Originally Posted by Rachel Anderson View Post
We have been looking and talking about getting a dog. Narrowed it down to the American female Doberman, watched lots of videos and love them. But..... I’m scared, after reading a few posts they seem rather expensive and prone to very expensive illness.
Maybe I read a couple of the downers posts but really has me spooked .
Can someone please give me the low down.
I have heard that rescues are ok are they?
Thank you from Ohio
First off, Rachel, welcome! I'm so glad you found us! Most of us are a great bunch of people. Many have a lot of years of experience in the breed and can be really helpful to you. It can be scary to try and decide about a new dog in general, and for sure a new breed! Take a moment to re-read brw1982's post right below yours - she is a great source of information. Very experienced, and what she says is spot-on. Dobermans can be expensive, and I also recommend pet insurance. But I really would for any dog. Dogs can make poor choices sometimes, that's for sure. Personally, my choice is to find a good, ethical breeder, because those dogs fit my needs. And what melbrod said is correct - any breeder that just hands you a dog without screening isn't a great breeder...both a rescue, and a breeder is going to screen you thoroughly. It's almost like a job interview, on both sides! Rescue can be a great option - I've had a wonderful rescue dog. There are good and bad rescues, just like there are good and bad breeders.
Rescues are cheaper but they tend to have very stringent rules making it difficult to adopt. You also may not be getting a puppy. Breeders are more expensive, but you normally don't have to jump through hoops to get a dog. Plus, you'll get a puppy and start from scratch.
I have a European Dobie and he was quite expensive. He is currently going through obedience training and we'll be starting Schutzhund in a few months.
Prepare to spend $$$$ on premium food. Grocery store food won't cut it. Don't listen to vets trying to sell you Science Diet and Royal Canin. Prepare to spend $$$$ on training, otherwise you'll have a 70+ lbs. unruly beast on your hands. There are also vet visits to get the shots, and, monthly flea, tick, and heartworm prevention meds. There are also toys, crates, beds, cleaning supplies, treats, training tools, and other essentials. I don't buy plush toys because they get destroyed within hours. Chew toys and ropes only. And I DEFINITELY don't buy toys that squeak.
Some people report diarrhea issues, so you may go through trial and error when choosing the right food.
If you decide to get the ears cropped, you'll have to be doing ear posting for months. So, you'll need to learn how to do it.
There's a lot of misinformation in this post, and I simply can't let it go. A good rescue DOES screen you thoroughly. They should. If your breeder didn't screen you...I'm afraid to say they were not what I would consider an ethical breeder. They SHOULD screen you. It's not "jumping through hoops." Good breeders want the best match for their puppies. You aren't buying a product. Good breeders have applications, they call references, they talk to you to make sure you are a good fit for their puppies. They match the right puppy to your lifestyle and needs. Additionally, in this country, good breeders crop their puppies ears. It's not a choice left up to the owner to decide.
I won't get too far into the food recommendations, but foods like Purina Proplan are extensively tested and many, many Doberman owners and breeders highly recommend them.
The requirements are minimum if any.
There is no easy way to know a person unless you come to their home and start opening cabinets and look at their credit history. A lot of people lie too.
If a breeder sees that you have the money and you are a decent person who knows what they are doing, there is no reason for them not to sell you a dog. My breeder did not get out her clip board and start asking me job interview questions. She saw that I was interested and asked relevant questions. That was enough. At the end, she sold me an excellent dog and I was happy to throw money at her.
This, again, is so incorrect. Income really isn't a determining factor for your suitability for a Doberman. It's whether you are able to meet the needs of the breed. Do you understand their temperament? Can you provide for their mental and physical needs? Of course a basic ability to cover costs are needed, but many people sacrifice a lot to provide for their dogs, and many wealthy people neglect their dogs needs. This is just ridiculous. "Throwing money" at a breeder is probably a great way to get a dog from someone that is out to simply make money, not to produce quality dogs. And, since you reference your "Euro" pup often, I'm even more skeptical of your breeder...I suspect they are someone breeding in the Euro fad.
A breeder can do whatever they want. But if a breeder makes it difficult to get a dog, as difficult as a rescue, I will go to another breeder. It is understandable if a breeder doesn't want to sell you a dog if you are Michael Vicks or you look like a shady character or you are obviously in a situation where you won't be able to care for a dog. But if a breeder refuses to sell a dog because you don't have a pre-approved size yard, there are plenty of other breeders who sell quality dogs and don't ask invasive questions that are, quite frankly, not any of their business.
There is a difference between due diligence and pretentiousness.
Having no patience to wait for a well-bred dog doesn't speak well of the buyer. Most good breeders would not sell to someone who isn't able to wait.
You show no understanding of what quality breeding is.