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I specifically want to address this separate from my ear cropping convo.. if ok..
so my Morticia has been under weight for awhile.. we seemed to get her back to a good weight.. not where she should be but gaining weight.. but now we are back to an obvious issue again of being skinny.

So today I noticed once again she’s looking kinda boney.. she’s clearly way taller than last week.. for sure is growing taller fast but her weight doesn’t seem to follow.

So I have switched her from a large breed kibble to raw.. two days now and wondering if this has any influence to the current weight issue?
I give her a good amount but she’s skinny..

We are seeing her vet on Friday for her next shots etc and will know what she weighs.. but it’s super obvious she’s not where she should be!

Any suggestions on how to help her plump up a little?!

She poops less now with raw.. the was a poop machine with kibble. So I feel maybe it’s good she poops less maybe her body is taking it all in? Haha I could be wrong! This is all new for me! Yes I’ve owned other breeds of dogs with no weight issues.. I have had a lot of cats.. currently 4!! I’m not new at caring for pets BUT she’s my first dobie.. and I am trying to do my best to care for her!!

Leaning on all of you to reach in and help this sweetheart gain some weight and catch up!! I know you guys have so much info... and thanks in advance!

If it helps.. she is super active, and very happy.. and she’s been able to finally play in our backyard as it’s not raining for the moment.. but I doubt the exercise is the reason for her being skinny... just throwing it out there!!

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This is an old thread but alot of folks chimed in on their pups age and weight...you might find this interesting. Click on the link above......then click on the link that opens .

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Good morning M-D ! I guess the first question is what makes you think she is so under weight ? Can you post up some pictures ?

With ours - You can see a shadow of there ribs - Now with both Kasia and Ali - you could see more ribs - Mr. Business is a little more plumb - Lack of exercise outside this winter - But in the past week - I can see he has lost some weight .

They use a lot of energy and that keeps them in shape - so to speak - The only thing that pop's into my mind as to why a dog does not put on wait is worms - Which you take her to the Vet - So find that hard to believe she has them .

I would much rather have a Doberman or any dog on the lighter side of weight than over weight .

Like you said - your going to the Vet soon and he's the one to talk to about your concerns . As long as she is eating well and feeling well - drinks well and playful - I don't think I would worry till you get answers from the Vet .

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This is an old thread but alot of folks chimed in on their pups age and weight...you might find this interesting. Click on the link above......then click on the link that opens .
So funny that you posted this for me!! Because I had googled my question before posting here and found that thread haha!! Thanks so much!
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Good morning M-D ! I guess the first question is what makes you think she is so under weight ? Can you post up some pictures ?

With ours - You can see a shadow of there ribs - Now with both Kasia and Ali - you could see more ribs - Mr. Business is a little more plumb - Lack of exercise outside this winter - But in the past week - I can see he has lost some weight .

They use a lot of energy and that keeps them in shape - so to speak - The only thing that pop's into my mind as to why a dog does not put on wait is worms - Which you take her to the Vet - So find that hard to believe she has them .

I would much rather have a Doberman or any dog on the lighter side of weight than over weight .

Like you said - your going to the Vet soon and he's the one to talk to about your concerns . As long as she is eating well and feeling well - drinks well and playful - I don't think I would worry till you get answers from the Vet .

Best of luck and keep us all updated

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Thanks so much Doc!!

So she laid down while I was posting and she seemed sooooo skinny!! Then looked when she stood back up and was thinking she looks very thin!

Yes she goes in two days so I’m going to address this concern! I’ll also try and get a picture later! I just see other pix of dobies her age or around her age and that’s why I’m thinking she’s under by a good amount!

If a dog has worms.. you see it in their poop right? If so I haven’t seen any. I appreciate your thoughts on weight! And puts my mind at ease! I just love to ask Incase I’m not doing something right for my girl!

Thanks so much again!!
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Extremely great minds think alike.......!!

See if you can get some full body PICs maybe outside with sun shining on her ribs etc.....
Someplace where the light is real good.....
Shoot.....I forget what area you reside in.......

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Extremely great minds think alike.......!!

See if you can get some full body PICs maybe outside with sun shining on her ribs etc.....
Someplace where the light is real good.....
Shoot.....I forget what area you reside in.......
Haha!! I’m in Northern California.. Santa Rosa.. Bay Area!

Yes I will try later for sure
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These were two days ago but can’t really tell! I’ll take some later!
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Some worms are microscopic - But like I said - You need to talk to your Vet as I am not around her or see her and I'm Not a Vet .

I think you would know if she was wormy -

Always feel free to ask questions here - That is how people learn : )

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Some worms are microscopic - But like I said - You need to talk to your Vet as I am not around her or see her and I'm Not a Vet .

I think you would know if she was wormy -

Always feel free to ask questions here - That is how people learn : )

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Thanks so much! I’m full of questions for her vet! So I’ll be asking!
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Some worms look like little pieces of rice in their poop........Yum!!!!!!!

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"If it helps.. she is super active, and very happy.. and she’s been able to finally play in our backyard as it’s not raining for the moment.. but I doubt the exercise is the reason for her being skinny... just throwing it out there!!"

You also say her poop is not that abnormal. If she checks out fecally(?) at the vet , i would not worry to much. I am not sure if you know her parentage but that would be the biggest clue. Happy playful pup is what you want.
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In the photo I cannot tell that she is thin. I don't see rib nor backbone protruding. I think you have a lighter boned Doberman. Probably the lines she came from? Did you see her dam and sire?
Feeding raw will put weight on slower, but makes housebreaking so much easier. Not only less stool, but less smell and easier to clean up the firmer, small stool. I hope you can stay with it.

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In the photo I cannot tell that she is thin. I don't see rib nor backbone protruding. I think you have a lighter boned Doberman. Probably the lines she came from? Did you see her dam and sire?
Feeding raw will put weight on slower, but makes housebreaking so much easier. Not only less stool, but less smell and easier to clean up the firmer, small stool. I hope you can stay with it.
I’m super dedicated to the raw now!! No way am I going back!! She loves it and so many options and so healthy... plus I know what’s going in her not all the extra stuff they put in kibble!!

Good to know it puts weight in slower and totally has made the poddy situation easier she hasn’t been going poddy much in her crate which was a huge problem!!

And yes I actually bought her from a friend so was able to see both.. and also the friend has sent me some photos of her siblings lol!! I actually have a picture of both let me find them!

So much great info I’m so happy there is a place like this to talk to other dobie people lol!

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oh thx - it's nice to see those. Hard to tell, but they may have that lighter bone than I am used to seeing in most Dobermans.
I wouldn't worry to much how fast she gains, as long as she is healthy and I can tell how much you want to do things right by her.
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Since you seem to like advice and take it so well, I wanted to point out her nails. Be sure and keep them short. A dremel is the
best to use and the sooner you get them used to it the easier it will be.

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oh thx - it's nice to see those. Hard to tell, but they may have that lighter bone than I am used to seeing in most Dobermans.
I wouldn't worry to much how fast she gains, as long as she is healthy and I can tell how much you want to do things right by her.
You're a good Dobe mom.
Since you seem to like advice and take it so well, I wanted to point out her nails. Be sure and keep them short. A dremel is the
best to use and the sooner you get them used to it the easier it will be.
Trying to do everything the best way for my girl!! I bought one the week she came home!! I tried using it (the dremel) but she obviously didn’t care for it.. I do turn it on while holding her and even put it in my nail to show her it’s ok haha!!

I used nail cutter on her but hit a quick and was a little nervous to do it again! So when I take her in Friday I’m having them trim them for me u til I can get her used to the dremel!!

She has that vWD blood thing.. I was told the morning of her surgery.. so now even more worried to cause any bleeding! But yes.. her nails are long! We feel them when she scratches us!! Lol
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Yes great idea to just massage the toes......fiddle with them when you are just snuggling.
Over time they get used to having their toes messed with.
Certain you know this already but must be careful to not cut to short ......they have such a good memory.
When you go to the vet ask them to teach you how to do the nails..... they will show you the lowest part of the apex (within the curve of the nail) and some handy techniques of how to hold pup during this nail trimming process.
Hoss gets his nails done frequently......I just clip little bit ...little bit...........a few times per week.
Dremels get hot from friction if they stay onto the nail to long........
so just a second or two.....lift up......another second or two ...lift up the dremel............you will master this also ......in time.

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Yes great idea to just massage the toes......fiddle with them when you are just snuggling.
Over time they get used to having their toes messed with.
Certain you know this already but must be careful to not cut to short ......they have such a good memory.
When you go to the vet ask them to teach you how to do the nails..... they will show you the lowest part of the apex (within the curve of the nail) and some handy techniques of how to hold pup during this nail trimming process.
Hoss gets his nails done frequently......I just clip little bit ...little bit...........a few times per week.
Dremels get hot from friction if they stay onto the nail to long........
so just a second or two.....lift up......another second or two ...lift up the dremel............you will master this also ......in time.
Great idea to ask the vet! They told me she has long quicks! I’m like.. oh of course she does! haha
I do mess with her toes a lot and wash her paws alot because she steps in pee!! Don’t want that tracked around the house!
She didn’t mind it when I cut them the time I did. She was 8 weeks but then I let the vet do it!

I’d like to use the dremel and watched alot of YouTube videos! But I know it’s going to take some time!! She does well when I post and mess with her ears I think she will let me mess with her toes.. she trusts me ❤️

Clipping a tiny amount often sounds great! They grow so fast!!

You always have such great tips for me lady di!! Thanks so much!
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We started slowly with our dogs. One nail at a time and you don't have to take much off at first, maybe just the sharp point and immediately verbal praise and a tasty treat.
Work into it slowly.

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She looks maybe a bit thin, but not skinny. You can always have a blood panel done, as well as (another?) fecal.

She looks to be somewhat fine boned, and neither her sire nor dam look to be heavy boned dogs.

As for the nails, check out this online cooperative care class starting April 1st. One of the things discussed is nail care. https://www.fenzidogsportsacademy.co...p/courses/2392

And if you haven't already done it, do the DNA test for vWD. It is more accurate than the in-office test your vet did.


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We started slowly with our dogs. One nail at a time and you don't have to take much off at first, maybe just the sharp point and immediately verbal praise and a tasty treat.
Work into it slowly.
Great idea! And always I stay with the verbal praise and treats!!! Lots of kisses and love!! Then she nips at my cheeks!! It’s a whole thing haha!!
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She looks maybe a bit thin, but not skinny. You can always have a blood panel done, as well as (another?) fecal.

She looks to be somewhat fine boned, and neither her sire nor dam look to be heavy boned dogs.

As for the nails, check out this online cooperative care class starting April 1st. One of the things discussed is nail care. https://www.fenzidogsportsacademy.co...p/courses/2392

And if you haven't already done it, do the DNA test for vWD. It is more accurate than the in-office test your vet did.
Thanks for the info! Going to check it out!

And yes someone had told me about the DNA for vWD.. I will be doing it as soon as I have the cash.. I would like to know 100%

The mouth test morning of surgery was done at a different vet then her primary.. I trust her primary a whole lot more with it all!

And yes looking at her parents I’m thinking they are smaller than others.. when I saw them in person they were eating!! It much time with them that day!
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Thanks for the info! Going to check it out!

And yes someone had told me about the DNA for vWD.. I will be doing it as soon as I have the cash.. I would like to know 100%

The mouth test morning of surgery was done at a different vet then her primary.. I trust her primary a whole lot more with it all!

And yes looking at her parents I’m thinking they are smaller than others.. when I saw them in person they were eating!! It much time with them that day!
If all they did was a Buccal Mucosal Bleeding Time test, then that is definitely not accurate for saying whether or not a dog has vWD, as there are a lot of other things that can cause a dog to have a slow clotting time, including parasites and some medications.

If the did an ELISA test, they measured the amount of vWD factor that was currently in the bloodstream. Again, not a completely accurate test as to whether not not a dog is genetically affected.
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