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Is a Doberman a good pick for a first dog? Is a male or the female better for a a first Doberman?
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Is a Doberman a good pick for a first dog? Is a male or the female better for a a first Doberman?

Welcome John to DT .

Questions !

1. How old are you ?

2. Where do you live ? Apartment or house ? and do you have a fenced in area ?

3. What about time with this pup ?

4. Work ? School ?

5. Finances ?

6. Kids ? no kids ?

7. How is your patience ?

8. And I'm forgetting lots of other questions -

The reason I ask all these questions are

Younger people tend to be on the go all the time - I know I was - These dogs not only need attention but they demand it

Most breeders would require a fenced in area for there Dobers

These pup's need training in OB - not there they are unruly - and Socialization is very important .

Dogs are not cheap - Food , good food is not cheap + pet insurance + Vet trips + training costs

I have read on here with problems with kids sometimes - not much but it has happened - Most Dobers will be very protective of the kids

Patience ? OH yeah - they will try you sometimes - lol They are very , very smart ! And they will find there own way to entertain themselves ! I personally know that is true

To me - They are the greatest dog on this planet - they are loyal beyond loyal - There smart - You will be there world and that's it .

Like I said - they are and can be a challenge - for your first ever pup - dog , I think it can be done - My best advice would to get on here more , read and read and read treads on here about health , training , and just general topics - this will give you some knowledge of what it may be like in having a Doberman in your life - they are not a breed for everybody - Best to find that up front instead of just getting one and then finding out - this will not work .

I think your on the right track - coming here first - There is lots of knowledge on this site , as you will find out and they will add lots of great advice for you .

Keep asking questions !

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Do your research on heart related health problems within this breed .......some may develop clinical problems and many do not .....but you have to be prepared financially in the event problems ...that is why so many get health insurance.
As far as it it a good choice .........it all depends on your lifestyle........if you are willing to come to terms with having a newborn in your house it might be a good fit.........but if you want a dog and still want to be away from your dog after work and wine, dine, date etc. then maybe not a good choice ......here is what I experienced with my Dobe puppy:

Brought Hoss home at 16 weeks
Began going outside to take care of business every couple hours (night and day) broke up my sleep - exhausting for sure.
Need to play ALOT during waking hours
Need mental games that wear out their brains to make then sleepy
Being proactive as if you have a young child in the home - anything dangerous put away at all times
Pup needs a daily schedule that does not change to frequently (just like mom do with newborns)
Training and socializing is important at all stages.......this takes time daily ( few minutes several times a day) no lengthy sessions
Chewing .....due to teething etc they need to chew something that is acceptable .......Kong filled with treats etc.
Ear posting - if you plan to get the ears cropped this is additional work and takes a month or turn to learn how to do with ease.
Sharkey teeth- those teeth are like razor blades ......very easy to get some shredded arms during play ........I used long sleeve shirts after I got some deep cuts ...not a thing for children to do ........older teenagers yes....young kids no.
I will tell you at 8 months I was just ready to cry I was so tired.........again just like I felt with a newborn baby ...its exhausting ..housework and break of my normal sleep patterns.
By 1 year I slept more but Hoss was quite the snarky teenager .....Hoss began getting into stuff .....he became sassy when corrected ....but we just kept correcting verbally. Same thing like a smart azz teenager .....just a dog though.
That went on until about 18 months......then something wonderful starting happening .....all the training ......all of the repetition of corrections .....Hoss began settling down.....
He is approaching 4 years and we are there ........so great dogs and they are very smart.....so just like any kid they will take advantage of you once they figure out the buttons to push.
So this is my experience and or course all dogs are different........but Hoss required use of a crate this first year to keep him from developing bad habits while we were away at work 8-5
After 1 year and no incidents ......crate went into bedroom with door opened...........after few months room and hallway..........then another room .....then another ...etc........
Once he was at 2 years he had most of the house to roam in
So is this breed a good choice maybe .........it all depends on you and how much time you are willing to give.
Here is the deal with this breed ...they do require alot of attention to detail the first couple of years to (just like kids)
Another issue is the other Humans that your dog will spend time with .........they are the worst rule breakers and can really confuse your dog......for instance you train dog to not jump up.......then someone visiting you insists its OK for your dog to jump up on them ..........so everyone must honor your rules or problems can occur that cause you alot of work. Then there is the visitor that insists it's OK to feed scraps from their plate when you have them over for a meal knowing that you forbid that activity. These are just examples..... but watch your humans .......they cause alot of unnecessary work if you allow it.
So.....consistancy with your rules and a daily routine ... ....along with repetition ....repetition...repetition .........when it comes to training.
They are awesome dogs.....Hoss is my second doberman ........lov'em so much!

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A doberman was my first dog.

I...don't recommend it, unless you have a partner with dog experience. I wouldn't have survived the first year without help from my husband.
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For the average would-be pet home, no.

However, if someone does their research and has support from at least one experienced, reputable person in the breed, you can certainly pull it off successfully.

I know several people whose first dog was a Doberman and they're amazing dog owners and breed devotees. But those people are not typical pet homes. These are people who (1) purchased a Dobe from a "good" breeder and/or got involved with a local club or rescue (so they did have support and mentorship) and (2) got really involved with their Dobe from the start. Meaning, they didn't flounder around, half-assing anything in pet classes. They took seriously the need to learn the breed and train their dog(s).

So, I would say it depends. If you are 100% committed to trying to do things right (with the understanding that, of course, there will be a learning curve), you can probably do it with a fair amount of effort and some guidance.

On the other hand, if you're drawn to the breed because they're beautiful and you imagine that because they're smart they'll be super easy to train and you picture a dog that will listen to you easily once they've learned a command...don't do it. Because that is a fantasy. hahaha Or at least don't do it without reaching out to breed enthusiasts in your area so you can (hopefully) meet more dogs and learn more about what you can expect from a Doberman, and what to realistically expect from yourself to meet the breed's needs.

As for the male or female question...I would recommend you decide what you're looking for in a Dobe and then identify some breeders to talk to about it. If you're a good match for the breed, then they should be able to match the "right fit" Dobe with you, male or female.
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and you picture a dog that will listen to you easily once they've learned a command...don't do it


If I had a dollar for every time ours forgot there names - I'd be a rich man You all know what I'm talking about
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Even better are the times when you KNOW they have heard you because they turn and *look at you* but then think about what you've said for a second, and decide, "Nah. Not right now..."

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Even better are the times when you KNOW they have heard you because they turn and *look at you* but then think about what you've said for a second, and decide, "Nah. Not right now..."

LOL - That's the one I'm talking about 82
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It truly depends on soooo many factors! This is not an easy breed and takes a lot of work on the owners part.... not to mention that it is an expensive breed. I would not say that it is a good breed for a first time owner unless said owner is pretty extraordinary in their knowledge and dedication to doing it right.

That said, Dobermans are pretty extraordinary themselves. The old saying is that they are the cadillac of dogs..... with the advent of more foreign cars, I'd say that that saying needs updating - haha. Not sure what I'd equate them to now. Maybe a Jaguar F-Type (Powerful, agile and utterly distinctive).... or since they are a german breed, they could be described as some sort of Mercedes like a AMG GT
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