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post #26 of 28 (permalink) Old 12-15-2017, 10:09 PM
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Basic training is a necessity for any dog to fit well into any family, I think. It makes your life smoother; it’s good for kids to be involved in; it develops empathy with animals and teaches the value of patience.

Beyond that...I think it should be a matter of enjoyment for all participants. If YOU like training to a higher level, and you dog WANTS to please and is not nervous or unsettled in new surroundings or around lots of other dogs, go for it. It will take time...but if it’s fun time (there can be bad days, of course--dogs are only human), everyone benefits.



About paying for training....sometimes that IS just a line they feed you in order to get as much money from you as they can. But it takes money to be able to offer facilities, knowledge, AND time to folks. That is worth paying for and trainers have to live too. There is nothing wrong with paying someone IF you feel you and/or your dog are learning from being exposed to what the trainer has to offer.

Believe in what your gut tells you. If you sense that the guy is unethical in his money demands or what he recommends for your training, even if all you can pick up on is a subtle sense that something is wrong, believe in yourself. Don’t let him pull rank on you and tell you are too inexperienced to understand, and that he knows better because he is the almighty god of dog-training.

If you get a bad feeling about how he wants you to handle your dog, ask questions. Ask your trainer why he wants you to train a certain way--but be aware that a con man can glibly justify anything and that it is easy to be swept away by fancy sounding speech. There are lots of experienced people here that you can check your impressions with to decide whether his advice is healthy for you and your dog, and what kind of training might be detrimental to your relationship and could play havoc with your dog’s mental stability.

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He asked if we would like to try doing obedience competitions in the future, because he would gladly use Alfred. But.... he said that requires advanced classes that we would have to pay him for. Do you guys think this is all a sales pitch? Or should we try it out? It would be neat to have something I could get my son(soon to be born) into when he is around 5.

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If you want to do competitive obedience, I have four words for you: Fenzi Dog Sports Academy. Seriously, if you want a bargain on training with world class instructors (we’re talking multiple OTCH, UDX, and other high level titles in other organizations), you can’t beat FDSA. I linked one of the classes earlier.


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A clarification of what I said in my previous post:
"Beyond that...I think it should be a matter of enjoyment for all participants. If YOU like training to a higher level, and you dog WANTS to please and is not nervous or unsettled in new surroundings or around lots of other dogs, go for it."

When I spoke of your dog not being nervous or unsettled around new things, I was referring to his behavior in competitive obedience which might show that he is not really enjoying that kind of work. But if your dog seems to be nervy in his normal environment, you do need to do additional work with him to help him feel more relaxed in his ordinary life.

Another benefit that I should have mentioned of some kind of additional work with him--obedience, scent work, dock diving, whatever--is to help keep his mind occupied. Mental work uses energy just like physical exercise does--and the chance to expand his horizons and use his noggin will lead to a more balanced and stable dog who probably won’t be bouncing off the walls in frustration because he has more energy than he can manage.

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