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....The 2nd Amendment argument is pretty absurd. It takes 2/3 of BOTH houses of Congress to change the Constitution- and then it is sent to the states, 3/4 of which must vote to affirm. Seriously folks- Obama isn't taking your guns, and neither is anybody else. LET IT GO already...

How exactly is Trump going to support police? Never heard him say one whit about them. Or is it that white supremacy is going to return, thus allowing them to continue with the racial profiling and improper training that have led to the current messes? Our police force is currently broken, it is true- but I seriously doubt the deranged cheetoh has any ideas on how to fix it (well, he might have "great ideas" if I "believe him"). But he doesn't, and I don't.
Gun control: the president (as well as municipalities and states) can limit the kinds and amounts of ammunition being sold--which amounts to the same thing.


Trump has made statements supporting the police. Here’s a quote from one of them:
"Well, there is a divide, but I have to say that the police are absolutely mistreated and misunderstood, and if there is an incident, whether it’s an incident done purposely — which is a horror, and you should really take very strong action — or if it is a mistake, it’s on your newscasts all night, all week, all month, and it never ends.

The police in this country have done an unbelievable job of keeping law and order, and they’re afraid for their jobs, they’re afraid of the mistreatment they get, and I’m telling you that not only, me speaking, minorities all over the country, they respect the police of this country and we have to give them more respect.

They can’t act. They can’t act. They’re afraid for losing their pension, their job. They don’t know what to do. And I deal with them all the time. We have to give great respect, far greater than we are right now, to our really fantastic police.”



And see this article from “Mother Jones”--hardly a right wing source. It starts out with this statement and then proceeds to describe his policies: "Donald Trump has been routinely criticized for sharing scant details about the policies he hopes to implement as president. But although he's drawn little attention for it, there is one area where Trump has gotten pretty specific: policing."
We Actually Know a Lot About How Trump Would Handle Policing and Race | Mother Jones

As to your statement:
"Conservatism= fear, hate and prejudice against too many of our fellow Americans, and the time for such fear/hate is I am hoping OVER.”,
I would say much the same about liberalism. Fear/hate--Black Lives matter protesting against saying "all lives matter", police shootings (it goes both ways--see the assassination style shootings of police), rhetoric against Christians, complaints against "micro-aggression”, college campuses refusing to let conservatives give speeches (or shouting them down)--believe me, the list could go on and on...

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How Far Gone Is America? If Clinton Is Elected, We'll Find Out...
- Finally an article that doesn't lick never POS crooked hilary's ass!!!!!!!!

KERRY JACKSON 2:43 PM ET

It isn't hard to find a serious article or piece of punditry in 2016 lamenting the country's steep decline.
There are suspicions -- quite well founded -- that President Obama has used his time in the White House
to take the U.S. down a notch or two with malice aforethought.

Or maybe he's just incompetent.

What can't be argued is that over his years, the national debt has soared to historic heights, rising from $8.5 trillion to more than $19 trillion,
the country's workforce has been crushed, with more than 90 million not working,
and his flaccid economic recovery is $3 trillion behind the legendary Ronald Reagan resurgence.

Meanwhile, the country has probably never been as polarized as it is now.
Elitists have declared war on the common man.
The seeds of division have bloomed into prickly vines grating at those who have opinions and thoughts that the media
and our self-appointed superiors don't approve of.
The president lights racial fires whenever and wherever possible.
Our universities are institutions of forced conformity, narrow thought and seething Hells for dissenters.

As we fight amongst ourselves, an enemy has emerged within our borders --
terrorism has indeed become far more than the nuisance that Secretary of State John Kerry said we needed to learn to put up with.


How have these things happened? How can so many wretched people be in so many places of power, overseeing this descent into a stew of dreariness?
Simply put, the electorate has lost its mind. Voters put Obama in the White House in 2008 without ever looking into his background -- to be fair,
the media weren't interested in doing its due diligence in investigating his past -- and voted him in again in 2012,
still unsure of his background but clearly aware of the wreck that was his first four years.

Like children acting up against their parents, twice they raced to the polls to vote for a candidate
because his middle name is Hussein, because, hey, that'll show 'em . . .

Now in 2016, the electorate is still absent its mind.
The Republican candidate is no Republican -- but he does have a good tax plan --
and the Democratic nominee is the most unfit candidate for the presidency since, well, Obama ran.
If not for him, though, she'd be the least qualified White House candidate ever put forth by a major party in this country's history.

If she is elected, then we'll know that the country is quickly entering the middle part of a long fall that it might not be able to pull out of.
If voters are now incapable of making rational decisions, then what hope is there?

Sometimes hope is all there is, but eight years after hope and change, there's little of it.
Change is needed, but it looks like we're in for more of the same. How can this be?
How can anyone, even the most true-believing Democrat, vote for a candidate who:

Sold the U.S. State Department in return for donations to the family's Clinton Foundation,
which has been justifiably described as a slush fund for Bill and Hillary.
The Clintons have always been about building an empire.
They are the greediest people on Earth. Why give them more by electing her president?

Put national security at risk with her home-brew email system because she feels she's above the law and the rules that everyone else is supposed to live by.

Might have gotten an Iranian nuclear scientist who was apparently spying for the U.S.
executed by the regime in Tehran by mentioning him as "our friend" in her nonsecure email.

Continues to lie. And lie. And lie.

Is looking like the picture of extremely poor health. Some of the claims might be overstated,
but we won't find out the truth from the media because they're too busy protecting her.
And, worse than anything mentioned so far, Clinton feels entitled to be president and craves the raw political power that any tyrant would.
This alone should disqualify her for the presidency. The Oval Office is not a throne room.
If she's elected, America is on the fast track to becoming the Sick Man of the world.

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OBAMA URGES DEMS TO CAMPAIGN AGGRESSIVELY FOR CLINTON
- Dems know Hillary is doing so poorly, Obama even cancels his vacation.

BY DARLENE SUPERVILLE / ASSOCIATED PRESS / Aug 15, 7:16 PM EDT

HILMARK, Mass. (AP) -- Adding a touch of politics to his vacation, President Barack Obama on Monday urged Democrats to campaign aggressively for the next 80 days to elect presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, saying "if we do not do our jobs, then it's still possible for her to lose."
.................Clinton did not join Obama at the fundraiser. Earlier Monday, she made her first campaign appearance with Vice President Joe Biden in his hometown of Scranton, Pennsylvania, a state both she and Trump are competing to win.

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Gun control: the president (as well as municipalities and states) can limit the kinds and amounts of ammunition being sold--which amounts to the same thing.


Trump has made statements supporting the police. Here’s a quote from one of them:
"Well, there is a divide, but I have to say that the police are absolutely mistreated and misunderstood, and if there is an incident, whether it’s an incident done purposely — which is a horror, and you should really take very strong action — or if it is a mistake, it’s on your newscasts all night, all week, all month, and it never ends.

The police in this country have done an unbelievable job of keeping law and order, and they’re afraid for their jobs, they’re afraid of the mistreatment they get, and I’m telling you that not only, me speaking, minorities all over the country, they respect the police of this country and we have to give them more respect.

They can’t act. They can’t act. They’re afraid for losing their pension, their job. They don’t know what to do. And I deal with them all the time. We have to give great respect, far greater than we are right now, to our really fantastic police.”



And see this article from “Mother Jones”--hardly a right wing source. It starts out with this statement and then proceeds to describe his policies: "Donald Trump has been routinely criticized for sharing scant details about the policies he hopes to implement as president. But although he's drawn little attention for it, there is one area where Trump has gotten pretty specific: policing."
We Actually Know a Lot About How Trump Would Handle Policing and Race | Mother Jones

As to your statement:
"Conservatism= fear, hate and prejudice against too many of our fellow Americans, and the time for such fear/hate is I am hoping OVER.”,
I would say much the same about liberalism. Fear/hate--Black Lives matter protesting against saying "all lives matter", police shootings (it goes both ways--see the assassination style shootings of police), rhetoric against Christians, complaints against "micro-aggression”, college campuses refusing to let conservatives give speeches (or shouting them down)--believe me, the list could go on and on...
Yes, I have seen that quote- but nowhere in it (or any other quote) have I seen him suggest a possible fix or policy change- just a bunch of meaningless blather- which he really seems to excel at. Please point out to me where his actual policy is hidden? Much like Waldo, I can't seem to find it.

As for the BLM movement versus "all lives matter'- quite frankly if blacks were treated equally there would not BE a BLM movement. If racial profiling didn't exist and if white supremacy were as dead as it should be we wouldn't be talking about this issue. The point is that Black Lives Matter TOO. White lives have always mattered, more than anyone else. THAT is the problem. Police shootings are tragic, and the killings are the result of the racial bias and frustration present in our inner cities from years of profiling and unfair treatment, coupled with a lack of employment opportunities leading to desperation.

Conservative hate is leveled at anyone different from them- LGBTQ and marriage rights are another prime example. Liberals for the most part are accepting of those who are different.

BLM and LBGTQ rights are about fighting against the hate that has been smothering them (though folks on both sides have been guilty of hateful acts).

There is no war against Christianity- folks just want to have your book not stomp on their personal rights and freedoms. I don't care who/what anyone worships- but don't expect me to believe the same or change how I live to suit your beliefs. To do so is discrimination, pure and simple.
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Your words: "Liberals for the most part are accepting of those who are different."

I live in what is arguably the most Liberal/Progressive community in the US. I have since 1971. I attended Reed College, an incredibly liberal institution, in the height of the hippy days and the war protests. I was a dedicated liberal. Hell... I voted for Eugene McCarthy in '72! It was the intolerance of my liberal contemporaries that fostered my current more conservative leanings..Your comment is so not my experience with the liberal folks in Portland, that in my opinion, it borders on ignorance. Or at the very least, serious naiveté. The Portland liberal community is profound in its display of intolerance towards anyone who won't further their agendas.

Oh,BTW, to state that there is no war on Christianity to day..... Seriously?!?!. And no, I don't consider my self a member of any formal Christian religion.

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Here's a shocker - This from a liberal rag like NEWSWEEK?
- "By Matt Patterson / (Newsweek Columnist -- Opinion Writer)

Years from now, historians may regard the 2008 election of Barack Obama as an inscrutable and phenomenon, the result of a baffling breed of mass hysteria akin perhaps to the witch craze of the Middle Ages. How, they will wonder, did a man so devoid of professional accomplishment beguile so many into thinking he could manage the world's largest economy, direct the world's most powerful military, execute the world's most consequential job?

Imagine a future historian examining Obama's pre-presidential life: ushered into and through the Ivy League, despite unremarkable grades and test scores along the way; a cushy non-job as a "community organizer;" a brief career as a state legislator devoid of legislative achievement (and in fact nearly devoid of his attention, less often did he vote "present"); and finally an unaccomplished single term in the United States Senate, the entirety of which was devoted to his presidential ambitions.

He left no academic legacy in academia, authored no signature legislation as a legislator. And then there is the matter of his troubling associations: the white-hating, America-loathing preacher who for decades served as Obama's "spiritual mentor;" a real-life, actual terrorist who served as Obama's colleague and political sponsor. It is easy to imagine a future historian looking at it all and asking: how on Earth was such a man elected president? There is no evidence that he ever attended or worked for any university or that he ever sat for the Illinois bar. We have no documentation for any of his claims. He may well be the greatest hoax in history.Not content to wait for history, the incomparable Norman Podhoretz addressed the question recently in the Wall Street Journal: To be sure, no white candidate who had close associations with an outspoken hater of America like Jeremiah Wright and an unrepentant terrorist like Bill Ayers, would have lasted a single day.

But because Mr. Obama was black, and therefore entitled in the eyes of liberaldom to have hung out with protesters against various American injustices, even if they were 'a bit' extreme, he was given a pass. Let that Sink in: Obama was given a pass - held to a lower standard because of the color of his skin. Podhoretz continues: And in any case, what did such ancient history matter when he was also so articulate and elegant and (as he himself had said) "non-threatening," all of which gave him a fighting chance to become the first black president and thereby to lay the curse of racism to rest? Podhoretz puts his finger, I think, on the animating pulse of the Obama phenomenon - affirmative action. Not in the legal sense, of course. But certainly in the motivating sentiment behind all affirmative action laws and regulations, which are designed primarily to make white people, and especially white liberals, feel good about themselves. Unfortunately, minorities often suffer so that whites can pat themselves on the back.

Liberals routinely admit minorities to schools for which they are not qualified, yet take no responsibility for the inevitable poor performance and high drop-out rates which follow. Liberals don't care if these minority students fail; liberals aren't around to witness the emotional devastation and deflated self-esteem resulting from the racist policy that is affirmative action. Yes, racist. Holding someone to a separate standard merely because of the color of his skin - that's affirmative action in a nutshell, and if that isn't racism, then nothing is. And that is what America did to Obama. True, Obama himself was never troubled by his lack of achievements, but why would he be? As many have noted, Obama was told he was good enough for Columbia despite undistinguished grades at Occidental; he was told he was good enough for the US Senate despite a mediocre record in Illinois ; he was told he was good enough to be president despite no record at all in the Senate. All his life, every step of the way, Obama was told he was good enough for the next step, in spite of ample evidence to the contrary.

What could this breed if not the sort of empty narcissism on display every time Obama speaks? In 2008, many who agreed that he lacked executive qualifications nonetheless raved about Obama's oratory skills, intellect, and cool character. Those people - conservatives included - ought now to be deeply embarrassed. The man thinks and speaks in the hoariest of cliches, and that's when he has his Teleprompters in front of him; when the prompter is absent he can barely think or speak at all. Not one original idea has ever issued from his mouth - it's all warmed-over Marxism of the kind that has failed over and over again for 100 years. (An example is his 2012 campaign speeches which are almost word for word his 2008 speeches)

And what about his character? Obama is constantly blaming anything and everything else for his troubles. Bush did it; it was bad luck; I inherited this mess. Remember, he wanted the job, campaigned for the task. It is embarrassing to see a president so willing to advertise his own powerless-ness, so comfortable with his own incompetence. (The other day he actually came out and said no one could have done anything to get our economy and country back on track). But really, what were we to expect? The man has never been responsible for anything, so how do we expect him to act responsibly?

In short: our president is a small-minded man, with neither the temperament nor the intellect to handle his job. When you understand that, and only when you understand that, will the current erosion of liberty and prosperity make sense. It could not have gone otherwise with such an impostor in the Oval Office."
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Now they want to let a truth hit the print media. If they would have allowed more truth and honest analysis in their precious propaganda publications early in his first term they may have kept much of this administration more beholding to the American people and not some failed ideology.
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Yes, I have seen that quote- but nowhere in it (or any other quote) have I seen him suggest a possible fix or policy change- just a bunch of meaningless blather- which he really seems to excel at. Please point out to me where his actual policy is hidden? Much like Waldo, I can't seem to find it.

Conservative hate is leveled at anyone different from them- LGBTQ and marriage rights are another prime example. Liberals for the most part are accepting of those who are different.
Read the article I gave above: We Actually Know a Lot About How Trump Would Handle Policing and Race | Mother Jones

It starts like this: "Donald Trump has been routinely criticized for sharing scant details about the policies he hopes to implement as president. But although he's drawn little attention for it, there is one area where Trump has gotten pretty specific: policing”

Before you question the credentials of Mother Jones, "According to Business Insider, Mother Jones is the second most liberal publication in the country, second only to The Nation and it beats out both the far-Left Daily Kos and Salon."

"Liberals for the most part are accepting of those who are different." No way. Haven’t you watched any liberal talk shows or news programs? Perhaps you don’t hear it because you agree with them, but for those of us who aren’t liberal, the bias and hatred are there.

Just a few examples:

1. U.S. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas has been the relentless target of the most vile liberal hatred since his appointment, being viewed as a "race traitor" on account of his conservative views. In 2011, a group of white liberal protesters said on camera that they wanted to "hang him" and "send him back to the fields”.

2. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton referred to a subordinate as a "Jew b*stard.”

3. Barack Obama's pastor and mentor Jeremiah Wright, being asked a question about Obama, said, "Them Jews aren't going to let him talk to me." The story was buried by the liberal-aligned MSM.

4. Extremist Katherine Yurica stated the Republican Party gained power through "Hitlerian tactics", that evangelical leaders from Billy Graham to Jerry Falwell "had to have read Hitler’s Mein Kampf," and that Christians have "fascistic tendencies.”

5. A written response about Vice President Dick Cheney's trip to Afghanistan and an attempt against his life "Better luck next time.”

6. In 2007, White House Press Secretary Tony Snow announced his cancer had returned. Commentators on the left-wing Daily Kos website remarked, "the world would be better off without him.”

7. Condoleezza Rice was the first African-American woman to be Secretary of State. Liberal columnist Ted Rall made a racist cartoon stating her "punishment" was to be sent to a racial re-education camp, and in the process calls her "Bush's beard" and Bush's "house n****”. Other liberal "cartoonists" like Pat Oliphant, for instance, depicted her as a bird with accentuated lips praising her “master” [from conservepedia--but the quotes are listed with their sources--well attested.]

I could go on....

And “All lives matter” is merely a statement that EVERYONE should be treated equally--what in the world is wrong with that?

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Yes, I have seen that quote- but nowhere in it (or any other quote) have I seen him suggest a possible fix or policy change- just a bunch of meaningless blather- which he really seems to excel at. Please point out to me where his actual policy is hidden? Much like Waldo, I can't seem to find it.

The policy change needed is for the feds to stay out of local law enforcement where they have no business.


As for the BLM movement versus "all lives matter'- quite frankly if blacks were treated equally there would not BE a BLM movement. If racial profiling didn't exist and if white supremacy were as dead as it should be we wouldn't be talking about this issue. The point is that Black Lives Matter TOO. White lives have always mattered, more than anyone else. THAT is the problem. Police shootings are tragic, and the killings are the result of the racial bias and frustration present in our inner cities from years of profiling and unfair treatment, coupled with a lack of employment opportunities leading to desperation.


The Black Lives Matter Movement is financed by Billionaire and big government radical George Soros who the Washington Times revealed provided at least $33 million in a single year to far left groups orchestrating protests and unrest in Ferguson, Missouri, and nation wide. Destroying businesses in black neighborhoods is not going to do much to provide jobs for the good folks living there.


Conservative hate is leveled at anyone different from them- LGBTQ and marriage rights are another prime example. Liberals for the most part are accepting of those who are different.

It is not hate to point out harmful life styles. The CDC has done this with listing STDs in the homosexual community. There is nothing wrong with supporting traditional marriage.



BLM and LBGTQ rights are about fighting against the hate that has been smothering them (though folks on both sides have been guilty of hateful acts).

There is no war against Christianity- folks just want to have your book not stomp on their personal rights and freedoms. I don't care who/what anyone worships- but don't expect me to believe the same or change how I live to suit your beliefs. To do so is discrimination, pure and simple.

Want to bet? Christians are murdered around the world by Muslims. In America Christians are condemned for just stating that homosexuality is an unhealthy lifestyle and against their faith, and that so called transgender people are still either male or female, no matter what they think or do. Christians have lost their jobs just for standing their beliefs, even if not on the job. Military Chaplins are told not to pray in the name of Jesus.


In God we trust.


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Donald Trump is far from the perfect candidate, but he is much better than Mrs. Clinton.

Trump will protect our borders; She will not.
Trump will appoint conservative justices to the Supreme Court; She will not.
Trump will support the 2nd Amendment; she will not.
Trump will support our local police; she will not.
Trump will cut taxes and regulations, and support the free market; she will not.
Trump will support our military; she will not.
Trump's border protection involved a supposed wall paid for by Mexico- very much doubt THAT is going to happen. And increased vetting of immigrants, nothing concrete there, just questionaires and stuff to figure out how they feel about America. Yup, that should work...

Yes to the conservative justice, which is why I personally hope he is the loser in the election. Conservatism= fear, hate and prejudice against too many of our fellow Americans, and the time for such fear/hate is I am hoping OVER.

The 2nd Amendment argument is pretty absurd. It takes 2/3 of BOTH houses of Congress to change the Constitution- and then it is sent to the states, 3/4 of which must vote to affirm. Seriously folks- Obama isn't taking your guns, and neither is anybody else. LET IT GO already...

How exactly is Trump going to support police? Never heard him say one whit about them. Or is it that white supremacy is going to return, thus allowing them to continue with the racial profiling and improper training that have led to the current messes? Our police force is currently broken, it is true- but I seriously doubt the deranged cheetoh has any ideas on how to fix it (well, he might have "great ideas" if I "believe him"). But he doesn't, and I don't.

Trump will have tax breaks that benefit TRUMP and other corporate types like him- exactly like Hillary. He also will continue to send his jobs overseas at an alarming rate and pretty much be identical to every other politician you all claim he is so different from. Make America Great Again hats- where are those made again??? Give ya a hint- NOT America.

Trump will help the military- really? The guy who dodged service repeatedly suddenly cares about our folks who SERVE. Nope, sorry- think you are being fed a line here. In fact, the Republican record for troop support is pretty piss poor except when it comes to sending our troops to fight.

Once they return broken, damaged, jobless and homeless it seems like that support dries right up. Examples are many but include Veterans Affairs Funding Bill (2015), Women Vet & Families Health Services Act (2014), Homeless Women Veterans and Homeless Vets with Children Act (2010), etc.. all KILLED by GOP due to cost. Send em to fight and hope they don't come back seems to be the motto, sadly...
Dobermama every time you talk you spurt out a bunch of uninformed crap from your mouth. I really believe you were just raised democratic and probably haven't watched the first bit of politics this year. Trump has made comments on supporting our police many, many times. Nearly every time he speaks. Broken police? You are so dilusional. You need to move into one of these big cities with black lives matters and see what the "broken system" is dealing with. Black shooting are up a very small percentage while the shooting of cops is up an astronomical number.

People like you out protesting and shooting cops because a cop shoots a gun toting black criminal with a arrest record a mile long. Sickening. And even more so that you obviously agree with it. This "broken system" would be the first to your aid if it was needed. I wish someone would revoke your internet privileges so I didn't have to see your posts and almost stroke out due to anger.

I could care less about your political stance but your stance towards the people that protect and serve for very little pay might I add is just plain disgusting.
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And these inner cities and there problems have nothing to do with police. But everything to do with lazy, welfare gathering blacks who want a hand out and want to blame all the drugs and problems on the whites holding them back. Give me a break, there is no holding back anymore. I'd say the opposite actually. Companies HAVE to hire blacks and promote them due to laws and fear of retaliation. No such thing for whites. Blacks get a month of there own. If we asked for a white month, we would be pigs and monsters.

Plain and simple get up, get a job and get yourself out of your bad situation. I grew up poor and was handed nothing. Heck, I remember nights where my single mom didn't eat so that I could. Did I join a gang? Did I sell drugs? Did I blame my hard times on the white man and my bad living conditions? Absolutely not. I went to school, got a job, and made a good life for myself. There problems are exactly that. There problems and there's to fix. But you would suggest more of my paycheck be taken to help them out.

You have ignored all of the TRUE statistics posted on this thread. More whites killed by cops each year, 90% of blacks are killed by another black and so on and so on. It's just easier for a liberal to blame it on the oppressive white man. Get yourself a plane to Africa where you can help the black culture. A one way ticket please.
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I really am trying. The politics don't fire me up. Everyone has beliefs and opinions and I respect that. This persons hatred of police and blaming them for our falling inner cities is complete BS though. If there was an emergency or break in, I bet my life she wouldn't hesitate to dial 911 and let the crooked first responders help her or her family.

Sure there have been some questionable uses of force by cops lately. White and black alike. I'm sure the blatant use of excessive force will be tried and punished. It's due to tensions and growing violence, and the media painting the picture of cops are out to kill. These cops now know they are being hunted so it will get worse. They have seconds to make a decision that could decide whether they ever see family again.
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Hillary ....... couldn't fill Cleveland High Gym off trail till Sunday

REST TIME? No more public events for Hillary until Sunday

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/res...illary-sunday/

Hillary Clinton just wrapped up her one public appearance for the day, and she has nothing else scheduled until Sunday.

With 83 days to go, what’s she doing for the next 96 hours?

She just held a rally in Cleveland, Ohio, where she struggled to fill a high school gymnasium — if it wasn’t for hundreds of students.

But according to the schedule tracking website HillarySpeeches.com, she doesn’t have another event announced until Sunday, when she’ll make a Massachusetts fundraising appearance with Cher.

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Wiki Leak Email Found Showing Secret Memo To Obama From ISIS


Barack Hussein Obama and Hillary Clinton continue to act clueless when it comes to ISIS. They act clueless about when they formed, where they are today, and how can we defeat them. They are lazy, but they are also severely incompetent.

Last week, Donald Trump asserted that Hillary Clinton and Obama “founded ISIS.” Trump didn’t literally mean they sat down and discussed how to create this group from scratch–or did he?

Trump’s statement is 100% accurate, and a leaked memo from the State Department proves it to be true!

Barack Hussein Obama and Hillary Clinton continue to act clueless when it comes to ISIS. They act clueless about when they formed, where they are today, and how can we defeat them. They are lazy, but they are also severely incompetent.

Last week, Donald Trump asserted that Hillary Clinton and Obama “founded ISIS.” Trump didn’t literally mean they sat down and discussed how to create this group from scratch–or did he?

Trump’s statement is 100% accurate, and a leaked memo from the State Department proves it to be true!
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Another Surprise From Assange Linking Hillary To ISIS

A month ago, it was released that Hillary Clinton received classified intelligence stating that Obama was supporting Al Qaeda in Iraq (AQI), the group that changed their name to ISIS. So, Obama is the founder of ISIS, and Hillary quickly became the co-captain of this dangerous team in 2012.

The leaked memo made it abundantly clear that AQI used Muhammad Al Adnani as their spokesman. Guess what, he is now the spokesman for ISIS. Barack Hussein Obama was literally paying them money! This is not even close to a joke or a theory. The leaked memo proves it to be factual.

Obama’s plan was to support the terrorist group until they overthrew Syrian dictator Bashar al Assad. Toppling dictators and supporting terrorist groups has NEVER worked, but Hillary continues to think so. She was a heavy proponent of this idea. Keep that point in mind.

In an August 2012 “SECRET” classified memo made its way to Hillary Clinton AND Obama.


BOOM: Wikileaks Confirms Hillary Sold Weapons To ISIS

http://endingthefed.com/boom-wikilea...s-to-isis.html

Although Hillary Clinton has repeatedly denied that she sold weapons to the Islamic Stats while serving as Secretary of State, Wikileaks founder Julian Assange claims he has proof to the contrary.

Thepoliticalinsider.com reported: In Obama’s second term, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton authorized the shipment of American-made arms to Qatar, a country beholden to the Muslim Brotherhood, and friendly to the Libyan rebels, in an effort to topple the Libyan/Gaddafi government, and then ship those arms to Syria in order to fund Al Qaeda, and topple Assad in Syria.

Clinton took the lead role in organizing the so-called “Friends of Syria” (aka Al Qaeda/ISIS) to back the CIA-led insurgency for regime change in Syria.

Under oath Hillary Clinton denied she knew about the weapons shipments during public testimony in early 2013 after the Benghazi terrorist attack.

In an interview with Democracy Now, Wikileaks’ Julian Assange is now stating that 1,700 emails contained in the Clinton cache directly connect Hillary to Libya to Syria, and directly to Al Qaeda and ISIS.
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dobermama has been quiet lately. Could she be realizing that Mrs Clinton is a total fraud, or is just licking her wounds?


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Not a chance. Some will vote Hillary even Hillary gets on TV and announces that she is a lying fraud. Hillary could be filmed marching with Isis and the die hard dems would still vote for her.
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A Harley Biker is riding by the zoo in Washington, DC when he sees a little girl leaning into the lion's cage. Suddenly, the lion grabs her by the collar of her jacket and tries to pull her inside to slaughter her, under the eyes of her screaming parents. The biker jumps off his Harley, runs to the cage and hits the lion square on the nose with a powerful punch. Whimpering from the pain the lion jumps back letting go of the girl, and the biker brings the girl to her terrified parents, who thank him endlessly. A reporter has watched the whole event.

The reporter addressing the Harley rider says, “Sir, this was the most gallant and bravest thing I've seen a man do in my whole life.”

The Harley rider replies, “Why, it was nothing, really. The lion was behind bars. I just saw this little kid in danger, and acted as I felt right.”

The reporter says, “Well, I'll make sure this won't go unnoticed. I'm a journalist, you know, and tomorrow's paper will have this story on the front page. So, what do you do for a living, and what political affiliation do you have?”

The biker replies "I'm a U.S. Marine, a Republican and I’m voting for Trump."


The journalist leaves.

The following morning the biker buys the paper to see if it indeed brings news of his actions, and reads, on the front page:
U.S. MARINE ASSAULTS AFRICAN IMMIGRANT & STEALS HIS LUNCH
And THAT pretty much sums up the media's approach to the news these days!

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HILLARY CLINTON GOES TO A GIFTED-STUDENT PRIMARY SCHOOL IN NEW YORK TO TALK ABOUT THE WORLD.
AFTER HER TALK SHE OFFERS QUESTION TIME.
ONE LITTLE BOY PUTS UP HIS HAND. HILLARY ASKS HIM WHAT HIS NAME IS.
"KENNETH," HE SAYS.
"AND WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION, KENNETH ?" SHE ASKS.
"I HAVE THREE QUESTIONS," HE SAYS.
"FIRST -- WHATEVER HAPPENED IN BENGHAZI ?
"SECOND -- WHY WOULD YOU RUN FOR PRESIDENT IF YOU ARE NOT CAPABLE OF HANDLING TWO E-MAIL ACCOUNTS ?
"AND, THIRD -- WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE MISSING SIX BILLION DOLLARS WHILE YOU WERE SECRETARY OF STATE ?"

JUST THEN THE BELL RINGS FOR RECESS.
HILLARY INFORMS THE KIDDIES THAT THEY WILL CONTINUE AFTER RECESS.
WHEN THEY RESUME HILLARY SAYS,
"OKAY, WHERE WERE WE ? OH, THAT'S RIGHT, QUESTION TIME.
WHO HAS A QUESTION ?"

A DIFFERENT BOY -- LITTLE JOHNNY -- PUTS HIS HAND UP.
HILLARY POINTS TO HIM AND ASKS HIM WHAT HIS NAME IS.
"JOHNNY," HE SAYS.
"AND WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION, JOHNNY ?" SHE ASKS.
"I HAVE FIVE QUESTIONS," HE SAYS.
"FIRST -- WHATEVER HAPPENED IN BENGHAZI ?
"SECOND -- WHY WOULD YOU RUN FOR PRESIDENT IF YOU ARE NOT CAPABLE OF HANDLING TWO E-MAIL ACCOUNTS ?
"THIRD -- WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE MISSING SIX BILLION DOLLARS WHILE YOU WERE SECRETARY OF STATE ?
"FOURTH -- WHY DID THE RECESS BELL GO OFF 20 MINUTES EARLY ?
"AND, FIFTH -- WHERE'S KENNETH ?
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Sorry to disappoint y'all. Was actually on vacation and had better things to do...

DBrown, just for the record I was raised REPUBLICAN. Left the party for Libertarian a few years back when the GOP started getting more and more socially whacko. Have never been, and am not now a Democrat- sorry to disappoint!

GreyGhost- not licking wounds, just have a life- and have already repeatedly mentioned that I do NOT like Clinton in any way, shape or form- she has my vote because there is not another reasonable choice. I find the far right's mindless adherence to Faux News as factual as equally laughable as you find my "leftist" views (further ironic, as I am NOT a Dem, but hey- who cares about facts?)..

I interject in this forum because I enjoy seeing how the minds of conservatives work (or don't as the case may be...). I keep up on both sides of the spectrum with my news and occasionally lose my temper when I see obvious hate speech and rampant bigotry- so feel compelled to rebuff... I do realize the futility of it, but it is VERY hard when all I see is false "facts" or rhetoric straight from conservative shock jocks.

And it pains me to see all of the pro-Trumping, when to ANYONE with reason- he is a psychotic cheetoh. Cannot put together a coherent sentence "believe me", and just spouts whatever stupid nonsense comes to mind while also apparently accumulating his wealth by refusing to pay his bills and building up huge debts he has no desire to repay. Even your own party has reasonable folks (like the Bush clan) who refuse to support him.

I hold no illusions whatsoever about being able to change ANY of the mindsets here- but feel you NEED to see "the other side of the coin", whether you wish to or not. There are MANY of us out there- reasonable, normal, ex Republicans who loathe what the GOP has become. We are NOT religious, we ARE socially progressive, and we are logical, reasonable folks with quite often science based backgrounds. We refuse to be fed the propaganda of the media- and instead choose to research BOTH sides to any given information.

And DBrown- I do NOT protest cops, but I DO believe the problems we are having stem from the broken police system. The motto is "protect and serve"- not divide and harm. Too many of our forces are corrupt, improperly trained and employing tactics (like racial profiling) that encourage violence and hatred. I support blue lives matter- but am not so foolish as to think they are without fault. Even their own ranks AGREE with me!
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Have you seen any of Trump’s policy speeches? They are serious and rational--though one may not agree with his ideas. I don’t know that he actually wrote the speeches, but he is willing to repeat them. Actually, most politicians don’t write their own speeches, they just tell their writers what their policies are, review what is written, change a few words and go on stage.

I just cannot STAND Hillary. The adjectives one can apply to her are out there, so I won’t repeat them here. But I despise the corruption that runs hand in hand with whatever the Clintons touch.

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You really believe all the illegal stuff she did with her email is "faked" come on her only defense is Nope it was all ok.

The emails are out there and if you or I had done that we would be in jail.




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DBrown, just for the record I was raised REPUBLICAN. Left the party for Libertarian a few years back when the GOP started getting more and more socially whacko. Have never been, and am not now a Democrat- sorry to disappoint!

GreyGhost- not licking wounds, just have a life- and have already repeatedly mentioned that I do NOT like Clinton in any way, shape or form- she has my vote because there is not another reasonable choice. I find the far right's mindless adherence to Faux News as factual as equally laughable as you find my "leftist" views (further ironic, as I am NOT a Dem, but hey- who cares about facts?)..

I interject in this forum because I enjoy seeing how the minds of conservatives work (or don't as the case may be...). I keep up on both sides of the spectrum with my news and occasionally lose my temper when I see obvious hate speech and rampant bigotry- so feel compelled to rebuff... I do realize the futility of it, but it is VERY hard when all I see is false "facts" or rhetoric straight from conservative shock jocks.

And it pains me to see all of the pro-Trumping, when to ANYONE with reason- he is a psychotic cheetoh. Cannot put together a coherent sentence "believe me", and just spouts whatever stupid nonsense comes to mind while also apparently accumulating his wealth by refusing to pay his bills and building up huge debts he has no desire to repay. Even your own party has reasonable folks (like the Bush clan) who refuse to support him.

I hold no illusions whatsoever about being able to change ANY of the mindsets here- but feel you NEED to see "the other side of the coin", whether you wish to or not. There are MANY of us out there- reasonable, normal, ex Republicans who loathe what the GOP has become. We are NOT religious, we ARE socially progressive, and we are logical, reasonable folks with quite often science based backgrounds. We refuse to be fed the propaganda of the media- and instead choose to research BOTH sides to any given information.

And DBrown- I do NOT protest cops, but I DO believe the problems we are having stem from the broken police system. The motto is "protect and serve"- not divide and harm. Too many of our forces are corrupt, improperly trained and employing tactics (like racial profiling) that encourage violence and hatred. I support blue lives matter- but am not so foolish as to think they are without fault. Even their own ranks AGREE with me!
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