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I had my 13 week old puppies ears trimmed yesterday. When I picked him up this morning I expected his ears to at least be bandaged. But they were not. She is in a cone to prevent her from getting to her ears, which i fully expected. BUT her ears are still bleeding alittle and she is shaking her head and crying. Should the vet have bandaged the ears? I have an appointment to go back in 2 weeks to have the looked at and I assume set. I was so taken aback when I show what they looked like and the fact that they were just open wounds that I didnt ask all the questions I should have. I will call back in the morning and get clarification, but at this point I am not even sure I dont want to take her to another vet and see what they think. But if this is normal I can relax I guess.
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Who did her ears? Good cropping vets will rarely crop ears after the 12 week mark, because there is less chance of them standing. This is why responsible breeders will take care of having the puppy cropped before they leave.

The lack of bandaging can be normal, many vets prefer to let the ears breathe that way. Was she given antibiotics and/or pain killers?

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She turned 13 weeks today and had the surgery yesterday. We had the appointment last week, but I broke my foot on the way to the vet and had to reschedule. I was given meds, but I do not think they were pain killers, just the antibiotics.
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No, the ears shouldn't be bandaged. A lot of vets will tape them to a paper or plastic drinking cup on top of the head. Some vets tape or glue them over the top of the head. Some vets just let them hang. Any of those methods are fine. Bandaging/taping over freshly cropped ears can cause an infection. This thread has good information on caring for freshly cropped ears. https://www.dobermantalk.com/ear-cro...-s-don-ts.html

It's possible that the Elizabethan collar is irritating the cut edges. You might want to take it off if it is.

Did the vet give you any pills to give her for pain, or give her a long acting pain shot?

After the stitches are out (usually 10 to 14 days after surgery) and the edges are completely healed, you can start posting them. There is a really good tutorial here on DT, on how to post. https://www.dobermantalk.com/ear-cro...acker-rod.html


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She turned 13 weeks today and had the surgery yesterday. We had scheduled the surgery for last Wednesday, but I broke my foot on the way to the vet so we had to reschedule for yesterday. I was sent home with meds, but I think they are antibiotics and not pain killers. They are only to be given once a day. I did my research I thought. This vet can recommended as a general vet and had been doing this for years and years. But to be honest it is very difficult to find a vet in my area that will actually trim the ears, so I didn't have much to choose from. There was another vet about an hour from me that also did the trimming, and I was thinking if this wasnt normal I would make the drive to have her looked at. I have one pic but I am unsure how to upload. I joined this group right before making this post.
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pictures would be helpful - use a site like flickr to upload pictures.
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Thank you, your response makes me feel much better. To be honest I didnt want to do the trimming in the 1st place, it was my husbands wishes. I am having a hard time not being upset with him seeing the pain she is in. She has a very large cone on her head. Am I understand you to say you think it may be ok to take that off as long as I am watching her?
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Yup...go ahead and take the elizabethan cone off. She should do fine; usually without the thing bothering them they quit fussing with their ears. And if they do once or twice, they find out it hurts a bit and stop scratching. After a day or two, they hardly seem to even notice they've got cropped ears at all.

So if she does well without the cone when you're around (use your judgement), but she's likely not to need it at all.

If she keeps messing with it and fussing without the cone on, you'll want to look for signs of infection--stinky, oozy, swollen--of course right now after a crop, you'll see some of that (though the stink of a fresh crop is different from the stink of infection....). But keep an eye on her and you guys should be fine.

You don't need to put anything on her ears either (antibiotic ointment for example.) Actually it is better if her scabbing is kept open to the air and dry, and you don't pick at them by pulling off the scabs or stretching her ears, for example.

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Izzy Trimming by Angie Lopez, on Flickr

Thank you so much for the flickr instructions.
BTW, I have a Giant Schnauzer, but I knew this forum would have the best information on ear trimming.
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I'm so glad you told me that was a schnauzer--I was sorta like, freaking out
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Thank you so much for the flickr instructions.
BTW, I have a Giant Schnauzer, but I knew this forum would have the best information on ear trimming.
Giant Schnauzer (GS), congrats, now I'm un-confused. At first, I was like....well this is different.

I don't know the appropriate age to crop GS's ears. The breeder I got my Dobie from cropped his ears at 7 week, which is the normal age. His ears were not exactly bandaged, but tips taped on top of each other on top of his head to keep them in place. I have no idea how this works for a GS.

Ears bleeding may create a potential risk for infection since it's an open wound. My breeder told me to put neosporin or triple antibiotic ointment if the puppy accident scratched the skin off.
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I think that GS have a much shorter and broader crop than most Dobermans, but I really don't have any hard information on them. I would say that leaving them loose to heal is fine - there are more issues with covering them. Posting should be fairly quick and I'm guessing that they stand pretty easy compared to a show cropped Doberman. Did the vet give you any anti-itch powder? I've never had a puppy need a cone - and I do whole litters at a time. The vet that did my litters always cut back their nails so that even if they tried to itch, there wasn't enough nail to do any damage. I also had some anti itch powder that I'd sprinkle on the ear edge for the first few days - it really helped..

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All of the vets who cropped my dogs ears over the years wanted you to leave the ears alone--whether they were glued on a cup, taped over the top of the head of allowed to simply hang loose. No neosporin, or anything else put on the newly formed scabs and bandaging newly cropped ears is a terrible idea--there are vets who do this but it is a great way to get infections started.

I'll say ditto to what Melbrod already said--leave the scabs that form strictly alone--don't pick at them they will fall off by themselves when the raw flesh underneath is totally healed.

Giant Schnauzers are typically cropped at pretty much the same age that Dobes are--preferred is right around 8 weeks but anything up to 12 weeks is generally OK and because the Schnauzer crops are shorter and broader you can probably expect to get standing ears up sooner.

The only thing I've generally seen with Schnauzers is that those that I've seen newly cropped have usually had the ear shaved to keep the surgical area cleaner.

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