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So as a follow-up to my previous post---I think right now, I'd just assume that she doesn't understand what you'd like her to do. It's also possible that she just may not be able to meet your demands right now, that she isn't totally sure of her relationship with you, and doesn't have enough of an attachment to you yet to really be trying to please you. And apparently she's learned previously that a particular behavior (flop and lie there) "works". "Works" to defuse a situation she may not be comfortable with, and/or to help her avoid a demand being made of her.
Either way, dealing with her will take some time, and some confidence and relationship building, and probably some breaking of old habits. Keep your tone with her happy, upbeat, inviting...no corrections at this point.
You *might* have some success if you just sort of "assume" that she will follow you....go to her (don't just call from across the yard), invite her along, turn your back, move away from her, keep inviting her with your excited voice, food, whatever rings her bell and see if she'll follow you. It's possible you're putting a little too much direct pressure on her and triggering a response you don't want. Above all, you don't want to use force, or drag her up and around by the collar.
There are a couple of tricks that I've used with a dog who is purposely ignoring me whom I NEED to get to come to me on an emergency basis.
1. Call them and run away from them.
2. In her case, get down at her level and bounce around to get her to move.
3. Pretend....bend over and look at something interesting on the ground. Pick it up and exaggeratedly pretend to eat it.
4. Lie down on the ground; her curiosity may get her to come investigate.
You'd only want to try these a couple of times, but you *might* be able to use tricks like these to break the ice and help her find out that there is something better that she can do instead of just limply lying there. And whenever a dog is moving toward you at all, even if they've been running away or ignoring you for 10 minutes, ALWAYS praise them as they come toward you. And definitely until you have a proven track record to her of being trustworthy, and fun to be with, never call her to come to you when you need to correct her or trade a fun activity for something unpleasant.
A personal story that might illustrate what I am trying to say:
We have a cattle dog we adopted as a 2 year old somewhat recently. He came to us with a severe mouthing problem (grab hands and crunch, not viciously, just OW!!.)
As time went on, it became obvious that the times when he was likely to fall apart and start frantically mouthing were, one, when he was really overexcited and had lost all ability to control himself, but even more when he didn't quite understand what we wanted him to do, if something was uncomfortable or was something that he was uncertain about, basically at times where his trust in us was lacking; we were putting too much pressure on him and he was unwilling or afraid.
It didn't look that way on the surface...he just looked like he had been allowed to play too roughly and because he is a mix of breeds that you can expect to be tough and mouthy, we sorta just thought he had been allowed to get away with stuff and get his kicks by being bossy and rough.
But instead, it seems that he had learned that if he was uncomfortable and too much was being demanded of him, mouthing was a way he could get away with not having to deal with it.
But I wouldn't call that stubborn, even though it has been quite hard to correct his behavior and is definitely a work in progress. I WOULD call it the behavior of a dog who has learned no other way to respond to what is being asked of him. Stubborn in the sense of purposely trying to manipulate isn't quite what is going on; they're doing what they have learned works for them. You just need to find a way to teach that there is something better to do that will be more comfortable and rewarding than what they've been doing; for her, something to replace that roll over and flop routine.
It's going to take time, positive working with her, appropriate rewards. As you get to know each other better, as you've built a relationship to the point where she really does want to please you and be with you, then you can work a little bit on "Come means come" But I'm thinking that it is too soon for you to start working on that.
Last edited by melbrod; 03-28-2019 at 12:06 AM.