Join Date: Apr 2009
Dogs Name: Richter; Sypha; RIP Shanoa & Simon
Titles: Richter: CAA L1V NW1 L1I L1E L1C NW2 L2V ACT1 RATI WAC; Sypha: NW1 NW2 L1C L1V L1E RATI SOG WAC
Dogs Age: d.o.b. 7/13/2012; d.o.b. 12/6/2015
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I've been trying to think about how to answer your question thoughtfully.
What I want to address first and foremost is that being on the same page about training, for the most part, is pretty important. I think it would be really helpful for you both to meet with a really qualified trainer. A GOOD trainer that is well-versed in all types of training is not going to advocate turning an e-collar to the highest setting and correcting a puppy for behavior that has not been solidly trained. I think it would be super helpful for you both to sit down and have the trainer explain what reasonable expectations are for behavior in a pup at this stage of life (adolescence), what tools (like e-collars) can and can't achieve, and, most importantly, what kind of relationship you want to build with your dog.
I'm not against e-collars. They can be used correctly, but like any tool, they can damage your relationship with your dog. I want my dogs to see me as a leader, but what I consider leadership is clearly showing them my expectations and making it very easy for them to understand what those are, and making it fun and happy to meet my expectations. It's like having a good boss at a job, right? If your boss explains exactly what they expect you to do, lays it out really clearly in easy to understand steps, and they rewards you with a great paycheck, you're really happy to work there, right? And, let's say, after you work there for a while and you really, really understand your job, you make a big mistake. The best boss would give you the most gentle "correction" possible, right? Just enough to remind you to do your job the way you know how to do it. You don't need to be punched in the face so hard you fall down, you just need to be reminded enough to get back on track.
To me...an e-collar needs to be used with finesse. I never want to lose the trust of my dogs. The behaviors you describe are normal behaviors from an adolescent that simply hasn't been trained not to do them. Receiving a high level correction for them may cause fallout - a dog that shuts down, is fearful, anxious. He may associate the correction with something else in the environment.
Honestly, in your situation, I would stop using an e-collar at all, unless you can work with a good trainer and get on the same page. I worry about the potential for harm to your dog.
Richter & Sypha
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