I was under the impression this was an introduction area.... I didn't introduce myself to get feedback or criticism from breeders. I mean that's great you guys are on here and all but that's not why I joined the board. And I am sure you guys are very proud of your programs and I am sure you produce great dogs. But I've seen first hand dog's that were donated do things in theatre that a "well breed puppy from a reputable breeder" would not.
And before you get upset.... I owe a GSD that was donated and wasn't even AKC registered a great deal of thanks for eating two out of the 6 rounds I got hit with in Iraq in 2004. That's a true story with pictures of us both in the medevac for any naysayers. So while I am convinced there are breeders with some very pretty and very friendly Dobermans.... I also think there's a ton of dog's that came from a pound that are still great.... great dog's. And just an FYI because I found your set up questions amusingly cute, I would never buy from a BYB that was raising dogs in a dirt clay hole next to a dog house nor would I buy them from a mill, that's just an assumption you made. You would have done better asking me what the breeders I have contacted offered me and what they wanted me to pay for these dogs. Then perhaps you might have agreed and said yeah your right...xxxxx is way to much to pay for a dog you don't ever plan to show.
I see absolutely no criticism what-so-ever in any of the posts here, except for yours.
It is not about show dogs. It IS about sound, healthy dogs be they pets, performance or show dogs. A show dog is simply a pet that goes to dog shows on the weekend.
Dobermans are riddled with a rather large variety of debilitating and even fatal health issues. Things like Dilated Cardio Myopathy (will kill approx 50% +/- of our Dobes), Wobblers, vWD, Liver and/or Kidney disease, Hypothyroidism and more and more often I am seeing young dogs, purchased from Joe Blow back yard breeder with Hip Dysplasia, when most *reputable* breeders have not seen HD in decades.
Testing the parents for these afflictions annually is the best chance you've got of getting a puppy that will live a long, healthy life. This isn't a guarantee, dogs are living beings and unfortunately no matter how carefully planned the breeding or the number of health tests, sometimes poop just happens. But, you will stack the odds in your favor by purchasing a well bred puppy from a reputable/ethical breeder.
If you don't want to pay the price for a well-bred puppy, that is fine. We are okay with that and encourage you to rescue. You will be getting the same dog you would get out of the newspaper or craigslist, from a byb or commercial breeder, at an even lower price. Of course, health, temperament, etc are a crap shoot with a rescue, but you are doing a great service by rescuing a dog and if you do run into health problems the dollars you will spend will be a bit easier to swallow as your purchase price (adoption fee) was nominal.
You were not being criticized, nor did you get feedback. What you got was good information that you should be armed with before you actually beat the street looking for a puppy.
Spend some time on this forum looking through the many posts about the countless Dobes that have had to be re-homed or euthanized due to temperament issues. While you are at it read through the health section and read about the health issues that countless owners have been faced with.
I welcome you to the forum and wish you the best of luck with your puppy search. I can only hope that you will learn from the information provided and thus be aware of the challenges you may face, regardless of where your eventual puppy comes from.
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