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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 05-19-2018, 05:16 PM Thread Starter
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Goodbye Zeus! :(

(no, this totally isn't a permanent goodbye!)

My buddy boy was dropped off to boarding school today! We signed up Zeus for a two week board and train. We pick him up again on June 2nd (right when summer break begins, woohoo!) and begin training towards earning his AKC Canine Good Citizen. I was hesitant to do a board and train at first. My thought was "He's my dog, I'll do the training!", but in reality, for these next two weeks before school is out, Zeus either could be home in his kennel as usual while we're at work not learning anything until we come home and work with him, or he could be with his trainer all day, learning the entire day and socializing with people and dogs. Plus, we'll be in charge of his training when he comes home, and it's perfect timing for me because during summer break, I'll be home with him all day and will be able to work with him and take him to daytime classes as often as possible!

Anyway. I'm just posting here because y'all have been with me through my journey with Zeus since day 1! Here are pics of us in the car before heading out to boarding school! Gonna miss by Dobiepup.



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Gamer ------------------------- DON'T EVERY - EVER - EVER - START A POST LIKE THAT ! When I seen good by Zeus - My heart sank ! I thought oh chit - Wonder what had happened !

I'm SO glad it was NOT what I thought ! Damnit girl - don't do that to a old guy ! : )))

btw Zeus is on good looking boy !

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Gamer ------------------------- DON'T EVERY - EVER - EVER - START A POST LIKE THAT ! When I seen good by Zeus - My heart sank ! I thought oh chit - Wonder what had happened !

I'm SO glad it was NOT what I thought ! Damnit girl - don't do that to a old guy ! : )))

btw Zeus is on good looking boy !

...Ken

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I had the same feeling....

I hope you made absolutely certain that the trainer uses good, positive-based training methods. I went to a class taught by a person who also does board and train. She collar checked, rolled, and then pinned the board and train dog she was using as her class demo dog because he got up from a down. If she was capable of doing that in a Competition Novice class setting, I shudder to think of what she did when nobody was there.
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.........while we're at work not learning anything.......
Rather bold to admit that.......Just because it's the end of the school year doesn't mean you can tune out early.



(That is how I read it at first.....then I realized you were talking about Zeus in a crate )


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Gamer ------------------------- DON'T EVERY - EVER - EVER - START A POST LIKE THAT !
I concur completely!!


You've got a mean streak in you.... LOL
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Agree with Rosemary...there are very few board and trains I would trust. Lots of horror stories out there.

You might pop in unexpectedly in a day or two and see what the training conditions are.


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Gamer - Here's my thoughts - But First ! A Story !!!! lol

Mr. Business was a total hand full ! I had , had surgery on a elbow - then harvest came in - Wife was trying her best with the little feller ! This was not her first Rodeo -- Anyway - after harvest - I'm still banged up and call a local trainer - she came highly recommended - after meeting with her - she really wanted to board him for a 2 week OB class with her - I will admit - I thought about it : )) But only for a second - Here's the deal - the best way to train and gain your dogs trust is with us working with him - sure - it's work - but I would never want to have somebody do what I should be doing - I found it very rewarding + it was great fun with me and my son : ) I then put him threw another class this winter - Now that was great - the bug has really bit me to do more training !

One last thing - yes it would be nice to just leave your poor Zeus with somebody he don't know - and hopefully they will train him well - BUT then when your walking along one day and somebody tells you how good Zeus is trained - then what ? You had no part in it - Nothing will take the place of you - personally working with your dog ! nothing ! I find it relaxing !

Well What ever you decide- it's your call - but remember what Meadowcat and Rosie said

Good luck !

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@ECIN I didn't leave Zeus with someone he doesn't know. He knows the trainer because we worked with her during his puppy classes, and I specifically asked for her when we went back to sign him up for further training. Actually, when we went back in April to sign up for further classes, we didn't go with any intention of boarding him. We actually met with the same trainer to talk about his progress since STAR puppy, what we're looking to achieve for him as he grows, and what our expectations were with training. Boarding was brought up during this consultation as it's a service that they offer but don't force, and as I said in my initial post, I was hesitant about it at first for the same "my dog, my training" reason you mentioned. My husband and I discussed it for about a week before we decided what we thought would be best for him.

Like you, I also want to be able to claim that his good behavior and awesome reaction to commands is my doing, and I believe that that will be true. I highly doubt that he'll come back in 14 days as a perfectly trained 7 month old puppy with us doing none of the gruntwork whatsoever. That's not my expectation. When he's returned to us, his training is in our hands, and I am and have been excited to do so through private lessons and group classes. How the boarding was explained to us was that when we get him back, during our first few private lessons with her, we'll learn how to better communicate with Zeus so that he understands what we want him to do. She said that training the dogs is easy, it's the humans that tend to make things difficult! She does believe in positive reinforcement training, which is why we chose this particular training facility for our journey of creating a good citizen out of our boy.

I may be a new doberman owner, but I'm a person with common sense who keeps my dog's best interests in mind when I make decisions about his health or training, which I hoped though my course here at DT would be known by those who've frequented my past posts. Of course I did research before I gave Zeus to her. I read reviews, reached out to former clients to ask of their experiences with boarding their dog, watched how she interacts with dogs she's boarding whenever I visited the facility, and visited the home where he would be staying when he isn't in the training facility with her during the work day.

I hope I don't sound overly defensive, though I want to make sure that anyone reading this isn't assuming that I've dumped my pup off with some stranger at random and am kicking up my feet waiting for him to come back as a flawless doberman.
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Gamer -- I am pretty sure that everybody that replied to you was just covering the bases - Idea's for you to think about - that's it - I had a great time working with our little beast ! lol

I have read your posts and enjoy doing that

You were not being defensive at to me - you just filled in the blanks that we did or may not have known !

Well Got to get - Indy cars are on ABC !

As always - best of luck

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Gamer.....hoss went to a board and train.
two week program.
maybe similar to yours
just short of the two weeks the owners return for a few lessons before they take their dog home.
What I learned was ....dog manners.....it alls boils down to our daily discipline.
Your lucky his ears are standing nicely.
I was still posting when hoss went to camp......so Hoss went to the boss’es house each night.lol. He lucked out....
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