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post #6226 of 6863 (permalink) Old 01-27-2017, 07:19 PM
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As a devout follower of Jesus Christ, I would love it if you could show me what part of the Bible was referenced for this quote?

I never stated that the Bible said America was to be free in those words. America was founded as a Christian nation. My home is in Virginia where the first settlers planted a cross on the beach when they arrived as a sign of their belief. The Bible is clear that God's people should be free. Would you prefer that we should be enslaved under communism and/or radical Islam?



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But at the same time every one of Trump's followers doesn't even bat an eye when he mocks a disabled person, threatens the freedom of the press just because they say things he doesn't like, nominates completely unqualified people like Betsy Devos, refuses to show his tax returns because he doesn't want people to know the truth, he continues to spout false crap about millions of fraudulent voters even though no one with any credibility believes it, and so on and so forth. As a Christian, this man offends me as a person. But as a politician, I hope he can make some real changes.

President Trump has the opportunity to make real change with the state of DC right now. And I know that most of the people on this site tend to side with Republicans. But until any of you are able to see the obvious flaws of our POTUS, your hopelessly biased.
Donald Trump did not mock a disabled person; he merely used the same gesture that he often uses when he disagrees with some one. He used the same gesture when he disagreed with an army general. Stossel, on Fox News, did a whole program on lies from the left about Trump.

As has been pointed out Betsy DeVos is very qualified to be Education Secretary. All of his appointees are fully qualified for their positions, much more than the hacks that Obama had in his cabinet.

As a devout follower of Jesus, as I am, I am certain that you are for the protection of the unborn, that you believe in the Holy Trinity, take Holy Communion on a regular basis, and believe in all of the sacraments. If so you must know that none of us is perfect; I am flawed, as is President Trump. Only Jesus was perfect.


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Caleb,

We're not hopelessly biased, we're just old & cynical. We've been around the block a few times, our eyes are wide open & we can see what's really going on.

Quite frankly, there's far more going on in the world to get your nuts in a knot about than some comment Trump made many years ago & as a woman I can say I wasn't offended. Woman can be just as crude as men, you know.

As for the press, they need taking to task. The venom that has spewed from them on both sides of the pond has been disgusting. News organisations should report in a balanced way putting both sides of the arguement across, all I see is one sided hatred on their part. Trump doesn't need to do anything because they are destroying themselves. They have lost all credibility & are a joke amongst most right minded people.

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Donald Trump Executive Order: For Every New Federal Regulation, Two Others Cut

U.S. President Donald Trump signs an executive order in the Oval Office of the White House surrounded by small business leaders January 30, 2017 in Washington, DC. Trump said he will dramatically reduce regulations overall with this executive action as it requires that for every new federal regulation implemented, two must be rescinded.

Trump explained during the signing ceremony at the White House that for every new regulation that would be created, two other regulations would have to be cut.

“If there’s a new regulation, we have to knock out two,” Trump said. “But it goes beyond that. We’re cutting regulations massively for small business and for large business.”

Trump met with small business leaders earlier in the morning, who joined him for the signing ceremony.

Trump called his order the “biggest such act that our country has ever seen” and said it would help kickstart small businesses.

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undoubtedly he is going to go in there and decide which regulations he would like to cut. That goes without saying. And he will get it done and he will cut them.

Now.....on a random tuesday when YOU show up with a brand new regulation you'd like to add.....YOU are going to be the one faced with a choice. You are going to be told....well....we can consider this. Now what two do you propose we cut in order to get yours passed. YOU will have to deal with whether or not to cut food or safe water regulations.

And when YOU are faced with that decision..... YOU might not show up wasting anyones time in the first place with your regulation demanding integrated bathrooms or whatever other crap you had on your mind.

the actual intent is not to actually cut two for every one added.

the actual intent is to minimize the desire to fill the table with regulations in the first place

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Acting Attorney General Orders Justice Dept. Not to Defend Refugee Ban
- The Leftists and the Media.....are working together to delegitimize President Trump.


First, the acting Attorney-General refuses to enforce his lawful EO, and not that the Article almost always refers to the President as "Mr. Trump"....a clear sign of disrespect for the office.

WASHINGTON — Acting Attorney General Sally Q. Yates, a holdover from the Obama administration, ordered the Justice Department on Monday not to defend President Trump’s executive order on immigration in court.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...cid=spartandhp

^^ Today - Trump FIRED Acting Attorney General Sally Q. Yates.

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President Trump just made another HUGE change in his administration!

President Trump has just dismissed director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Daniel Ragsdale.
Taking his place is Thomas D. Homan.
http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=60531

C&P: "I can’t wait to see who’s fired next on “Federal Apprentice”...
Stay tuned. The producer has at least a 4-year contract." Monday must be garbage day in DC.

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Cruz comments on fired acting AG Sally Yates

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After eight long years of a lawless Obama Department of Justice, it is fitting--and sad--that the very last act of the Obama DOJ is for the Acting AG to defy the newly elected President, refuse to enforce the law, and force the President to fire her. Sally Yates now joins the ignominious succession, from Eric Holder to Loretta Lynch, of Attorneys General who put brazen partisan interests above fidelity to law. President Trump was exactly right to fire an acting Attorney General who refused to carry out her constitutional duty to enforce and defend the law. Yates’ lawless partisanship highlights why the Senate needs to act now- and Senate Democrats should end their extreme political obstruction and delay--and confirm Jeff Sessions immediately. America needs and deserves an Attorney General who will be faithful to the Constitution and uphold the law.
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The far left members of the Senate are doing everything possible to delay the confirmation of President Trumps nominations for his cabinet. They are showing what "clowns" they really are, especially Shummer with his fake tears.

Previous to the last election there were 100 members of Congress who could not pass an FBI security check, also Obama could not. Plus many members of the Obama Administration could not. Just an example of how much the communist/radical Muslim gang has worked its' way into the U.S. Government.

This same dangerous gang of radicals, plus George Soros' funding, was behind the anti-Trump demonstrations in Washington, and the airport demonstrations.


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It's good to see our MP's, well most of them anyway, sticking to what the people wanted with Brexit!
Brexit plan published in government White Paper - BBC News
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It's good to see our MP's, well most of them anyway, sticking to what the people wanted with Brexit!


And about time too.

Now let's get on with it & invoke article 50.

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Quote Muslim Leader: America Must Understand Sharia Law is Greater Than the Constitution, Therefore Muslims are Above the Law

The Director of the Dallas Council on American- Islamic Relations (CAIR), Mustafa Carroll, made a surprising and shocking statement during a Muslim rally in Austin, Texas. He firmly believes that the message of the Qur’an is supreme over the United States constitution. The statement would be shocking to most citizens of the United States, unless they had some perspective on who CAIR really is.

He said, “If we are practicing Muslims, we are above the law of the land.”
- CAIR is the nation’s largest Muslim civil liberties and advocacy organization. Their headquarters is located in Washington D.C. They use lobbyists, the media, and action alerts to promote a positive image of Islam in America during a time when Radical Muslims (ISIS) in other parts of the world are crucifying children in the name of Allah, and quoting the Koran (Though the Obama Administration has a hard time calling it ‘Radical Islam’ for fear of offending regular Muslims).
- In 2007 the Holy Land Foundation trial found the Holy Land Foundation Charity guilty of funneling millions of dollars back to the terrorist organization Hamas. Interestingly enough, CAIR was among the organizations named during the trial as unindicted co-conspirators. To put that into perspective, the 37th president of the United States, Richard Nixon, was named an unindicted co-conspirator during the Watergate Trial.

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So Odumbo had agreed to take Australia's muzzy rejects

Quote: Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull insisted Thursday that a deal struck with the Obama administration that would allow mostly Muslim refugees rejected by Australia to be resettled in the United States was still on, despite President Donald Trump dubbing the agreement “dumb” and vowing to review it.
Guess he really did hate America. Why on earth would he agree to take refugees that Australia had obviously determined were a threat to their country?
http://www.torontosun.com/2017/02/02...bombers-report

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Oh sh*t .... this will not end well for Canada. Didn't TruD'oh say he'd allow any refugees into the country that the US didn't want? Oh goody .... now we're going to end up with everybody's rejects. What could possibly go wrong with that plan?

Not quite true, the current Government made a decision that any people who tried to sneak into Australia by trying to come in NOT through approved methods would be moved to neighbouring countries in a deal the Australian Government struck with these countries, places like Nauru & Papua New Guinea. Basically these people tried to come in via boats from Indonesia. Our Border Security picked them up before they got to Australia and moved them to Nauru or Manus Island.

These people were NEVER EVER processed by Australia so their level of threat was never determined by Australia as they never got here.
- They are sitting in these places, so to try to get a clear slate the current Government cut a deal with the Obama administration to take these people, again they were NEVER EVER processed by Australia to determine their level of threat, they could in fact be genuine refugees, but we don't take people who try to short-cut the formal process

John McCain supposedly called the Australian pm
- Why is no one condemning Australia for refusing to take those people??

Trump needs to tell the Australia govt to ask Obozo if he is going to house them at his place, if not STFU.

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Pelosi: Sanctuary Cities Make Us ‘Safer,’

Pelosi said, “San Francisco is a sanctuary city. And we see it as the a place where it makes us safer. It makes us safer, because people can go to school. They can get driver’s licenses. They can be witnesses against other violence that they see in the community. Whereas if they came forward to profess that, they’d have to be taken up by ICE. We don’t think that we should make our police officers immigration officers.”

Later, Pelosi was asked by the mother of a man who was killed by an illegal immigrant, “If you need to go home tonight and line up your babies as you say, and your grandbabies, which one of them could you look in their eyes today, and tell them that they’re expendable, for another foreign person to have an a nicer life? Which one would you like to say, ‘You, my child, are expendable for someone else to come over here and not follow the law and have a nicer life?'”

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It is a nice feeling these days to know Trump is in charge and looking out for the American public at large. I really hope he can scale down are military and CIA involvement in the Middle East and Ukraine , this is the only area that worries me.
It is also disturbing that these rent a mobs are allowed to carry on the way they have been if this is not dealt with swiftly this could get out of hand. Maybe once Law enforcement believes they have a leader who will stand with them they will handle these situations timely without subjecting the citizens to so much property damage.
It is great Judo on Trumps part with many world leaders , US will not use Tax payer money to Fund the death of the Unborn and the leaders say "will show you and make our Tax payers pay" , Canada will show us by taking the immigrants that Australia does not want...phone calls and the pen are proving to save the American Tax payer ...we still have a 20 trillion debt that they will admit to though.
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....Oh sh*t .... this will not end well for Canada. Didn't TruD'oh say he'd allow any refugees into the country that the US didn't want? Oh goody .... now we're going to end up with everybody's rejects. What could possibly go wrong with that plan?....
And , of course, the USA and Canada share a long basically undefended border (Canada does have a sensor system, but...). Canada accepting refugees will not end well for the US either if folks who want to harm the US “leak” across the border.
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And , of course, the USA and Canada share a long basically undefended border (Canada does have a sensor system, but...). Canada accepting refugees will not end well for the US either if folks who want to harm the US “leak” across the border.
^^ Totally agree...but our useless PM will let them in Canada / a feel good move.

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TLDR: The new Prime minister in Canada (Justin Trudeau - Liberal), spouting off about the importance of raising feminist sons. Canada to be even more BP then before.

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This sh*t seems to only be going on in predominantly white countries for the most part. Is it just me or is there some kind of agenda in full force as of late? Divide and conquer us, make us docile and lethargic, our women hate us, we constantly talk about no longer having children, getting married, etc....a few more generations and whites will be extinct. Who is pushing for this outcome the hardest? Who is pulling the strings of feminism? Politics? The media / culture? I wish I was born in different generation.
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I saw that Pelosi segment. I watched it with my 12 year old son. She is a complete robot. Eyes and heart as black as coal. When that mother told her how her boy was killed Pelosi in her auto matron response was completely detached and void of empathy. That party can be rubbed out. Her and the entitled out of touch elites that have destroyed the lunch pal blue collar democrat so out of touch. Just keep it up the whole lot of them are contributing to that parties desolation. A disgrace what occurred at Berkeley, but again keep it up as it is just more weight they will not be able to get out from under. I wonder if Pelosi would still be DREAMING if she experienced an 8 year old boy be blown apart at a Marathon or had her son slaughtered and had to hear the details to boot. God Bless America.....
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Nancy Pelosi - what a waste of oxygen...Batshit crazy.

DISGUSTING! Pelosi Calls Steve Bannon 'White Supremacist in the White House"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03RQ5CjFPs4

Pelosi: Sanctuary Cities Make Us ‘Safer,’

Pelosi said, “San Francisco is a sanctuary city. And we see it as the a place where it makes us safer. It makes us safer, because people can go to school. They can get driver’s licenses. They can be witnesses against other violence that they see in the community. Whereas if they came forward to profess that, they’d have to be taken up by ICE. We don’t think that we should make our police officers immigration officers.”

Later, Pelosi was asked by the mother of a man who was killed by an illegal immigrant, “If you need to go home tonight and line up your babies as you say, and your grandbabies, which one of them could you look in their eyes today, and tell them that they’re expendable, for another foreign person to have an a nicer life? Which one would you like to say, ‘You, my child, are expendable for someone else to come over here and not follow the law and have a nicer life?'”

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It's Official! The Left Has Just Declared War

The leftist activist group Occupy Oakland has declared War on differing opinions and the current Administration.

Occupy Oakland @OccupyOakland
We won this night. We will control the streets. We will liberate the land. We will fight fascists. We will dismantle the state. This is war.

It's Official! The Left Has Just Declared War

John Fields · Preaching Minister at Hillsboro Church of Christ
- Nah ... it won't come to that. When they start getting even a little push-back from the law enforcement personnel that Donald Trump provides they will melt like a snowflake in summer.
- A few batons upside their thick skulls and a few tear gas canisters and they will fade into oblivion.
- And we haven't even gotten started on cutting them off from Soros' money.

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OH BOY! Ted Nugent Sends Obama Off With a “Thank You” That’s Going Viral!
[ This is PRICELESS! ]

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I'm not interested in going back and reading this thread as I don't come here for politics. I just wanted you all to know that I was one of those women marching in Washington DC on January 21st. The little bit I read here just showed me how ugly some people can get when they talk about liberals. I own that word and am proud of it. I'm a liberal, always have been and always will be. I've sat through many republican presidents without a murmur - they were not my choice, but I shrugged my shoulders and went on with my life. This time is different -anyone IMHO that can look at Trump and think he is in any way presidential after the truly despicable things he has said and done are truly going through life with their eyes, ears, and heart closed. I'm embarrassed beyond shame at the things he says and does - he does not in any way speak for me or my family. I will continue to resist until he is out the door, and pray that he does not get us into another war we cannot afford. And that is all I'm saying about that..... back to your regular programming of alternative facts.

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I'm not interested in going back and reading this thread as I don't come here for politics. I just wanted you all to know that I was one of those women marching in Washington DC on January 21st. The little bit I read here just showed me how ugly some people can get when they talk about liberals. I own that word and am proud of it. I'm a liberal, always have been and always will be. I've sat through many republican presidents without a murmur - they were not my choice, but I shrugged my shoulders and went on with my life. This time is different -anyone IMHO that can look at Trump and think he is in any way presidential after the truly despicable things he has said and done are truly going through life with their eyes, ears, and heart closed. I'm embarrassed beyond shame at the things he says and does - he does not in any way speak for me or my family. I will continue to resist until he is out the door, and pray that he does not get us into another war we cannot afford. And that is all I'm saying about that..... back to your regular programming of alternative facts.
So why bother to come here & leave a comment if you don't want to talk politics?

You mention the ugly talk on here about the liberals, the most disgusting language & actions I have seen have come from the liberals. Did you see any footage of the riots in Berkeley? Did you see the female Trump supporter get pepper sprayed whilst being interviewed? People being attacked with flag poles? So many incidents of violent behaviour from the oh so tolerant liberals that would take me all night to type out?

What about the liberal media & the despicable way they have spoken about 10 year old Barron Trump? Do you condone that?

You want ugly talk, click on this link & take a look at the second pic. What kind of example is that "mother" & I use that term loosely setting for her impressionable young daughter? (Mods feel free to remove this link if you deem it too offensive)

Thousands protest Donald Trump's travel ban in London | Daily Mail Online

What about the George Soros funded BLM? Do you condone their behaviour or any of the groups this POS funds? Have you even heard of George Soros? Can you honestly say hand on heart that you are proud to be associated with these types of people? I suggest it is you who have your eyes & ears closed as to what is really going on in the world.
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I don't condone violence and it has been on both sides. I could give you plenty of examples, but it really is not worth the time. I believe in peaceful resistance and that is what I do. There were over 500,000 people at the rally in DC alone - not one issue according to the DC police. The only calls were medical. I don't condone any negative attention given to Trumps young son - but will tell you that there were plenty of negative things said about Obama's young daughters when he took office: hurtful racist things said about his entire family..... they went on for all 8 years. There will unfortunately be people who take it too far in any political group, but the vast majority of people never condone that on either side of an issue.
Only time will tell how Trump will fare. I hope he finds his conscience soon, and I hope he does not tweet us into a war. I'm not encouraged by what he has done so far. Instead of surrounding himself with competent people, he has let money talk and is surrounding himself with others who have no real experience or worse people who are totally against the very thing they are being given power over. I'm a teacher and have worked in the public schools for more than a dozen years. I went to public schools and Universities, so do my children. DeVos has no experience in the public schools, does not have a degree in education and in fact is against public schools - she has no business becoming secretary of Education - heck I have WAY more qualifications than she does..... but oh wait, I lack the billions of dollars she has with which she has bribed her way into being nominated. In my own state, she has donated over $60,000 to Senator Toomeys election campaign - he has been inundated with constituents begging him not to cast his vote for her confirmation..... I'm 99.99% sure he won't listen to the people in my state. For every 1 call/email for DeVos in Pennsylvania, there are at least 10 calls against her...... that is from the mouth of one of the people answering his phones and taking names.
Ugh, it just makes me sick. Sure, some people will benefit from Trump, I happen to be one of them as my family falls into the top few % as far as income goes. It's not worth it when the bottom 90+ % are going to suffer IMHO. Manufacturing jobs are not coming back unless people are willing to pay a lot more for their products in order to buy American. It's sad how deluded Trump supporters are. JMHO

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Betsy DeVos is fully qualified to be Education Secretary; she does not need to be a teacher to clean up the Obama mess. There should be school choice. Why are the teacher unions afraid of competition?

As for the disgusting women's march, it was basically a pro-abortion march by people in stupid hats. By the way, Anglia Davis (1970's communist organizer) was a speaker, and the Communist Party U.S.A. was a listed sponsor. Really nice bunch of people.

All of these marches and demonstrations are financed by George Soros, and organized by communists/radical Muslim organizations.
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The problem is that liberalism is being conflated with progressivism/socialism. Although I am conservative I acknowledge that liberal viewpoints are healthy to our democracy; not every problem can be solved looking through one lens.
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I think you can fairly say that the people Trump has surrounded himself with are in favor of things you are not...the same holds true for Obama’s picks and my beliefs...but I don’t know how you can say that for the most part, the people he has chosen are not qualified.

Take a look at the person he has picked as a Supreme Court nominee. You may not agree with his rulings, but keep in mind that just a few years ago, he was approved UNANIMOUSLY for a federal judgeship by Congress. So what has changed since then?

A President can choose whatever person he thinks will judge fairly, according to his philosophy of how the Constitution should be interpreted in this day and age. Unless the opposition can find something actually wrong with the candidate for judgeship...corruption, poor knowledge of the law, lack of experience...the President’s pick is generally approved. But obstructionism just because a person does not share your political philosophy, when the majority of a newly elected (not a lame-duck voted out of power) Congress shares the newly elected President’s philosophy, and agrees with his choice? That is not the way the country has traditionally been run.

Before you blame the Republicans for not even allowing a hearing on Obama’s Supreme Court pick, consider how many bills the right proposed that Harry Reid didn’t even allow to come to the floor for a vote? Is that so different?


Politics...bitter divisiveness...frankly, as far as I am concerned, until this last election season, a heck of a whole lot of it from the left. Obama just said his racist things in “sophisticated” doubletalk to an adoring press, so it wasn’t as obvious.

But obviously we won’t agree there either, so...

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Yup... When all is said and done, that is what is all about.

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The problem is that liberalism is being conflated with progressivism/socialism. Although I am conservative I acknowledge that liberal viewpoints are healthy to our democracy; not every problem can be solved looking through one lens.
I believe that today's liberals are nothing like those of the past, like President Harry Truman who was very anti-communist, or President John F. Kennedy who would, in today's Democratic Party, would be considered conservative.

The liberal of today, I believe, easily moves from liberalism, to socialism, to communism. You only have to look to many colleges to see this move from simple liberal thought to advocating complete communist overthrow of the Constitution.

There is nothing wrong with a well thought out liberal viewpoint, but there are very, very few really thoughtful liberals left. Today's Democratic Party does not want them.


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I just have to laugh - communism? Who is practically in bed with Putin?? Women's March? Were you there? We came from all over the country for so many reasons. No one is "pro abortion" what 7 out of 10 people are is pro choice. As far as "Pro life" is concerned, the real name should be "pro birth"..... because supporting the life after it is born is not quite so important to many in that group - nor is preventing the pregnancy in the first place.
I personally find abortion to be morally wrong, but I've never been faced with an unplanned or unwanted pregnancy. I'd like to think that the option would be there and I don't think it is any of my business what someone else decides during the first trimester. The 2nd trimester should only be for medical issues. I had a later in life pregnancy and had an amniocentesis at 20 weeks - it was 22 weeks by the time I could sit down with the Dr for the results. In my case, it all worked out ok in the end but the rest of my pregnancy was terrifying. When results are terrible, then it is a late term abortion when it was a very wanted pregnancy. Those kinds of decisions are horrible and no body's business. People don't just get abortions after 12 weeks for nothing -
I don't expect to change anyones mind - but I think this thread got taken over by the extreme right wing, and I think it needed a little balancing. I only read one page of it, and have no plans to go back and read more. Why this breed seems to attract a large % of very right wing people has always amazed me. I mostly just ignore it as everyone has a right to their own opinion. What I will say is that people on both sides need to stop reading super slanted alternative news sources and move towards the middle in order to get a more unbiased report of what is going on. If we are going to come together as a nation again, we need to be willing to meet in the middle.
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It is a woman's choice to do with her unborn as she wants ,I agree that it is morally wrong.

What was learned from Project Veritas videos that were done with Planned Parenthood was that the late term abortions can bring them more money due to the more developed organs. I found this information chilling.

A unbiased news source good luck , this country is facing a time of division that i think that we are going to be pulled much further apart before any coming together happens. The powers to be usually have one way to bring a nation together which is to find a enemy to hate. Russia is a difficult sell these days and the Muslims are not a monolithic group just a few bad actors taking up all the air and most of the nation is wise now to these type of psyops used on the public.
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