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Hello from QC, Canada

Hello everyone

I'm from southern Québec and I'm a young woman who has been passionate about animals for as long as I can remember. As far as domestic animals, horses and dogs are the ones I am most fond of (and thus have accumulated the most knowledge on over the years).

I own one dog, a gorgeous stag red Zwergpinscher who we found off the streets (and her back story remains mostly a mystery, the only thing I could tell was that she was very well bred and the vets all agreed she's a gorgeous specimen too). Her name is Vanya and she's been with me for 4 years now.
Though I love several different breeds of dogs, based on personality and looks, Dobes, like min pins, have been a very long time favourite of mine. I don't currently own one, but I am hoping to some day in the future when I'm ready! As of now I travel a lot so having a full sized dog is a no go. The little one is easier to pick up and go with.

Still, I am very curious and like to be well-informed and had decided to research breeders in my area. I didn't find many, at least one or two had now defunct websites or hadn't been updated in many years. But one of them caught my attention and after having read multiple threads on this forum, I had wondered what you would all think about them.

What led me here specifically was trying to find more info on Albino dobermans, which I first came across many years ago. I was very intrigued by the phenomenon (as I've been interested in colour genetics in horses for many years, as well as dogs, it was intellectual curiosity primarily. I also thought they looked lovely but I indeed had to wonder, was it ethical to breed them?) At the time I couldn't find any scientific literature on whether they were genetically albino, or they were "white" as some partisans and breeders seemed to claim. Or perhaps an other type of dilution/genetic mutation. Thanks to the threads on this forum, I believe I found my answers on the topic. White dobermans are in fact Albino, and it would be unethical to breed them on purpose.

As I believe I am still learning, I might be a more quiet member for a while, I'm more of a listener (or reader, in this case!) until I feel I have something of value to say/add. And I don't like forming opinions on anything without having a full picture!

Looking forward to meeting you all! (I'll be off to the breeder section, as I think that's where my question belongs)
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Welcome I do adore and love minpins as well as dobbies. Just wanted to say hi.!!


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Welcome from Alaska.

Stay away from making specially bred coloring or size animals profitable. They always come along with more than the usual health problems.

If you must have one and are prepared to do things like constantly put on sunscreen and sunglasses, are prepared for more frequent vet visits, etc, don't hesitate to adopt one in need of a home.
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Yes, albinos are unethical, and dilution within the breed is not favourable either, but are allowed in the AKC and CKC.

This is an awesome forum and a great way to get to know the breed inside and out. You may want to look into health problems with the breed, specifically DCM. This breed is not healthy, so a thorough education in reputable breeders, and a good savings account/insurance is preferable

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Thank you all! I am not actually interested in owning an albino dobe, though if it ever happened that I wanted to rescue one and I happened to have a good match with one, then I would take it on. I was mostly interested in the genetics aspect of it, I'm a bit of a nerd and like to read scientific literature about coat colours in dogs and horses.

I've definitely learned a lot so far reading on this forum, I was aware of about half the diseases that affect the breed, but discovered many more thanks to you guys. Gives one lots to think about, especially since my current breed has very little health issues and my specific dog is fit as a fiddle. Though, health issues not withstanding, maybe it is due to my French background but I was always raised with the ideal of purchasing a dog from a breeder with proven lines and more importantly, health tested dogs. (regardless of whether you want "just a pet" or more, you want your pet to come from healthy stock!) It's great to see this is the prevailing mentality on this board.
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