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He Has 17,700 Bottles Of Hand Sanitizer And Nowhere To Sell Them



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"Now, while millions of people across the country search in vain for hand sanitizer to protect themselves from the spread of the coronavirus, Mr. Colvin is sitting on 17,700 bottles of the stuff with little idea where to sell them.

“It’s been a huge amount of whiplash,” he said. “From being in a situation where what I’ve got coming and going could potentially put my family in a really good place financially to ‘What the heck am I going to do with all of this?’”
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I honestly have zero sympathy for him.

His "business" is just profiteering, which I personally find gross.
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"Now, while millions of people across the country search in vain for hand sanitizer to protect themselves from the spread of the coronavirus, Mr. Colvin is sitting on 17,700 bottles of the stuff with little idea where to sell them.

“It’s been a huge amount of whiplash,” he said. “From being in a situation where what I’ve got coming and going could potentially put my family in a really good place financially to ‘What the heck am I going to do with all of this?’”
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I honestly have zero sympathy for him.

His "business" is just profiteering, which I personally find gross.
I just wonder how many others our out there like him ? Hope they have to eat it
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I said yesterday that Oregon had just declared a state of emergency--don't know how I actually missed it but it seems that Oregon has actually be sort of ahead of the curve and declared a state of emergency on Tuesday.

The school closure went from starting next Monday to starting yesterday (Friday) and continue to at least the end of the month.

There are endless other closures that have been announced and the no gathering edict is either 200 or 250 people (that seems to depend on who you are hearing it from.

But if anything really broke my heart about all of this they announced the closure of the public libraries until further notice. Minimal staff will provide YFI--which can be accessed in the library parking lots. But mannnn--the Multnomah County library system which is a very good one was left to the City of Portland by one of the old families of Portland who had started the libraries here as a private system. It has never been closed--for anything.

And on a stranger note--the thing that mystified me was that in Safeway and in Winco--both big supermarkets--one of the things that was notably nearly empty was salad stuff--lettuce, and all of the pickaged salad things--now there isn't any real way to preserve that stuff. Meat, I can understand--at least you can freeze most of it--but lettuce?

Most of what I picked up was the kind of thing I make other stuff out of--I was picking up a couple of cans of green enchilada sauce in the Mexican food section a couple of days ago and a woman came and stared at me and asked me why I was buying that.

I told her I make chili verde with it--she wanted to know if it was hard to make?

I've been making the stuff for years and the original recipe I had was from Grandma' Castillo (my brake man's grandmother)--since that time it's become a mixture of her recipe (which was in Spanish) and a recipe on the back of a can of green enchilada sauce and something I found in a "Mexican Recipes" cook book. Something that Sunset Magazine once printed. But it does call for some specific things and I serve it over rice.

It's not very hard to make but it's nice if you've ever eaten it so you can tell if it tastes like chili verde is supposed to taste.

I agree--I think the food donations at Thanksgiving and Christmas will be large and varied.

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"Now, while millions of people across the country search in vain for hand sanitizer to protect themselves from the spread of the coronavirus, Mr. Colvin is sitting on 17,700 bottles of the stuff with little idea where to sell them.

“It’s been a huge amount of whiplash,” he said. “From being in a situation where what I’ve got coming and going could potentially put my family in a really good place financially to ‘What the heck am I going to do with all of this?’”
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I honestly have zero sympathy for him.

His "business" is just profiteering, which I personally find gross.
I'm with B...it's 100% price gouging and taking advantage of people in a terrible situation. He's contributed to the shortage of needed supplies in a crisis situation. He was purposely trying to make profit off of a medical emergency. I find it despicable.

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I said yesterday that Oregon had just declared a state of emergency--don't know how I actually missed it but it seems that Oregon has actually be sort of ahead of the curve and declared a state of emergency on Tuesday.

The school closure went from starting next Monday to starting yesterday (Friday) and continue to at least the end of the month.

There are endless other closures that have been announced and the no gathering edict is either 200 or 250 people (that seems to depend on who you are hearing it from.

But if anything really broke my heart about all of this they announced the closure of the public libraries until further notice. Minimal staff will provide YFI--which can be accessed in the library parking lots. But mannnn--the Multnomah County library system which is a very good one was left to the City of Portland by one of the old families of Portland who had started the libraries here as a private system. It has never been closed--for anything.

And on a stranger note--the thing that mystified me was that in Safeway and in Winco--both big supermarkets--one of the things that was notably nearly empty was salad stuff--lettuce, and all of the pickaged salad things--now there isn't any real way to preserve that stuff. Meat, I can understand--at least you can freeze most of it--but lettuce?

Most of what I picked up was the kind of thing I make other stuff out of--I was picking up a couple of cans of green enchilada sauce in the Mexican food section a couple of days ago and a woman came and stared at me and asked me why I was buying that.

I told her I make chili verde with it--she wanted to know if it was hard to make?

I've been making the stuff for years and the original recipe I had was from Grandma' Castillo (my brake man's grandmother)--since that time it's become a mixture of her recipe (which was in Spanish) and a recipe on the back of a can of green enchilada sauce and something I found in a "Mexican Recipes" cook book. Something that Sunset Magazine once printed. But it does call for some specific things and I serve it over rice.

It's not very hard to make but it's nice if you've ever eaten it so you can tell if it tastes like chili verde is supposed to taste.

I agree--I think the food donations at Thanksgiving and Christmas will be large and varied.

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I'm sad to see libraries close, too. Of course I want librarians protected. The GOOD thing is so many library functions are available online these days. But libraries seem to do "dual duty" as places for the homeless, places for job hunting, places for so many things beyond simply books. They really are true cornerstones for democracy and the public good. It's hard to see them closed.

In the food arena, fresh food can so easily be cooked into meals that are frozen or canned, if you have the skill. I very much doubt we'll get to a place where there would be no electricity, so it's not like you can't "stock up" that way. We, for example, have two chest freezers full of meat. That's a big part of our "provisions", should we need them.

Last weekend I made a sweet potato "chili" - one of my favorite meals. Could easily be frozen if needed. I also love a simple slow cooked black beans and rice meal. Again, could freeze if needed. Sometimes you need to think beyond canned...
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I make a lot of stuff in big batches and freeze half of it--I don't rely on the markets having all of the makings of green enchilada sauce though--the tomatillo's are seasonal around Portland. Most of what my freezer holds is meat too.

I can create a lot of stuff that is main meal regulars but I still can't figure out the lettuce--I don't know of anything I make that calls for cooked lettuce (cooked cabbage yes but not romaine, red leaf lettuce, butter lettuce, boston lettuce--so that part of the sell out still mystifies me.)

Hmmmm----sweet potato chili? I love sweet potatoes in almost any form and I think I need that recipe too MeadowCat--I know I don't have any kind of a dish like that.

I've got a great recipe for black beans (which I always have around because I mostly make black bean chili)--that I make for bring a dish get togethers during the summer.

Oaxacan Baked Beans--it too is one of those really simple recipes and people have told me how wonderful it is an it always kind of amazes me because it's so simply (and I guess be cause I make it fairly frequently.

2 pounds of black or pinto beans
12 cups of water
1 onion chopped (recipe says 1 medium onion but I think I usually use a large one)
2 cloves of garlic chopped)
1-1/2 teaspoons of whole cumin seed (sub ground cumin)
About 2 pounds of lean ham hocks. Sub ham shanks or bone from a ham shank
Original recipe calls for cooking it in a large covered cassarole @ 275 degrees for 10 hours. I've always made it in crock pot and I've got a couple of cookbooks for dried beans cooked in a crockpot and I use the time and heat from them.

I also remove the meat from whatever I used in the recipe--toss the bones and chop the meat into 1/2" dice and dump it back into the beans. This is one you can cook one day and cool and store overnight refrigerated--reheat in the next morning--I think it's better the second day than the first.

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My mom used to make a good Boston Baked Beans kind of thing--I wish I had gotten the recipe from her.

Heck, I probably even have it somewhere--when we cleaned out her house years ago I ended up with all of her recipe boxes--lots and lots of them. Suburban wife of a professional corporation person, active in the church too--I don't remember her attending that many gatherings, but she sure collected recipes as if she were going to have to provide the hors d'oeuvres (that one I had to look up) and pot lucks for hundreds of people at one time. I think she had the recipes organized?? but apparently by her very own special system, which is opaque to me. I wouldn't even know where to begin looking for that recipe.

Anyway, the beans were the baked bean type (which are what? Pintos??)--sweetish, but it also had green peppers and all kinds of stuff in it so it wasn't too sweet and had a little spicy bite to it too.

(Just looked up the bean variety--navy beans)
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Bug, this is one I also like to double in a large slow cooker:

2 sweet potatoes, peeled and in 2-inch chunks
1 yellow onion, diced
2 garlic cloves, minced
1 (15-ounce) can red kidney beans, drained and rinsed (or 2/3 cup
dried beans, soaked overnight and boiled briskly for 10 minutes
because of the freaky red bean toxin thing)
1 red bell pepper, seeded and chopped
1 (14.5-ounce) can tomatoes (whatever's on sale, mine had oregano and
roasted garlic)
1 tablespoon chili powder
1 teaspoon smoked paprika
1 teaspoon chipotle chili powder
1/2 teaspoon kosher salt
1 cup water
1/2 cup orange juice (not pictured. If you don't have any in the
house, use water)
The Directions.

Use a 5-6 quart slow cooker. This is enough food to feed a family of 4
regular-sized, or 6 smallish people. Peel and chunk the sweet potato
and add to the pot. Add diced onion. Follow with the red bell pepper,
can of tomatoes, the beans, garlic, and seasonings. Pour in OJ and
water. Cover and cook on low for 6-8 hours, or until the onion is
translucent and the sweet potato is fork-tender (if you want the sweet
potato to get really squishy and disappear when stirred, cook longer).

This is another good sweet potato recipe - has just a touch of spice to it. It's from the Moosewood Simple Suppers cookbook, they call it Navajo stew.

Inspired by a Southwestern Native American dish, this is a sunny, colorful stew of roasted vegetables in a hot and smoky mole-type sauce.
Recipe Type: Main Dish, Stew

Total time: 55 mins
Serves: 4
Ingredients

2 medium sweet potatoes
2 red or green bell peppers
1 large onion
4 garlic cloves, minced
2 tablespoons vegetable oil
1 tablespoon ground cumin
1 teaspoon salt
1/2 teaspoon black pepper
1 15-ounce can of tomatoes
1 tablespoon canned chipotles in adobo sauce
2 cup chopped fresh cilantro
1 15-ounce can of butter beans or black beans, drained
flatbread (tortillas, lavash, or pita)
plain yogurt or sour cream (optional)

Instructions

Preheat the oven to 450°. Lightly oil a baking sheet.
Peel the sweet potatoes and cut into 1-inch cubes.
Stem and seed the peppers and cut
into 1-inch pieces.
Peel the onion and cut it stem end to root end into thin wedges.
In a bowl, toss the vegetables with the garlic, oil, cumin, salt, and pepper.
Spread on the prepared baking sheet and roast in the oven for about 10 minutes.
Stir and continue to roast for another 10 to 15 minutes, until the sweet potatoes are tender but not mushy.
While the vegetables roast, puree the tomatoes, chipotles, and cilantro in a blender until
smooth. Set aside.
When the vegetables are tender, put them into a 2- to 3-quart baking
dish, stir in the tomato-cilantro sauce and the beans, and return to the oven until hot,
about 10 minutes.
A few minutes before serving, warm the bread in the oven.
Serve the stew in bowls topped with yogurt or sour cream ( if desired), with warm flatbread on the side.
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NACSW has cancelled the trail in Mebane NC. Trail date was April 4-5th. They have also cancelled Nose Work camp in Cleveland GA. You can get a refund or reschedule at another camp which is at a later date.
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About the lettuce, maybe they were just working on building up their vitamins/immune systems so they would be ready for that time when all they had to eat for days and days on end was Spam.

Reminds me of a book I read--Lucifer's Hammer. Larry Niven and.....someone....ah...Jerry Pournelle.

It was an end of the world thing where a comet hits the Earth--I enjoyed it quite a bit. Anyway, the wife of one of the main characters, who was presented as clueless and fluffy-brained, decided at the last minute to go out and stock up on food so they would be prepared for the world-wide disaster that would be sure to follow the "Hammer blow". (They didn't know it was actually going to hit--the first part of the book spends its time building the suspense of waiting and watching the thing come closer and closer from way out near Jupiter or somewhere, and seeing the chances of the thing actually hitting the Earth getting higher and higher)

Anyway, she bought all kinds of expensive frozen foods and came home very proud of herself because she had gotten it all at such good prices "I don't know why anyone wasn't buying--it is perfectly good and usually so hard to get."

Good book though--I recommend it if that is your sort of thing.
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Went to HD Saturday, crowded but plenty of cleaning supplies in stock. Picked up some house brand blue shop towels on sale and pool chlorine for summer. Can always use good stock of shop towels & plan on making homemade disinfectant wipes using a bleach solution and empty wipe containers. Here's a well informed video talking about home disinfecting solutions, using CDC references:



HEB grocery chain here in SATX (largest) are changing operating hours to 8-8PM to allow restocking overnight. DW said fresh meats, milk & eggs (why?) only things she saw depleted on shelves. I can see this hoarding resulting in a big wastage of food when it all spoils, if not frozen.

If I was the US Govt, which I'm not, I would give every family in US a tax break/ subsidy for purchasing 30 day dried food/emergency supply kits for every home (and subsequent replenishment). This would help eliminate panic buying in event of the next crisis.

Also, although I'm a supporter of free speech and freedom of the press, there should be coordination of public info dissemination, in real national crisis events, to prevent hype and panic we see now with Covid-19.
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Doesn't Move? Smell It.
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Yesterday - I came up with a plan ! I took Mr. Business with me to Wal-Mart - pulled up the front door - got out and got Mr. B out then told him to go get dad some TP ! He nodded and took off running threw the door a hundred miles any hour - he was only gone for a few minutes and here he came back out ! My bad here - I didn't tell him to get a whole pack ! And now back home - he won't give it to me

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As I walk Hoss around our neighborhood and chat with neighbors everyone proclaims they are not hoarding.
They are taking what they need and leaving the rest .
So who’s hoarding ...as everyone says they are not guilty of this...

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Our home update: We are doing well and we are prepared. New England/ New York has lots of cases popping up. I have been working from home for about 2 years now and hubby is retired. Social isolation is our normal mode, we are just not very social to begin with.

Dogs are all okay. My worry is making sure that there continues to be supply of all of Jossie's meds (she 11, has copper storage and DCM). We will deal with it as best we can.

Sending lots of positive vibes to everyone here - stay healthy and safe.
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About the lettuce, maybe they were just working on building up their vitamins/immune systems so they would be ready for that time when all they had to eat for days and days on end was Spam.

Reminds me of a book I read--Lucifer's Hammer. Larry Niven and.....someone....ah...Jerry Pournelle.

It was an end of the world thing where a comet hits the Earth--I enjoyed it quite a bit. Anyway, the wife of one of the main characters, who was presented as clueless and fluffy-brained, decided at the last minute to go out and stock up on food so they would be prepared for the world-wide disaster that would be sure to follow the "Hammer blow". (They didn't know it was actually going to hit--the first part of the book spends its time building the suspense of waiting and watching the thing come closer and closer from way out near Jupiter or somewhere, and seeing the chances of the thing actually hitting the Earth getting higher and higher)

Anyway, she bought all kinds of expensive frozen foods and came home very proud of herself because she had gotten it all at such good prices "I don't know why anyone wasn't buying--it is perfectly good and usually so hard to get."

Good book though--I recommend it if that is your sort of thing.
Yeah, I like Larry Niven's stuff and in general I like end of the world as we know it stories. Niven and Pournelle have been successful collaborators on several stories.

Hey Mel,

Was it AJ who was reading his way through all of the Robin Hobb trilogies and finally got to the last of them and was looking for something else?

Wondered if he'd read any of Nancy Kress's series. Of CJ Cherryh who has a bunch of stories set in the same general universe. Hmmm I thought of several more last night but of course since I'm trying to get out of here to go feed kitties etc at the clinic I can't remember most of them.

And it's very cold, somewhat windy and clear as a bell--no snow this morning but they keep saying maybe more today or tomorrow.

Later all...

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PS I confess I was stocking up on tortilla chips and avocados--choosing them from not ripe at all to fairly ripe.

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It doesn't seem to matter what range of ripeness I pick my avocados in (there's got to be a better way to write that)--they all seem to get ripe the same day.
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Yesterday - I came up with a plan ! I took Mr. Business with me to Wal-Mart - pulled up the front door - got out and got Mr. B out then told him to go get dad some TP ! He nodded and took off running threw the door a hundred miles any hour - he was only gone for a few minutes and here he came back out ! My bad here - I didn't tell him to get a whole pack ! And now back home - he won't give it to me

LOL

And people say dobermans have lost their edge when it comes to their working ability.
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100 days of enrichment for your dog: https://aniedireland.wordpress.com/2...xHcc6qW2mmx5mw

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Coronavirus COVID-19 Global Cases by the Center for Systems Science and Engineering (CSSE) at Johns Hopkins University (JHU)

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God, I can't imagine. I hope he takes care of himself, emotionally, through all of this.
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That's a really neat website.

For those of you who are stupid like I am--because it actually took me a while to figure out how to get to the page which gives the links for each of the 100 days, so I could pick and choose which one I wanted to look at next (the above is just day 1 out of the hundred)-- here is the home page:

https://aniedireland.wordpress.com/100daysofenrichment/

Enjoy.

And I'm not interested in hearing how many of you navigated MC's link with ease to find the rest...some of us oldies are just a little computer challenged, OK??

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Sorry - that's a much better link than I posted, Mel!

We're now at confirmed community transmission here in MN. And up to 35 cases.

My agility classes have been cancelled, but my trainer is offering private lessons, so I'm doing those instead. Waiting to hear on Nosework classes.
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An actual example is worth a thousand links--looking at the page you posted, MC, shows the quality of their ideas and gives the reader (me, in this case) a good reason to go look at the rest of their work. If you had simply posted the home page, I might not have bothered to look at any of the links they give. And would have missed out on some interesting stuff.

So you done good.
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An actual example is worth a thousand links--looking at the page you posted, MC, shows the quality of their ideas and gives the reader (me, in this case) a good reason to go look at the rest of their work. If you had simply posted the home page, I might not have bothered to look at any of the links they give. And would have missed out on some interesting stuff.

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