Thank you guys for the food chats! And thanks for the again reassurance. In regards to my pups loose yellow stool we too tried Focus PPP Sensitive Stomach on an extremely slow transition and his stomach got worse too! So many people rave about it I was sure he’d be good on it but as said every dobie is different 😢 we were looking into lamb based next but now I’m not sure! We were thinking about trying Victors grain-inclusive versions of food next but I don’t know which one. He’s also having anal gland issues because of his low quality food so I’m wondering if I need to find him a higher fiber food and Victor is less fiber.. we also have considered a Limited Ingredient diet to try and calm his tummy, has anyone had luck specifically with any LID? If so what brand?
Also in response to a previous comment luckily he is not a anxious chewer so he has not tried to pull the blanket through his crate. We actually have left a pillow in there for him he hasn’t tried to destroy or even chew at all, thankfully.
With the exception of a few kibble manufacturers I would be very reluctant to try any limited ingredient formula. I've looked at the formulas of these limited ingredient diets from many that are offered as the answer to suspected allergies because of their limited ingredients and have pretty consistently found that the ingredients are not really limited at all.
If you are going to try that I'd stick with foods manufactured by the bigger outfits who more often actually have feeding trials to make sure some of their offerings actually work. An awful lot of the smaller outfits rely on computer modeled foods which may or may not work.
Most of these diets are prescription. So the brands that have real limited ingredient formulas would generally be Hills/Science Diet, Royal Canin, and Purina. Iams/Eukanuba used to have a prescription line but recently sold it to Royal Canin who now carry the various prescription formulas formerly offered by Iams.
Sometimes what looks like a sensitive stomach turns out to be less of sensitive and more of just plain overfeeding--which is pretty easy to do with growing puppies because the males will often eat anything and as much as you stick in front of them and soft stools and diarrhea are often directly related to just plain too much food.
I've had Dobermans since 1959 and over time have fed mostly foods by the big name manufacturers. This started as a recommendation by my first vet and has worked pretty well for me all these years. Some of the foods I fed in the first 10 or 15 years have either vanished off the face of the earth or have become part of some larger manufacturer but the four I mention above are still around and it's generally because even the non-prescription formulas have worked for most dogs most of the time.
I think I've said elsewhere than the Purina Focus ProPlan foods have worked well for me and my fall back is the "Sensitive Skin and Stomach" (formerly and now subtitled Salmon and Rice) but I had one dog who didn't do well on it but ate the Chicken and Rice for about 8 years without problems.
I pass this along as a suggestion. Hills has a non-prescription food--called Sensitive Skin and Stomach--one of the people I work with has Bull Mastiff's and had endless problems with soft stools and diarrhea--she tried several different kibbles and the Hills rep was in one day when she was talking again to one of the vets about the problem and the rep asked if she'd tried the fairly new formula for skin and stomach. She hadn't but the rep gave her a big bag of it and and for the two dogs she had at that time it was like a magic bullet--in the first week of feeding that the dogs had firm, formed stools. This worked for her and have been recommended to several of the clinic clients and it seems to generally work well.
I had so many problems with lamb as a protein that after trying it three times from three different manufacturers with different carb's (the problem was the same--inside a month to 6 weeks of feeding anything with lamb their coat turned to crap--dry, itchy and dull and I couldn't keep weight on the Dobes--increasing the amount I was feeding led to soft stools and diarrhea) I have declined to try it again. And recently found several articles about lamb which kind of gave explanations about my problems with the lamb--it has to do with digestability. The articles I found rated various meat protein sources from least digestable to most digestable with lamb on the bottom and salmon on the top.
If there is a suspicion that your dogs problem might be an actual food allergy or sensitivity (actually pretty rare) several of the vet allergist/dermatologists that we talk to about such things have started using the fully hydrolized kibbles manufactured by Hills (ZD), Royal Canin (HP), or Purina (HA). These are all prescription foods and expensive. But they are all fully hydrolized which means the proteins (both animal and vegetable) so that the protein molecules which a long complex forms are broken into shorter link which the animals body doesn't recognize as an allergen.
These formula's have also been used successfully to feed puppies who sometimes have sensitivities that haven't been identified specifically and the hydolized formulas can be fed in lieu of conventional diets long enough to settle the reactions to ordinary food down long enough for a puppy's underdeveloped GI system to catch up and then they can be switched to ordinary foods.
Just some suggestion to discuss with your vet.
I learned far more than I ever wanted to know about "true" allergies from a cat--he was a clinic rescue (if you work for a vet clinic you often find yourself with the dregs that no one wants). He was a perfectly ordinary cat until he was about 10 months when he started having diarrhea and frequent vomiting--we switched him to ID--and it worked for several months and the diarrhea and vomiting started again. That time we switched him to Hill ZD--(and that's when we eventually found out that while the dog formula is fully hydrolized in the kibble the cat was not--the canned food was but of course the cat was one of those that doesn't like canned food. Ultimately we found Royal Canin's HP and once he was on that all of the puking and diarrhea stopped--and you always knew when he had found something to eat that wasn't his hydrolized food--because it caused practically instant diarrhea and vomiting. Shortly after that Purina came out with HA--and he's lived on that and the Royal Canin for the last 15 years (he's now 17 and doing well).
In the last six month before we figured out what the problem was and how to treat it he went from a 12 pound cat (not so very big) to a 6 pound cat who looked like he was made of sticks. He was starving because he wasn't utilizing any of the regular foods.
And it's been said, on other discussions about feeding that to some degree it's always a matter for trying thing until you find something that works. This is often frustrating but all I have to do is think about my roommates Beagle who had horrible skin problems until I asked a Beagle breeder at a dog show what he fed--he told me and I swear if you read the label it looked more like floor sweepings than dog food --very low % of both fat and protein. But all the skin issues went away...
Good luck with figuring out what will work for your boy.