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Help learning about breeders (KS & MO area)

Trying to do research on my own but could use some assistance. Would appreciate any info on what breeders to avoid in the KS and Mo area. I am only looking for a family companion....temperment, health and training ability are things we are interested in. No interest in shows, competitions or breeding. I see the mention of "red flags" on this forum but don't know what they are. Should all dogs that cost under 2k and don't descend from distinguished champion bloodlines be avoided? If dog's parents are health tested, listed on, and all dogs preregistered with health that not enough? I just want to clarify what makes a breeder a bad breeder? Seems like one's person's "BYB" is another's respected breeder (assuming no bad reputation, overbreeding, etc). Is there some BBB site for breeders where people file complaints and perspective buyers can investigate? The more I research the more overwhelmed I feel.

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My personal belief is that all dogs should have health testing for vWD, both cardio genes, thyroid yearly, holter monitoring and echoing yearly and hips, and elbows done. I also like to see conformation because it's not a beauty title it's how well the dog is put together for functionality. Functionality on a working breed is important to me. I want my dogs running and healthy as long as they are alive. I also like to see them work in some manner whether it's OB, prey drive, protection sport... I also like that when these breeders breed it's to make the next BEST generation so they win, not to fill their pockets with money.

I understand thinking you might not want a dog that works or is in the show ring but my experience is that VERY few breeders who don't do this also don't do the amount of health testing that I think they should be doing. Also, show breeders tend to "expose" their puppies to stressors like car rides, people, dogs, places, different toys, crate training. My boy was nearly house trained when he showed up and had zero issues walking on a leash or crate training and his temperament was so solid due to exposures at young ages.

A good place to start is the dpca breeder referral website:

DPCA | The Doberman | Breeder Referral

You can also reach out to your local Doberman club, they usually know who has or will have puppies soon:

The DPCA | Chapter Clubs

Good luck!
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Promise/Olympia and old drum dobermans are who I would be talking to. Both are respected breeders and members here on DT.
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