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    Hey are you still doing French ring ? I did SCH before ... how would you compare the dob ability to do it ? harder I assume ?
    What are your dobie lines/breeder ?
    Would you say French ring may give a dog less ability to discern biting someone ? I felt like SCH was very good at training them to respond only to a command where it seems like ring is based on a dogs judgment on the situation which could be really good if ideal

    Sorry to keep PMing you
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