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Well, I am needing to get a new computer. I have no clue what I am looking for. I need to replace my refurb Dell desktop. I can just replace the tower, right? It's starting to sound like a plane getting ready to take off. What brand do I go for? I am not a gamer, but like to play some old CD games that I have.

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Yea, just the tower needs to be replaced. If you're not a hard-core gamer and just want to play the old games(I'm going to assume no MMORPGs, just 5+ year old games) then you really don't need something high end. I tend to get my computers refurbished from Newegg.com and get the maximum warranty on them. They've all lasted(on my 9th year with my laptop, 3rd year with my desktop) and if anything breaks during the warranty period, you call and they send someone to your home to fix it.

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I want to play things like Myst and Riven again. I never beat those games. LOL Get it, now?

Is there a special brand of computer that you are fond of?
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they're all pretty much the same if you aren't buying a super high end machine. keep in mind, the lower end you go, the more frequently you'll be looking at replacement.

i would research processors, and buy the computer with the highest end processor you can afford. second most important is RAM - max that out. onboard video (in other words, NOT a separate video card) is perfectly fine for your needs, but make sure it has the right input to work with your monitor. check the plug color - if it's blue, you need VGA. if white, you need DVI.

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Thanks all. I am so not a computer dweeb. You are talking Greek to me.

Is Lenovo a good word to be using? Started doing a little shopping and that is what came up.
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Denny...

In our world, nobody would touch a Dell. Or any PC for that matter. mac and mac only.

I currently use a mac air OS 10.9.5. Some what out dated but perfectly adequate for my needs.

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Thanks all. I am so not a computer dweeb. You are talking Greek to me.

Is Lenovo a good word to be using? Started doing a little shopping and that is what came up.
they're fine machines.

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In our world, nobody would touch a Dell. Or any PC for that matter. mac and mac only.

I currently use a mac air OS 10.9.5. Some what out dated but perfectly adequate for my needs.

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sadly, i agree - Dell's on a downswing right now for consumer-grade computing. they'll be back on an upswing soon, most likely. but i wouldn't buy anything lower than their Enterprise mid-grade workstations and i wouldn't go near their portables for the mo'.

i abhor Macs...mostly because i support them and the majority of users tend to be just computer savvy enough to be dangerous. kernel panics are a part of my life i'd like to leave behind.

i will say this, though: if you're used to using a Windows computer, and you're considering switching to a Mac, now's the time - Windows has changed DRASTICALLY since the last purchase you made, Stryker.
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1. Check for viruses. They could just be making your computer run hot, which could turn on all the fans which cool the thing.

2. It could just be that one of your fans is going bad. They can make an awful racket. They could be just dusty--you can blow out dust around the vents of the computer with a compressed air can (bought at local computer store.) Or if you’re brave, you can unplug the computer, put it on your kitchen table or someplace where you don’t have carpet (watch for static electricity), take off the tower cover (just a few screws), don’t touch ANYTHING, and just blow all around everything with your compressed air.

If you’re happy with the computer otherwise, you *could* go to a fix-it place. If they can tell what’s wrong with your computer immediately, sometimes they will diagnose it for free. Of course, they may have to do a full blown diagnostic to tell you which part it is--and it might not be the fans after all, so depending, the fix needed might be cheap or expensive. They’ll give you an estimate and then you have to make a decision from there. A diagnostic I think is usually somewhere around $75. Some places will defer that charge if you then go ahead and ask them to fix it.

Kinda like getting a car fixed though--they could find something big is the problem which may cost a lot to fix and then you’ll have to pay for the diagnostic even if you decide it’s too expensive to fix.

It may be a cheaper way to go than buying a whole new computer, though.



Not sure Macs have as many games available for game players. A lot of games seem to be written just for PCs. However, old games may not run on newer computers. My kids tell me that Good ol’ Games is a great place to buy old games. They are edited to work on new computers.
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i abhor Macs...mostly because i support them and the majority of users tend to be just computer savvy enough to be dangerous. kernel panics are a part of my life i'd like to leave behind.

i will say this, though: if you're used to using a Windows computer, and you're considering switching to a Mac, now's the time - Windows has changed DRASTICALLY since the last purchase you made, Stryker.
I had Windows 3.1, 95, and XP. Then I switched to a Mac and have been running OS X for 9 years. I can count on 1 hand the number of OS crashes I've had in OS X. I used to get blue screens of death about once a week.

To each his/her own but I find Mac so much easier to use. Then again, I've been a unix guy forever so they fact that I can get a bash shell on Mac and SSH to any of the computers in my house makes me very comfortable.
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Not sure Macs have as many games available for game players. A lot of games seem to be written just for PCs. However, old games may not run on newer computers. My kids tell me that Good ol’ Games is a great place to buy old games. They are edited to work on new computers.
Macs do not have as many games as PCs and the games they do have typically don't run as fast on equivalent hardware because game writers know how to optimize every last ounce of performance out of PC operating systems and video drivers. Still, lately, the performance has been pretty close between OS X and Windows on equivalent games. Still, for games I'd get a PC hands down. If you just want to browse, send email, and do basic spreadsheet/word processor stuff I prefer a Mac.
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I had Windows 3.1, 95, and XP. Then I switched to a Mac and have been running OS X for 9 years. I can count on 1 hand the number of OS crashes I've had in OS X. I used to get blue screens of death about once a week.

To each his/her own but I find Mac so much easier to use. Then again, I've been a unix guy forever so they fact that I can get a bash shell on Mac and SSH to any of the computers in my house makes me very comfortable.
ah, you're the Mac user i *like* to work with. we never got calls from your sort. i worked inbound calls for Apple when OS X first came out.

it was hell. it was absolute and utter hell.

i still support them, though in a different setting, and i pretty much have to turn all admin privs off so people don't break them.

they're very easy to use. they're Fisher Price computers.

there are a couple of things i like about them, but for my purposes (supporting a primarily Windows environment) they're overly expensive toys.

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We started using Mac when Apple had less than 3% of the market share due to poor marketing decisions by Steve Jobs and hence, no support from the software industry. Decades ago. The reason was our industry is on the creative end of the spectrum and years ago OS was the only system, that supported many creative software programs such as Photoshop.

Today, for me it is a no brainer An average person (like myself) can do pretty much anything immediately on a Mac. All Apple products interface seamlessly. iPhones, iMacs, iPads, etc.... wirelessly. And all info is shared, stored or backed up automatically. Updates are free easy and automatic.

Our first Apple computer was an Apple Macintosh Quadra 630, purchased about 1994. It still works!

I still use my old MacBook (2009?) occasionally, when I need a cd drive. Still works flawlessly.

Unlike you, I am truly a "tech-idiot". So, The Apple Genius Store makes it so easy when I have any issue. Any issue is usually solved in minutes.

Yeah... Apple products are expensive. Still... Literally, nobody I know in our industry or related businesses uses anything other than a Mac.
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I agree with melbrod.

Especially if you like your ol' computer.

It would not hurt to bring it in and see if it can be fixed.
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yep, like i said, they're Fisher-Price PCs. they're capable enough, but i can spend the same amount of money carefully and get a more powerful PC. it won't be as pretty, but at least i'm not stuck in Apple's walled garden.

it's GREAT that it works for you! but you'll never catch me buying an Apple product.

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yup, Apple does do a great job of training their in-store techs. they did a mediocre job with the training materials 12 or so years ago, but i think it would have been better had they not outsourced to contractors.

i will say this: working for them taught me how to search a knowledge base quickly and correctly. my Google-fu benefited from that training.

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ah, you're the Mac user i *like* to work with. we never got calls from your sort.

Why would I want to call support when I do my own research, learn, and figure out the problem myself?

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i worked inbound calls for Apple when OS X first came out.

it was hell. it was absolute and utter hell.
Yeah, I can imagine that wouldn't be an overly enjoyable job. My tech-unsavvy family has been known to call Apple Support when I'm unavailable. I do feel sorry for whoever has to handle those calls.
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Oh Geez! LOL I don't think I want to switch to Mac. Too much change for me! I think I WILL start with a diagnostic. But I still want a new one.

I feel like I am at work. I would normally invite an IT person from work to come fix it, and bribe that person with food, alcohol and gas money for the road trip home, but nobody wants to come out as far as I live. Woe is me.

I will unplug my computer tonight and go see the tech dude close to work, tomorrow. He charges $75 just to diagnose.

Be talking to you guys in about a week, I guess. After I get the old or new computer reconnected! LMAO I am so going to have withdrawals this weekend. I am so dumb when it comes to computers. Give me a lawn mower! I understand those!

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Thank God I have a backup laptop. Don't know if I remember how to use it, though. My boyfriend does a good job doing his time sheet on it. He is way more dumb about computers than myself so hopefully I will be able to make the transition.

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they're all pretty much the same if you aren't buying a super high end machine. keep in mind, the lower end you go, the more frequently you'll be looking at replacement.

i would research processors, and buy the computer with the highest end processor you can afford. second most important is RAM - max that out. onboard video (in other words, NOT a separate video card) is perfectly fine for your needs, but make sure it has the right input to work with your monitor. check the plug color - if it's blue, you need VGA. if white, you need DVI.
Are you telling me that I have to pay attention to the colors of the connections that I pull out? What? LOL

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LOL! hey, it's easier than demanding you know what they're called. VGA is pretty much out the door as far as new tech is concerned. if your monitor is VGA only and you can't find a computer with a VGA port, we'll have to find you an adapter.

i'm also giving you the acronyms you'll need to know if you have to hit the store between disconnecting and setting up a new machine, just in case you can't get things working to come back and ask.

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the truly unsavvy aren't the problem. it's the people who know less than they think they do. those are the ones who are excellent at hosing their computers...and it's always the IT person's fault.

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LOL!

I didn't have the heart to pull the plug last night. I am afraid if I do, it will take me two years to get reconnected.

Okay here is the scoop on my puter and monitor. You guys do the math with the info I give you. I am going to Best Buy first thing tomorrow, after I tear up my tiny computer space. If you all only knew how small my house was, you would be sending me get well or condolence cards. LOL

Computer is a refurb from Sprint, OPTIPLEX GX620, Dell.

Monitor is a hand me down from my brother, Hanns.G, HW191D.

I have HushesNet for my internet provider and running on a Netgear thingy.

I want to play my old CD games, possibly more if they are not threatening games that involve other real people. I like to visit Pogo, as well. I want you all to see Princess Lily and pictures of the goofball, Axel. I pay bills and E-mail. I have a lot of music loaded on this computer and want to transfer it to the new one (which opens up an entire new can of worms for me). This is getting sad. What do you think I am going to spend? I need to know. I am trying to buy a house.

I'm skeered!

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falnfenix,

Baltimore is not that far away. Want to come shopping with me tomorrow?

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Okay, I did it. Came home with a Lenovo. Now, who wants to come over and set it up for me? That person will also have to transfer files for me. I've got beer, lasagna and $20 to offer in return.

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