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The protesters are marching today in their stupid pink hats. By excluding a pro-life women's group that was against President Trump the organizers showed that their main concern is to continue the murder of unborn (and partially born) babies. They are really upset that they lost their two pro baby killing politicians in Obama and Mrs Clinton.


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Recently, while I was working in the flower beds in the front yard, my neighbors stopped to chat as they returned home from walking their dog. During our friendly conversation, I asked their little girl what she wanted to be when she grew up. She said she wanted to be Prime Minister someday. Both of her parents, Liberals, were standing there so I asked her, "If you were Prime Minister what would be the first thing you would do?"

She replied... “I'd give food and houses to all the homeless people." Her parents beamed with pride!

"Wow...what a worthy goal!" I said...” But you don't have to wait until you're Prime Minister to do that!"

"What do you mean?" she replied.

So, I told her, "You can come over to my house and mow the lawn, pull weeds, and trim my hedge, and I'll pay you $50. Then you can go over to the grocery store where the homeless guy hangs out, and you can give him the $50 to use toward food and a new house."

She thought that over for a few seconds, then she looked me straight in the eye and asked, "Why doesn't the homeless guy come over and do the work, and you can just pay him the $50?"

I said, "Welcome to the Conservative Party."

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Because the protesting women’s groups marching today all over the world purposely and vocally did not include pro-life women, they certainly don’t represent me or many other pro-life women. No solidarity there. Enough of this hypocrisy--this group is just another special interest group with a specific agenda--not a representative group of women of the world.
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Enough of this hypocrisy--this group is just another special interest group with a specific agenda--not a representative group of women of the world.
Totally agree with you.

Disgusting behaviour especially from the likes of Madonna.

If they care about womens rights where were the protests over the mass assaults in Germany NYE 2015? No protests either in downtown Riyadh over the appalling treatment of women in the ME? No protests about FGM, forced marriages, honour killings? What about the Yazidi women & girls or the girls still in the clutches of Boko haram in Nigeria? No protesting for the right for girls worldwide to have an education?

Oh no, we couldn't possibly protest about things that are really important & affect millions of our sisters worldwide, we'll just protest about a comment a man said over 10 years ago in a locker room. You're pathetic, each & every one of you. Makes me embarrassed to be female.
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Trump and a horse...

A young man named Donald bought a horse from a farmer for $250.

The farmer agreed to deliver the horse the next day.

The next day, the farmer drove up to Donald's house and said, “Sorry son, but I have some bad news… the horse died.”...

Donald replied, “Well, then just give me my money back.” The farmer said, “Can’t do that. I went and spent it already.”

Donald said, “Ok, then, just bring me the dead horse.”

The farmer asked, “What ya gonna do with him?”

Donald said, “I’m going to raffle him off.”

The farmer said, “You can’t raffle off a dead horse!”

Donald said, “Sure I can… Watch me… I just won’t tell anybody he’s dead.”

A month later, the farmer met up with Donald and asked,

“What happened with that dead horse?” Donald said, “I raffled him off”.

“I sold 500 tickets at $5 apiece and made a profit of $2495.”

The farmer said, “Didn’t anyone complain?”

Donald said, “Just the guy who won. So I gave him his $5 back.”

Donald just moved into the White House.

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^^ Then, to dispose of the carcass, the EPA required $2500 for the application for a Hazardous Waste Disposal permit, another $10,000 for the permit if it is granted, the CDC demanded $5,000 for testing the carcass for infectious diseases, then the EPA demanded another $2,500 for another application, this time for the air pollution waiver required for the cremation of the carcass. That's not even getting into the Carbon Credits that need to be purchased form manbearpig's Carbon Credit Exchange and the broker's fees for that.

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While I understand that the frustration of those who voted for Donald and disagreements with the left as to how the country should be run have elected Donald into power, I can't help but feel that his supporters are being purposefully blind to his issues. Even as a liberal, I was not a fan of Hillary, mostly because she was the stereotypical untrustworthy politician who was played by everyone with the money to do so. I can't say I was for Donald, due to his hate filled rhetoric, bullying, fear-mongering, etc, but every once in a while, he'd say something that make sense: abolish the TPP, drain the swamp, etc.

Now that he's elected, I feel it's up to both sides to have a critical view of their president. That doesn't mean denounce him, because as much as it still pains me to see a man who would probably hate me for everything that I didn't chose to be in the white house, he was still elected, at the very least by the electoral college. I feel the marches against him are more than bit pointless. The time to rally and get people to vote has past and people really have to get over him being president. It's not going to change anytime soon and even if it did, the line of succession doesn't look much different.

However, I still applaud those that march for issues, especially when concerning women/human rights. It's a tad scary to see the LGBT and Spanish pages come down from the White House website and know that what the current government doesn't like are people who look and love differently from them. There are plenty of English-speaking Hispanic people that are simply more comfortable keeping informed in Spanish. My mother is one of them. She's fully fluent in English but reading-wise, English is a difficult language and she turns to Spanish news and websites to keep current as to what's happening in this country.

Apart from all this, my main concern with Trump's presidency, only a few days old is the hypocrisy of it all.

I understand taking a hard stance against Hillary's private email server, but I don't get not getting on Trump's case for it. He is still using a private, unsecured cell phone, at least to tweet on. Conway and several other staff members are using private servers and the like.

I understand not trusting Hillary because she doesn't want to release her emails and speeches, but don't get being perfectly fine with Trump hiding his taxes.

I understand getting on Obama's case for signing a ton of executive orders and considering it overreach, but being content with Trump signing them left and right.

I understand getting annoyed at the last 8 years for what was seen as secretive and not transparent and then being totally down with Trump telling a national department that they can't address the public.

I understand being concerned about voter fraud(despite it not really being much of an issue) but then being okay with Tiffany, Brennan, and others in Trump's family and cabinet being registered in two different states.

I understand not being keen on Hillary because she smoozes with every bigwig that gave to her campaign, but can't understand the lack of reaction to cabinet picks made up of millionaires and billionaires whose only qualifications were that they gave lots of money to Trump's campaign.

I can't even take the "true Christian" right's dislike of Obama's love for science and the lgbt community seriously, because they seem unconcerned with Trump's adultery, nasty comments, and swindling of charity funds.

And about this damn wall....I don't get the point of it. But for those that really do want that wall and expected Trump to make Mexico pay for it, do you not feel cheated now?

Honestly, I feel that to be a patriot means more than waving flags and blindly defending a president(though admittedly, if that's what it entailed, the right wing hasn't been very patriotic while Obama was in the white house...)

I feel that to be a patriot is to want to and work to make your country better, and that sometimes means keeping your president accountable for what he does and does not do. As a liberal, I have been outspoken about my disdain about Obama not having closed Guantanamo as he promised, and I will also applaud Trump for disavowing the TPP. I accept the president as the president of the United States, but I refuse to be told to shut up about things I don't agree with just because he is president.

As for the joke above... I can't see the humour in it. Hypothetically speaking, if someone did this, they are a cheating, lying scoundrel that isn't any better than someone heading a pyramid scheme...and don't deserve respect for making money, but contempt for making it by lying and swindling common people out of their money.
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President Donald J. Trump is keeping his campaign promises, rare for anyone in politics. He is on the way to making "America Great Again".

His executive orders have merely undone Obama's executive orders that undermined America and the Constitution. In the past Donald Trump only said some crude things, but did not act on them; Bill Clinton acted (he actually raped women) and Mrs Clinton covered for him.


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When was America great? Why must it be made so again? I think the way to bettering this country is looking to the future, not the past.

And Donald has several sexual assault cases against him. I am not defending Clinton because he also is a miserable misogynist who abused his position of power to take advantage of women below him but his actions do not detract from Trump's own depravity. Hillary didn't cover for her husband and she's the one that was cheated on so you cannot blame her for any of his disgusting actions. She forgave him and was willing to overlook his adultery, similar to Trump's later wives that were mistresses before he had divorced the previous ones. When they were cheated on, it was similarly NOT THEIR FAULT, but when they were mistresses, they do shoulder some of the blame as they knew he was married.

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The failures and successes of the past is what guides future choices of the wise.

Wow , what a surprise you cant find humour.
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Hillary did indeed cover for Bill--see https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/03/u...omen.html?_r=0, for one.

Remember “right wing conspiracy”? She knew perfectly well at the time the kind of activities that Bill was involved in.
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When was America great? Why must it be made so again? I think the way to bettering this country is looking to the future, not the past.

And Donald has several sexual assault cases against him. I am not defending Clinton because he also is a miserable misogynist who abused his position of power to take advantage of women below him but his actions do not detract from Trump's own depravity. Hillary didn't cover for her husband and she's the one that was cheated on so you cannot blame her for any of his disgusting actions. She forgave him and was willing to overlook his adultery, similar to Trump's later wives that were mistresses before he had divorced the previous ones. When they were cheated on, it was similarly NOT THEIR FAULT, but when they were mistresses, they do shoulder some of the blame as they knew he was married.
America has been great (just not under Obama). After the attack on Pearl Harbor (Dec. 7, 1941 for those recently educated in public schools) Japanese Admiral Yamamoto (sp.?) said "we have awakened a sleeping giant; we were great then, even after FDR's great depression.


God intended America to be free, to be the golden hope of mankind.

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And about this damn wall....I don't get the point of it.
What?????

You don't get the point of securing your borders????

Wish we had a leader with the balls to secure our borders. Heck, we have a 20+ mile stretch of water between us & mainland Europe, yet our leaders just keep letting them in.
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Sure, our military was...and continues to be the greatest in the world. We outpower any other country easily. But I can't consider America 'great' after the Pearl Harbor attack when they took an entire ethnic group of people and put them in internment camps. That isn't great. It was a dark time of fear mongering and racism.

You say America is intended to be free. I completely agree. But you can't say freedom and try to restrict LGBT rights, women's rights, minority rights. If we are to be a golden hope of mankind, we need to be acting like a proper example of kindness and empathy, or else we are no better than anyone else.

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Securing borders is one thing, building a needlessly expensive wall is pointless. Most drug cartels use tunnels or planes to bring drugs into the country, there are easier ways to get into the US than the border.

Not to mention, promising that Mexico will pay for the wall without some sort of agreement is ridiculous. Why would Mexico pay for a wall they don't want. It's like Canada saying they'll build a wall and we'll pay for it. Uhhhh, if we didn't agree with it, we're not paying and same goes for Mexico. Unless we plan to point our army at them and force them to cough up the money, it's not happening. And now the US will build a wall that will be paid for by the taxpayers and I doubt immigration statistics will change much, if at all.

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Mexico could effectively “pay” for the wall by losing any subsidies or money we are sending them, by us making it harder for illegals in this country to send money home to their families in Mexico, by taxes on Mexican produce which causes folks here to stop buying their goods--money is fungible. (1)

(1) a commodity that is freely interchangeable with another in satisfying an obligation
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The money we are sending them does not cover the cost of the proposed wall. And making it harder to send money to Mexico? That would have to apply to worldwide money transfers and they'd never do that.

Newsflash, illegals are not the only ones that send money to loved ones outside our borders. When my grandmother was alive, my mother paid for all her expenses from here. When my boss's kid studied abroad in Europe, he sent him money for college and living expenses. My old neighbor's Australian's grandmother was sent money on a regular basis.

And most importantly, when CEOs and other tycoons stash their money in Swiss banks or other countries, it'll cut into their profits. They'll never let that happen.

As for taxing imports, that won't affect it much because it'll still be less expensive to manufacture stuff in Mexico and send it up rather than making it in the US, though China and India are still the preferred countries for cheap labour. It would be more effective to put more restrictions on businesses outsourcing but that won't happen either because CEOs need their payouts.

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While I understand that the frustration of those who voted for Donald and disagreements with the left as to how the country should be run have elected Donald into power, I can't help but feel that his supporters are being purposefully blind to his issues............

Now that he's elected, I feel it's up to both sides to have a critical view of their president.............

However, I still applaud those that march for issues, especially when concerning women/human rights................

I understand not trusting Hillary because she doesn't want to release her emails and speeches, but don't get being perfectly fine with Trump hiding his taxes.

I understand getting on Obama's case for signing a ton of executive orders and considering it overreach, but being content with Trump signing them left and right.............
Ixi7311 - The left is brainwashed nearing 100% already...to late to the party, for any logical input or solid debate.
- like it or NOT, Trump is trying to fix the systematic mess / that most ALL politicians, largely ignored...till now
He got elected to restore Capitalism...a win-win for its people, even if some segments of the population are confused.


2 MUST watch videos...long but enjoy:

The Fall of Sweden | Ingrid Carlqvist and Stefan Molyneux
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25VVmCviVao

Treason Against Western Civilization
| David Knight and Stefan Molyneux
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x3JDLr-3sA

^^ Stefan Molyneux is a very clever, unique & refreshing Canadian blogger that cuts to the Truth.
- weather it be the horrific New World Order (aka Illuminati) Master Plan (for us) that is UN approved
- and comes to North America via former Obama, nominee Hillary Clinton & Justin Trudeau (Liberal PM of Canada)
Luckily, USA will be fixed by the Republican's, lead by DJT / escaping a destruction of your great country.

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France , Holland and England are trying to wake from the spell too.
Trump may turn out to be a real leader like him or not!
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Sure, our military was...and continues to be the greatest in the world. We outpower any other country easily. But I can't consider America 'great' after the Pearl Harbor attack when they took an entire ethnic group of people and put them in internment camps. That isn't great. It was a dark time of fear mongering and racism.

Many people (including the FBI Director, J. Edgar Hoover) disagreed with the treatment of Japanese Americans after Pearl Harbor, but remember it was done by the "great" FDR, not by a Republican.


You say America is intended to be free. I completely agree. But you can't say freedom and try to restrict LGBT rights, women's rights, minority rights. If we are to be a golden hope of mankind, we need to be acting like a proper example of kindness and empathy, or else we are no better than anyone else.
What rights? They can vote, they have freedom of speech, they can go on about their lives. Wait, so called 'trans-genders' should use the bathroom of their biological sex. What is wrong with that? Unless they have had complete sex change surgery (DNA never changes) they are still male or female. In any case government has no right to force businesses to allow men in women's restrooms or vise-versa.

The right to murder an unborn child? No, that is the taking of a human life. Eighty percent of women considering an abortion change their minds after seeing as ultrasound picture of their baby. The Supreme Court decision on Roe v. Wade was based on lies and faulty law.


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France , Holland and England are trying to wake from the spell too.
Trump may turn out to be a real leader like him or not!

Oh yeah, we're awake. Well, some of us are.

I have more confidence in the Dutch people than the French. They need to wake up & wake up fast before they are lost like Sweden.

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God intended America to be free, to be the golden hope of mankind.
As a devout follower of Jesus Christ, I would love it if you could show me what part of the Bible was referenced for this quote?

The problem with politics is that both sides blindly follow their side. I refuse to take anyone serious unless they are able to see the obvious flaws on their side. You and many of the other members here are very quick to point out the numerous flaws of President Obama, the Clintons, and everyone on the left. But somehow you are able to shrug off President Trump's on tape confession of grabbing women by their crotch by saying it was just locker room talk. There are sides to both parties that I absolutely hate, which is why I don't side with either.

I agree that parts of the marches were shameful and took away from their purpose. Someone saying that wanted to blow up the white house is outrageous. And excluding pro life groups does make it so that the marches should not be able to be called womens marches.

But at the same time every one of Trump's followers doesn't even bat an eye when he mocks a disabled person, threatens the freedom of the press just because they say things he doesn't like, nominates completely unqualified people like Betsy Devos, refuses to show his tax returns because he doesn't want people to know the truth, he continues to spout false crap about millions of fraudulent voters even though no one with any credibility believes it, and so on and so forth. As a Christian, this man offends me as a person. But as a politician, I hope he can make some real changes.

President Trump has the opportunity to make real change with the state of DC right now. And I know that most of the people on this site tend to side with Republicans. But until any of you are able to see the obvious flaws of our POTUS, your hopelessly biased.


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Quote from Caleb Cox [Trump] "refuses to show his tax returns because he doesn't want people to know the truth” Are you a mind reader?

I’m curious to know why you think Betsy Devos is unqualified? According to her bio (just giving the education parts):

"DeVos is a member of the Republican Party known for her advocacy of school choice, voucher programs....DeVos has been a defender of the Detroit charter school system and she is a member of the board of the Foundation for Excellence in Education. She has served as chairwoman of the board of Alliance for School Choice and heads the All Children Matter PAC."

Maybe she’s never been a teacher, but that doesn’t mean she doesn’t know anything about the way schools could be run. Or are you simply objecting to her because she’s rich?
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How does Trump threaten freedom of the press ???
He has worked as a private citizen and his tax records are personal i do not need to see what would be the point? He has not been a career politicians that constructs a image that one would think that is palatable to the public when it come to ones earnings.
How do you know his assertion that voter fraud is crap ? there are plenty of cases in this country that show voter fraud and many more statistical anomalies that defy logic of 100+ of votes in precincts going to one candidate. I welcome the attention and scrutiny of our voting process.
Yes of course trump is a flawed individual thus is the life of most that has ever walked this planet. What he did do to get to this point was defeat two of the most powerful and corrupt political families in this country with very little help from the MSM and his own party. Just a work ethic and energy that the other candidates could not match.
I too am hopeful that he does make changes that are meaningful to every Americans life and the ending of so much disruption that are foreign policy has been causing to the lives of peoples in other parts world.
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