The Politics Thread... - Page 264 - Doberman Forum : Doberman Breed Dog Forums
General Off Topic Chat This forum is to be used to post about Non Doberman topics. Do you want to post about your spouse, car, job? Test your signature? Post here

 488Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #6576 of 6876 (permalink) Old 06-06-2017, 04:09 AM
Alpha
 
Zeblar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 974
Location: South West England
Dogs Name: Odin
Dogs Age: 18 Apr 2010
Gallery Pics: 0
Visit Zeblar's Gallery
Thanks: 4,413
Thanked 2,930 Times in 749 Posts
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by GRAYGHOST View Post
The armed British police did a quick response (8 minutes), and took out the terrorists, but it shows how helpless unarmed police and citizens are. No one could defend them selves, or anyone else, before the armed police arrived.


_________God made man, but Sam Colt made them equal.
Now I usually ignore a lot of your posts as they, to me personally, go against everything I think and kind of rub me up the wrong way but not wanting to cause arguments I keep my difference of opinion to myself.

However I can't let this one go. As a Nation we don't want guns, we don't need guns and are happy without guns. We don't have massacres by crazies in our country like you do because we don't have guns. Our Police do just fine without all of them being armed because we as a Nation aren't armed. Good grief. Do you honestly thing a 9mm pistol in my handbag make a blind bit of difference to a man driving at me in a vehicle? No because I would be getting out of the way of a 2 ton steal weapon. Would I brandish a 9mm pistol at a madman with a knife? No because I'd be running in the opposite direction.

We as civilians aren't trained to deal with that so why would us having a firearm make the blindest bit of difference? It wouldn't. End of.

Zeblar is offline  
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Zeblar For This Useful Post:
CRDobe (06-19-2017), eegreen (06-06-2017), Fitzmar Dobermans (06-06-2017), Ixi7311 (06-06-2017)
Advertisement
 
post #6577 of 6876 (permalink) Old 06-06-2017, 10:51 AM
Alpha
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,828
Location: Virginia
Dogs Name: Anne [Dobermann]
Titles: TV Watching Companion III, K9 Nosework Dog in training
Dogs Age: Anne-Born 7-26-08
Gallery Pics: 0
Visit GRAYGHOST's Gallery
Thanks: 12,725
Thanked 1,898 Times in 1,095 Posts
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeblar View Post
Now I usually ignore a lot of your posts as they, to me personally, go against everything I think and kind of rub me up the wrong way but not wanting to cause arguments I keep my difference of opinion to myself.

However I can't let this one go. As a Nation we don't want guns, we don't need guns and are happy without guns. We don't have massacres by crazies in our country like you do because we don't have guns. Our Police do just fine without all of them being armed because we as a Nation aren't armed. Good grief. Do you honestly thing a 9mm pistol in my handbag make a blind bit of difference to a man driving at me in a vehicle? No because I would be getting out of the way of a 2 ton steal weapon. Would I brandish a 9mm pistol at a madman with a knife? No because I'd be running in the opposite direction.

We as civilians aren't trained to deal with that so why would us having a firearm make the blindest bit of difference? It wouldn't. End of.
First let me say that Thank God that we got our independence from England and that we have a Constitution that protects our God given rights.

Armed citizens have stopped terrorists/killers as proven in America and Israel.

Our former Anglican Priest, at my church, was an armed officer (Sergeant) at Scotland Yard and had many boring assignments (his words) protecting Number 10 Downing Street. He was (is) very critical of British gun laws and said that British Bobbies wear stab resistant vests because they are so often attacked with knives. Father also did bomb disposal when the IRA was at war (so to speak) with England; he did not see the IRA have much of a problem getting firearms and bomb making material.

During WWII, and prior to our entry, America was supplying weapons to the 'unarmed Brits', there is a famous photograph of Winston Churchill holding a Thompson sub-machine gun that came from America. We were such terrible people that we helped to arm you, as well as supplying the great field commander General George Patton, and the commander of the D-Day invasion (General Eisenhower) and our young men (Army, Navy, Army AF) and women (nurses, WAVES, etc.) to defeat Germany. Yes, America is such a terrible bunch of gun loving people.


The people are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty.

_________Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, 1787
GRAYGHOST is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to GRAYGHOST For This Useful Post:
alan j. (06-06-2017)
post #6578 of 6876 (permalink) Old 06-06-2017, 12:59 PM
nutsaboutmydobes
 
JobeyV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,122
Location: England
Dogs Name: Trooper. (Eddie, Amber & Homer all RIP)
Titles: Trouble, sock thief, PITA
Dogs Age: 15-3-11 (Eddie 1999-2009, Amber 1997-2011, Homer 2005-2012)
Gallery Pics: 0
Visit JobeyV's Gallery
Thanks: 4,930
Thanked 4,317 Times in 1,637 Posts
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeblar View Post

However I can't let this one go. As a Nation we don't want guns, we don't need guns and are happy without guns. We don't have massacres by crazies in our country like you do because we don't have guns.
Speak for yourself, I'd be armed in a heartbeat if we were allowed to & yes, we have had gun massacres. Have you forgotten Hungerford or Dunblane?

JobeyV is offline  
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to JobeyV For This Useful Post:
4x4bike ped (06-06-2017), Beaumont67 (06-19-2017), GRAYGHOST (06-06-2017)
Advertisement
 
post #6579 of 6876 (permalink) Old 06-06-2017, 01:08 PM
nutsaboutmydobes
 
JobeyV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,122
Location: England
Dogs Name: Trooper. (Eddie, Amber & Homer all RIP)
Titles: Trouble, sock thief, PITA
Dogs Age: 15-3-11 (Eddie 1999-2009, Amber 1997-2011, Homer 2005-2012)
Gallery Pics: 0
Visit JobeyV's Gallery
Thanks: 4,930
Thanked 4,317 Times in 1,637 Posts
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by GRAYGHOST View Post
Father also did bomb disposal when the IRA was at war (so to speak) with England; he did not see the IRA have much of a problem getting firearms and bomb making material.
Not trying to pick an arguement here,

Where do you think a great deal of the financing for the IRA came from? I think you'll find it came from certain parts of the Irish/USA community.

I'm with you on arming our citizens though, a viewpoint that has changed over the years.
GRAYGHOST likes this.

JobeyV is offline  
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to JobeyV For This Useful Post:
4x4bike ped (06-06-2017), Beaumont67 (06-19-2017), GRAYGHOST (06-06-2017)
post #6580 of 6876 (permalink) Old 06-06-2017, 01:47 PM
Alpha
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,828
Location: Virginia
Dogs Name: Anne [Dobermann]
Titles: TV Watching Companion III, K9 Nosework Dog in training
Dogs Age: Anne-Born 7-26-08
Gallery Pics: 0
Visit GRAYGHOST's Gallery
Thanks: 12,725
Thanked 1,898 Times in 1,095 Posts
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by JobeyV View Post
Not trying to pick an arguement here,

Where do you think a great deal of the financing for the IRA came from? I think you'll find it came from certain parts of the Irish/USA community.

I'm with you on arming our citizens though, a viewpoint that has changed over the years.
JobeyV, I fully agree with you about the financing for the IRA. Much of it came from rich Irish-Americans; I do not think that I need to name one of the famous rich families. The resulting killings should be to their everlasting shame.

Last edited by GRAYGHOST; 06-06-2017 at 01:54 PM.
GRAYGHOST is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to GRAYGHOST For This Useful Post:
JobeyV (06-08-2017)
post #6581 of 6876 (permalink) Old 06-06-2017, 02:56 PM
Big Dog
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 96
Dogs Name: Tell us your dogs name

Gallery Pics: 0
Visit apollothedog's Gallery
Thanks: 8
Thanked 73 Times in 44 Posts
       
Honestly untrained civilians with guns shooting at rampaging knife attackers in a crowd sounds like it would just add to the number of injuries.

The best way to stop a knife attacker in a crowd is to have 3 or 4 people overpower him. Or have someone sucker punch him / smash him with a rock/brick etc in the back of the head while he's busy dealing with someone else. The worst thing to do is panic and run.

Didn't anyone learn the full nelson in high school wrestling? They should teach that right along with the heimlich maneuver and cpr.
apollothedog is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to apollothedog For This Useful Post:
Zeblar (06-07-2017)
post #6582 of 6876 (permalink) Old 06-06-2017, 04:27 PM
Alpha schmalpha
 
alan j.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 3,456
Location: Florida

Gallery Pics: 1
Visit alan j.'s Gallery
Thanks: 7,072
Thanked 9,489 Times in 2,815 Posts
Images: 1
                     
alan j. is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to alan j. For This Useful Post:
Cressrb (06-06-2017)
post #6583 of 6876 (permalink) Old 06-06-2017, 04:46 PM
Alpha
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,828
Location: Virginia
Dogs Name: Anne [Dobermann]
Titles: TV Watching Companion III, K9 Nosework Dog in training
Dogs Age: Anne-Born 7-26-08
Gallery Pics: 0
Visit GRAYGHOST's Gallery
Thanks: 12,725
Thanked 1,898 Times in 1,095 Posts
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by apollothedog View Post
Honestly untrained civilians with guns shooting at rampaging knife attackers in a crowd sounds like it would just add to the number of injuries.

The best way to stop a knife attacker in a crowd is to have 3 or 4 people overpower him. Or have someone sucker punch him / smash him with a rock/brick etc in the back of the head while he's busy dealing with someone else. The worst thing to do is panic and run.

Didn't anyone learn the full nelson in high school wrestling? They should teach that right along with the heimlich maneuver and cpr.

You would be surprised as to how much trigger time us 'untrained civilians' put in. Much more than many large city police officers who only qualify once a year. Both of my sons are deputies and we often shoot together. We are Americans from the South, and are from a gun culture. My sons have shot since they could hold a BB gun, and went on to real guns; I have shot since I was young; my uncle, back from WWII, taught me to shoot a 1911 .45 auto.; still my favorite type pistol for social purposes (self defense).

Big news, when shooting in self defense you know your target, and what is behind your target. You do not just dump a magazine load of rounds and hope you hit something. Owning a firearm, and using it, is a responsibility that we take very, very seriously.

I have known many police officers over the years, mostly K-9 handlers because of my great interest in police dog use. Ninety nine % of these officers were pro-gun. As one of my sons says: "I want armed citizens as I may need one to come to my aid".
GRAYGHOST is offline  
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to GRAYGHOST For This Useful Post:
4x4bike ped (06-06-2017), Cressrb (06-06-2017)
post #6584 of 6876 (permalink) Old 06-06-2017, 09:16 PM
Big Lil pup
 
4x4bike ped's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 5,795
Location: Portland, OR
Dogs Name: Foxfire's The Real McCoy (McCoy)
Titles: Pet of the Year
Dogs Age: DOB 9/12/14
Gallery Pics: 9
Visit 4x4bike ped's Gallery
Thanks: 15,185
Thanked 13,688 Times in 4,731 Posts
Images: 9
                     
I am a Life Member of the NRA. Although I have a Concealed Handgun License (as we call it in Oregon), I rarely carry concealed. I have perhaps, relied on my firearms less than 10 times to secure my safety and that of my family and friends. My home defense is pretty much "Bullet Proof" LOL. A 12 gauge 18" barreled shotgun with a 7 round magazine and a pistol grip.

The last time I had an attempted break in, it was by a tweaker who was out of his mind. McCoy alerted me and I was able to hold him at shotgun's length until the police arrived 30 minutes later and took him away. 30 minutes! So tell me. Without that line of self defense, can you imagine the other possible scenarios?

My son had a bb gun at 6 yo and was learning firearm safety and proficiency by 8. I bought him a gun safe at 20 and an NRA Life Membership at 21. His gun skills and safety are impeccable. Better than mine.

So.... As Charlton Heston said....... "from my cold dead hands." Yeah!
GRAYGHOST and Beaumont67 like this.
4x4bike ped is offline  
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to 4x4bike ped For This Useful Post:
Beaumont67 (06-09-2017), Cressrb (06-06-2017), GRAYGHOST (06-06-2017), sandy2233 (06-09-2017)
post #6585 of 6876 (permalink) Old 06-07-2017, 02:49 AM
Alpha
 
Zeblar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 974
Location: South West England
Dogs Name: Odin
Dogs Age: 18 Apr 2010
Gallery Pics: 0
Visit Zeblar's Gallery
Thanks: 4,413
Thanked 2,930 Times in 749 Posts
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by JobeyV View Post
Speak for yourself, I'd be armed in a heartbeat if we were allowed to & yes, we have had gun massacres. Have you forgotten Hungerford or Dunblane?
Those were 21 and 30 years ago so not even pertinent to what I've said really. Ok so being surrounded by the Army on a daily basis who train regularly to use their firearms I feel comfortable them being armed on the street but otherwise no because people would point and shoot thinking they are doing the right thing and probably shoot the wrong person and yet another innocent would be dead. I reiterate my point we do not need guns.

Zeblar is offline  
post #6586 of 6876 (permalink) Old 06-07-2017, 02:59 AM
Alpha
 
Zeblar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 974
Location: South West England
Dogs Name: Odin
Dogs Age: 18 Apr 2010
Gallery Pics: 0
Visit Zeblar's Gallery
Thanks: 4,413
Thanked 2,930 Times in 749 Posts
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by GRAYGHOST View Post
First let me say that Thank God that we got our independence from England and that we have a Constitution that protects our God given rights.

Armed citizens have stopped terrorists/killers as proven in America and Israel.

Our former Anglican Priest, at my church, was an armed officer (Sergeant) at Scotland Yard and had many boring assignments (his words) protecting Number 10 Downing Street. He was (is) very critical of British gun laws and said that British Bobbies wear stab resistant vests because they are so often attacked with knives. Father also did bomb disposal when the IRA was at war (so to speak) with England; he did not see the IRA have much of a problem getting firearms and bomb making material.

During WWII, and prior to our entry, America was supplying weapons to the 'unarmed Brits', there is a famous photograph of Winston Churchill holding a Thompson sub-machine gun that came from America. We were such terrible people that we helped to arm you, as well as supplying the great field commander General George Patton, and the commander of the D-Day invasion (General Eisenhower) and our young men (Army, Navy, Army AF) and women (nurses, WAVES, etc.) to defeat Germany. Yes, America is such a terrible bunch of gun loving people.


The people are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty.

_________Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, 1787
You know I seriously had to walk away from your response yesterday before I said something stupid.

How, honestly how, did you take from my post that I was bashing you as a people for being allowed to buy and carry weapons. I didn't so please dispense with the offence as that's an imagined slight on your behalf.

I'm not saying that armed people haven't stopped situations from escalating but honestly if you were to look at statistics I'd imagine that doesn't happen as often as people getting killed by guns. How many times recently have you been on here saying another Police/Law/State Trooper etc has been killed by being shot?

Well let me tell you the last Police Officers killed in the UK by being shot was back in 2012 so 5 years ago.

I'm not even going to bother responding to the WWII bit as that's history so irrelevant to our problems today. And as a footnote we wouldn't want arming from you now as our SA80 is a much better weapon, your military guys have even said so.


Last edited by Zeblar; 06-07-2017 at 03:07 AM.
Zeblar is offline  
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Zeblar For This Useful Post:
Dandobermanowner (06-08-2017), eegreen (06-07-2017)
post #6587 of 6876 (permalink) Old 06-07-2017, 10:10 AM
Alpha
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 237
Location: Hill Country in Texas
Dogs Name: Samuel Adams
Titles: My Heart
Dogs Age: Born 2-22-14
Gallery Pics: 0
Visit Shady's Gallery
Thanks: 15
Thanked 382 Times in 162 Posts
                     
At least on this side of the pond.

Taking guns from honest people will not have the slightest effect on criminals. With all the guns out there the bad guys have them and will always have them.
GRAYGHOST likes this.
Shady is offline  
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Shady For This Useful Post:
4x4bike ped (06-07-2017), Beaumont67 (06-08-2017), Cressrb (06-07-2017), GRAYGHOST (06-07-2017), melbrod (06-07-2017)
post #6588 of 6876 (permalink) Old 06-07-2017, 01:23 PM
Alpha
 
Dandobermanowner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 247
Location: UK
Dogs Name: Darcy, Oscar and Sirius (R.I.P)
Dogs Age: 22/12/2014 - 16/10/17
Gallery Pics: 2
Visit Dandobermanowner's Gallery
Thanks: 597
Thanked 259 Times in 144 Posts
Images: 2
                   
I believe guns have their place and armed police officers are necessary - times have changed. But For most police forces outside of the cities it's unnecessary, our locals for example have no need for them and don't want them.

In the attack on Saturday night, I don't think armed civilians would have helped. The van killed before anyone could react and the chaos and terror in the busy market was not just because they had knives - a Millwall FC fan held them off at a restaurant - but the fact that they were wearing fake explosive vests. I honestly think that in that situation, surrounded by such panic, only a specially trained individual could keep a level head and hit their target.

Upon saying all that, i wouldn't pass up the opportunity to shoot one of these fanatics myself.
Dandobermanowner is offline  
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Dandobermanowner For This Useful Post:
Cressrb (06-07-2017), JobeyV (06-08-2017)
post #6589 of 6876 (permalink) Old 06-07-2017, 04:37 PM
Alpha
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 237
Location: Hill Country in Texas
Dogs Name: Samuel Adams
Titles: My Heart
Dogs Age: Born 2-22-14
Gallery Pics: 0
Visit Shady's Gallery
Thanks: 15
Thanked 382 Times in 162 Posts
                     
The thing about having a gun is it give you options.

I agree with if you are not going to at least practice or be trained then you have no business having a gun outside of your residence . How often do you need to go shoot well as far as I am concerned enough that you can hit what you aim at. Its really not that hard after you figure it out and for some of us that have been doing it from pre teens its just second nature.

Is shooting a person as easy as shooting a target. I sure hope not. I have never shot anyone and really have no desire to. Could I shoot a person. I would like to think I could if I or family/close friends were in danger or a stranger was defiantly going to die.

With that said. If I was out and saw someone with a knife out yelling and screaming at a stranger. There is no way I would draw and get involved. I would call 911 and be a good witness. Now if the guy with the knife started stabbing and slashing I would draw and fire as long as it was safe to do so. If a group of people were behind the guy no I would not draw or fire.

If I was in a Mall and a active shooter in body armor and a rife opened fire would I draw my pistol and open up on him Not a chance in hell. As long as I had cover to get to that is where I am heading then drawing and staying behind cover. Now if I am behind cover and
the shooter comes into that area if I have no other options ya I am going to fire and hope for the best.

As selfish as it sounds Its not my job or responsibility to protect anyone or thing from harm and just because I carry does not make it my responsibility to take action to save some person that has chosen not to be able to defend themselves.

There are just to many what ifs to say what I or anyone would do in a active shooting. I just know I don't want to be the guy curled up in a ball with some sadist shooting me or standing me up and slicing my head off.
GRAYGHOST likes this.
Shady is offline  
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Shady For This Useful Post:
alan j. (06-07-2017), Beaumont67 (06-08-2017), GRAYGHOST (06-07-2017), melbrod (06-07-2017)
post #6590 of 6876 (permalink) Old 06-08-2017, 03:57 AM
Lil Pup
 
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 9
Location: UK Liverpool
Dogs Name: Odi

Gallery Pics: 0
Visit George_M's Gallery
Thanks: 0
Thanked 6 Times in 2 Posts
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeblar View Post
Now I usually ignore a lot of your posts as they, to me personally, go against everything I think and kind of rub me up the wrong way but not wanting to cause arguments I keep my difference of opinion to myself.

However I can't let this one go. As a Nation we don't want guns, we don't need guns and are happy without guns. We don't have massacres by crazies in our country like you do because we don't have guns. Our Police do just fine without all of them being armed because we as a Nation aren't armed. Good grief. Do you honestly thing a 9mm pistol in my handbag make a blind bit of difference to a man driving at me in a vehicle? No because I would be getting out of the way of a 2 ton steal weapon. Would I brandish a 9mm pistol at a madman with a knife? No because I'd be running in the opposite direction.

We as civilians aren't trained to deal with that so why would us having a firearm make the blindest bit of difference? It wouldn't. End of.
Please speak for yourself, your opinion is not the Nation opinion
George_M is offline  
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to George_M For This Useful Post:
4x4bike ped (06-08-2017), Cressrb (06-08-2017), GRAYGHOST (06-08-2017), JobeyV (06-08-2017)
post #6591 of 6876 (permalink) Old 06-09-2017, 01:13 AM
nutsaboutmydobes
 
JobeyV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,122
Location: England
Dogs Name: Trooper. (Eddie, Amber & Homer all RIP)
Titles: Trouble, sock thief, PITA
Dogs Age: 15-3-11 (Eddie 1999-2009, Amber 1997-2011, Homer 2005-2012)
Gallery Pics: 0
Visit JobeyV's Gallery
Thanks: 4,930
Thanked 4,317 Times in 1,637 Posts
                     
Well, this is a nightmare. What the heck was Theresa May thinking?

We now have a hung parliament & are facing the prospect of Brexit being scuppered.

So angry about this. May never needed to call this election in the first place, her position was safe til 2020.
Dandobermanowner and George_M like this.

JobeyV is offline  
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to JobeyV For This Useful Post:
Beaumont67 (06-19-2017), Dandobermanowner (06-09-2017), GRAYGHOST (06-09-2017)
post #6592 of 6876 (permalink) Old 06-09-2017, 01:21 AM
Big Lil pup
 
4x4bike ped's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 5,795
Location: Portland, OR
Dogs Name: Foxfire's The Real McCoy (McCoy)
Titles: Pet of the Year
Dogs Age: DOB 9/12/14
Gallery Pics: 9
Visit 4x4bike ped's Gallery
Thanks: 15,185
Thanked 13,688 Times in 4,731 Posts
Images: 9
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by JobeyV View Post
Well, this is a nightmare. What the heck was Theresa May thinking?

We now have a hung parliament & are facing the prospect of Brexit being scuppered.

So angry about this. May never needed to call this election in the first place, her position was safe til 2020.
Ugh...
4x4bike ped is offline  
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to 4x4bike ped For This Useful Post:
Dandobermanowner (06-09-2017), JobeyV (06-09-2017)
post #6593 of 6876 (permalink) Old 06-09-2017, 02:46 AM
Alpha
 
Dandobermanowner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 247
Location: UK
Dogs Name: Darcy, Oscar and Sirius (R.I.P)
Dogs Age: 22/12/2014 - 16/10/17
Gallery Pics: 2
Visit Dandobermanowner's Gallery
Thanks: 597
Thanked 259 Times in 144 Posts
Images: 2
                   
I just bloody despair. Four one way tickets to Australia please.
JobeyV likes this.
Dandobermanowner is offline  
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Dandobermanowner For This Useful Post:
JobeyV (06-09-2017), melbrod (06-09-2017), Zeblar (06-09-2017)
post #6594 of 6876 (permalink) Old 06-09-2017, 03:41 AM
Alpha
 
Zeblar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 974
Location: South West England
Dogs Name: Odin
Dogs Age: 18 Apr 2010
Gallery Pics: 0
Visit Zeblar's Gallery
Thanks: 4,413
Thanked 2,930 Times in 749 Posts
                     
Hung is the correct word, the UK has one great big noose around it's neck right now. Might just ask to stay in Germany for longer it's less of a mess...
Dandobermanowner likes this.

Zeblar is offline  
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Zeblar For This Useful Post:
Dandobermanowner (06-09-2017), JobeyV (06-09-2017), melbrod (06-09-2017)
post #6595 of 6876 (permalink) Old 06-09-2017, 12:10 PM
nutsaboutmydobes
 
JobeyV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,122
Location: England
Dogs Name: Trooper. (Eddie, Amber & Homer all RIP)
Titles: Trouble, sock thief, PITA
Dogs Age: 15-3-11 (Eddie 1999-2009, Amber 1997-2011, Homer 2005-2012)
Gallery Pics: 0
Visit JobeyV's Gallery
Thanks: 4,930
Thanked 4,317 Times in 1,637 Posts
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dandobermanowner View Post
I just bloody despair. Four one way tickets to Australia please.
Any room in the suitcase for me?
Dandobermanowner likes this.

JobeyV is offline  
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to JobeyV For This Useful Post:
Dandobermanowner (06-09-2017), melbrod (06-09-2017)
post #6596 of 6876 (permalink) Old 06-09-2017, 04:11 PM
Alpha
 
Dandobermanowner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 247
Location: UK
Dogs Name: Darcy, Oscar and Sirius (R.I.P)
Dogs Age: 22/12/2014 - 16/10/17
Gallery Pics: 2
Visit Dandobermanowner's Gallery
Thanks: 597
Thanked 259 Times in 144 Posts
Images: 2
                   
Quote:
Originally Posted by JobeyV View Post
Any room in the suitcase for me?
Yeah, maybe we could claim asylum? A Tory Christian - I'm feeling persecuted!
JobeyV likes this.
Dandobermanowner is offline  
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Dandobermanowner For This Useful Post:
Beaumont67 (06-13-2017), GRAYGHOST (06-09-2017), melbrod (06-09-2017), Zeblar (06-10-2017)
post #6597 of 6876 (permalink) Old 06-13-2017, 11:28 PM
Alpha
 
Beaumont67's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 11,225
Location: St. Thomas, Ontario
Dogs Name: Kelly
Titles: CD Obedience & Therapy
Dogs Age: puppy
Gallery Pics: 0
Visit Beaumont67's Gallery
Thanks: 57,227
Thanked 24,681 Times in 9,225 Posts
                     
FYI - their is often talk, of a reigning President with a look-a-like double.

Rumor has it:
- blue tie Trump, is Fake
- red tie Trump, is the Real deal

Even Ben Carson when asked, how could you work for a man that called you a pedophile?
- he said, "that was the blue tie Donald"...LOL

The double, does look like he lost some weight...blue tie Trump, even holds his wife's hand.

------------Kelly & (Amy - RIP @ 11.7 y/o)

Last edited by Beaumont67; 07-30-2017 at 09:07 AM.
Beaumont67 is offline  
post #6598 of 6876 (permalink) Old 06-19-2017, 02:56 PM
Big Dog
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 96
Dogs Name: Tell us your dogs name

Gallery Pics: 0
Visit apollothedog's Gallery
Thanks: 8
Thanked 73 Times in 44 Posts
       
There's been a lot of action lately in the US, from the baseball game, to gutting dodd-frank in the house, to the most expensive special election ever getting underway. No comment from anyone?

Also, sorry to hear about the various tragedies hitting the UK and France right now.
apollothedog is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to apollothedog For This Useful Post:
Dandobermanowner (06-20-2017)
post #6599 of 6876 (permalink) Old 06-19-2017, 05:42 PM
Big Lil pup
 
4x4bike ped's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 5,795
Location: Portland, OR
Dogs Name: Foxfire's The Real McCoy (McCoy)
Titles: Pet of the Year
Dogs Age: DOB 9/12/14
Gallery Pics: 9
Visit 4x4bike ped's Gallery
Thanks: 15,185
Thanked 13,688 Times in 4,731 Posts
Images: 9
                     
Nope... Just ruminating over the assassination attempt on the life of Republican Congressman Steve Scalise, by an uber progressive Bernie Sanders supporter and volunteer.

John
Portland OR
4x4bike ped is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to 4x4bike ped For This Useful Post:
GRAYGHOST (06-20-2017)
post #6600 of 6876 (permalink) Old 06-20-2017, 03:38 PM
Alpha
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,828
Location: Virginia
Dogs Name: Anne [Dobermann]
Titles: TV Watching Companion III, K9 Nosework Dog in training
Dogs Age: Anne-Born 7-26-08
Gallery Pics: 0
Visit GRAYGHOST's Gallery
Thanks: 12,725
Thanked 1,898 Times in 1,095 Posts
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by apollothedog View Post
There's been a lot of action lately in the US, from the baseball game, to gutting dodd-frank in the house, to the most expensive special election ever getting underway. No comment from anyone?

Also, sorry to hear about the various tragedies hitting the UK and France right now.

Dodd-Frank was terrible legislation and needed to delt with.

Quote:
Originally Posted by 4x4bike ped View Post
Nope... Just ruminating over the assassination attempt on the life of Republican Congressman Steve Scalise, by an uber progressive Bernie Sanders supporter and volunteer.

John
Portland OR

The attack on the Republicans was another sad example of how desperate and vicious the left is. They hate Republicans, President Trump, conservatives in general, and Bible believing Christians.


Let us dare to read, think, speak and write.

_____John Adams, A Dissertation on the Canon and the Feudal Law.
GRAYGHOST is offline  
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Doberman Forum : Doberman Breed Dog Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome