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How many use outdoor runs for their dobermans?

I'm curious if any of you use outdoor runs for your dobermans. If you are away for a long day. If I get a pup soon. I still have about 3 weeks of school left ( I'm a teacher) before I can be home all the time to train the pup. so I wanted to know how many people use out door runs for their pups or dogs. I have two 6x 6 x 12ft runs.

They were custom made so no one can get in to them without knowing how to open the gates correct. I could use one for the pup when need be. Just wanted to know if anyone else had done that.

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IMO it would be better to work with the breeder and wait to pick up the pup when you're not in school. An 8+ hour day really is too much for a brand new pup to be in a run. They'll get bored and need the stimulation. If you could have someone come over and spend time playing with the pup that could work.
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Please be more specific about your situation. I have often had dog runs. It totally depends on how your are using it.

They can be a nice addition to a dog's environment. Or, a fenced in outdoor run can be the absolutely worst thing you can ever do to your dog. It is all how you are using it.

IMO... A young puppy should never be locked out of doors in a fenced in kennel.

So again, please explain, in detail, your plans.

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Better options are to use dog daycare, come home at lunch and walk the pupy, or hire a dog walker. Depending on where you are your puppy could be stolen, let loose, poisoned, etc. if left in an outdoor run with no one home.
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Lots of dogs get stolen every year from yards and runs. I would not chance it.

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Puppies should never ever be left unattended in a run.
Dobermans are prone to obstructions and left alone bad habits forming from boredom.


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just to clarify

I was going to try and use several different things. One the run is an option when I am away for a longer period. second, the use of the crate ( which we all have done with crate training). The dog walker is an option. Third my son would be coming home from college so he could help with the walking, play, etc...

Just wanted to see how many utilize runs in their homes with dogs. I have two runs, and I also have an underground electric fence I use with my other dog.
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I was going to try and use several different things. One the run is an option when I am away for a longer period. second, the use of the crate ( which we all have done with crate training). The dog walker is an option. Third my son would be coming home from college so he could help with the walking, play, etc...

Just wanted to see how many utilize runs in their homes with dogs. I have two runs, and I also have an underground electric fence I use with my other dog.
I'm surprised with some of your plans that a breeder is willing to put a puppy in your home.
efencing is a very poor choice. Many dogs learn to evade the shock by moving fast enough. It prevents a dog from returning home, it doesn't protect your dog from thieves or other animals.

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I'm surprised with some of your plans that a breeder is willing to put a puppy in your home.
efencing is a very poor choice. Many dogs learn to evade the shock by moving fast enough. It prevents a dog from returning home, it doesn't protect your dog from thieves or other animals.

Why are you getting a Doberman?

I DID NOT SAY I WAS GOING TO PUT A ELECTRIC COLLAR ON HER! I Stated what I had access too. That's why I came to this site to get ideas and suggestions. Not to be ridiculed by you! I've done lots of things with dogs in my time. I trained many for search and rescue, including disaster training. So, I don't need the negative vibes. suggestions yes. But you do not know me!
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I would hold off on getting your puppy for 3 weeks if that's the case. Puppies need to go potty every couple of hours and they need interaction and socialization. It would be unfair to rip it from it's mother and then keep it alone in a dog run or a crate for many hours. If waiting isn't an option I would see if you could pay a neighbor to let your puppy out and maybe interact with them for a while, or pay a dog walking service. Puppies are very needy and get in trouble if unsupervised.
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I would hold off on getting your puppy for 3 weeks if that's the case. Puppies need to go potty every couple of hours and they need interaction and socialization. It would be unfair to rip it from it's mother and then keep it alone in a dog run or a crate for many hours. If waiting isn't an option I would see if you could pay a neighbor to let your puppy out and maybe interact with them for a while, or pay a dog walking service. Puppies are very needy and get in trouble if unsupervised.

Thanks, the dog walking idea from everyone seems to be the best option right now. Plus, my son will be home within the time to do the "puppysitting" till I get home from work.

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A good rule of thumb for me has been "an hour for every month old they are". So two months old, should be able to hold potty breaks for 2 hours. This has just been my method on establishing how long they could be crated w/o a potty break. For some it might not work. I am so lucky as SE goes to work with me and usually just hangs out in my grooming room. If she is in the back kennels, I make sure she gets walked a couple times a day. She is old enough to really play hard with a flirt pole and that keeps me from feeling so guilty about her being in the kennels. In this area, I would not leave a dog outside. We have dogs turning up gone from their yards and I personally believe they are being stolen for bait dogs.

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Got a schedule worked out :)

I will get an extension on time from the breeder, and my son will be home to stay with the pup till i or my wife are home ( should be me first). so All good
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I will get an extension on time from the breeder, and my son will be home to stay with the pup till i or my wife are home ( should be me first). so All good
Perfect decision... You are my kind of owner! So nice that your breeder will work with you.

Have fun and please keep updating

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I will get an extension on time from the breeder, and my son will be home to stay with the pup till i or my wife are home ( should be me first). so All good
Good for you. Glad to hear it! And remember, when you bring that pup home be sure and post LOTS of pictures.
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Don,

I saw you made another post looking for breeders. I don't know which breeder you've been in contact with but if it means waiting an extra few months so you can go with an even better breeder/litter that is something to consider. Hopefully whatever breeder you choose is doing extensive health testing and titling their dogs before breeding and then taking care of the ear crop for you. Good luck.
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I don't think anyone addressed it directly, but Dobermans have an extreme need to be with their humans and do very poorly when isolated for long periods of time. They are genetically hard wired to be WITH you and I do mean WITH you, as in glued to your armpit everywhere you go. This is one of the main reasons not to isolate a Dobetman puppy in an outside run as that can be strongly negative to the pup developing a balanced temperament.

Also, many have mentioned theft and it's true - the theft of purebred dogs/puppies is a huge problem in all areas of this country!

Hope you take your time to really research and find a reputable breeder!
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I don't think anyone addressed it directly, but Dobermans have an extreme need to be with their humans and do very poorly when isolated for long periods of time. They are genetically hard wired to be WITH you and I do mean WITH you, as in glued to your armpit everywhere you go. This is one of the main reasons not to isolate a Dobetman puppy in an outside run as that can be strongly negative to the pup developing a balanced temperament.

Also, many have mentioned theft and it's true - the theft of purebred dogs/puppies is a huge problem in all areas of this country!

Hope you take your time to really research and find a reputable breeder!
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