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Ears Freshly Cropped

I would love some advice. My 10 week old doberman just got his ears cropped yesterday. They were starting to scan up nicely then he started playing as normal. They both started bleeding again. I don't see any popped stiches. The edges are exposed and they are tapped to a cup. The cropping vet was very highly recommended. My main question is bleeding normal and when will it stop?
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Guys please give some advice. How much bleeding is normal and for how long??
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He probably just bumped into something and opened it up a little bit so unless it's the whole ear edge bleeding I wouldn't be too concerned.
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He probably just bumped into something and opened it up a little bit so unless it's the whole ear edge bleeding I wouldn't be too concerned.
Ok great thanks. He's very active so I'm concerned if he keeps causing it to bleed it won't heal properly.
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I wouldn't worry too much if they were just cropped yesterday. Just keep an eye on them to check for swelling or oozing. And let's see a pic of that pup!
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[QUOTE=CRDobe;4128959]I wouldn't worry too much if they were just cropped yesterday. Just keep an eye on them to check for swelling or oozing. And let's see a pic of that pup![/QUOTE

Thank you very much! Just a worried momma over here!
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Chopper at 9 weeks before crop.
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You might consider putting a clean large tube sock over the cup/ears. It allows them to breathe but protects the healing ear edges too. You will need to cut up the ankle part of the sock to about where the heel is on each side (if you're laying it flat on it's side) and this gives you two tabs that you can tie under his chin.

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You might consider putting a clean large tube sock over the cup/ears. It allows them to breathe but protects the healing ear edges too. You will need to cut up the ankle part of the sock to about where the heel is on each side (if you're laying it flat on it's side) and this gives you two tabs that you can tie under his chin.


Wow that's a great suggestion thanks!
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You can also pin it to the back of the cup like in my picture. Just pull the extra material under his chin on each side then around to the back behind his neck and pin both ends through the part of the sock that's covering the cone.
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Love that name “Chopper”.......

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So Chopper is still causing his ears to bleed a bit. Seems like once a day. He either plays too rough or rubs against something. They scab up again and it's not gushing blood. But I'm concerned they shouldn't still be bleeding as we are on day 5. I do have an inflatable collar but this seems to agitate him so much more. Should I be concerned, thoughts, advice?
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No I didn't try the sock bc I'm worried it will make him thrash his head around more...
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It works well and some breeders do it on all their puppies when the ears are up on cups, and all those puppies are running around together.
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Did your vet mention whether he bled more than usual during the cropping procedure?
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No she didn't mention if he bled more than normal.
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Well you have a suggestion for something that would help and I hope you try it. Good luck.
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I was also going to ask the direction I think Mel is going. Do you know his vWD status?


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If he's banging around playing and/or actively rubbing his ears against things I don't think it's going to be a matter of him being a vWD affected puppy (but I'd still want to know what his genetic status is) but if he's just scraping the scabs off--that's why he's still getting bleeding at those places--and it's why vets and many of us tell newbies to ear cropping to NOT pick the scabs off--they'll fall off when the tissue beneath the scab is healed.

If you think he's playing too rough--is he playing by himself or with you or with another dog. Most puppies learn the very first time they bang a newly cropped ear into something and it HURTS to be more careful of the ears. Most puppies, when they rub their ears on things, scrape a scab off on whatever they were rubbing their ear on learn that it HURTS.

Both of those things will cause bleeding. But there are exceptions to every rule and if you have a puppy play so hard with another puppy or another dog I'd stop that until his ears heal--and every time he scrapes a scab off it'll delay healing. I wouldn't use one of the rubber donuts because the chances are he'll still try rubbing his ears on stuff (and for the record all of my puppies hated the donut more than even the cone of shame and I never used either on a puppy with newly cropped ears.

IF the ears scab up again where a scab got scraped off and don't continue to bleed for hours but only for minutes I'd say that it is more related to the puppy's activity level than to the possiblity of being vWD Affected and a clinical bleeder.

There isn't an absolute answer about how long "normal" is when it comes to ear edges on a cropped ear. And some puppy's are clueless and don't learn from banging into things and scraping off scabs--most do though. So it sounds like something else might be going on.

At this point maybe you've noticed something that would be a further clue.

And of course the other thing that I can tell you is that ears even on grown dogs bleed when scraped hard enough to puncture the skin or are dumb enough (like one of mine) to try to look into the heart of a rose bush when he saw a bird disappear into one--he got a thorn puncture in one ear which I didn't notice and when I saw him trying to extract the bird from the bush I brought him in--he followed me back to the bedroom where I was doing something. He shook his head, just once, it it looked like I'd been slaughtering something--he spattered blood on two out of four walls, himself and me.

So, I don't know for sure what's happening with your puppy but if he isn't learning by himself that banging his ears around maybe he shouldn't be playing any time he's out of your sight.

Good luck--like I said--puppy's are pills--I've always thought they spend their nights dreaming up ways to scare their owners to death.

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Ah Bug, this needs to go in a puppy care book somewhere.

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No I didn't try the sock bc I'm worried it will make him thrash his head around more...
I used the "sock". like greenkouki suggested, on my now 5 1/2 yo boy after he came home from his breeder wearing one. She sent me home with 2 more to put on over his cup so I had spares to wash in between postings.

I will never post a Dobe again without using clean white athletic socks to cover it's cup should he come to with a cup from the ear cropper or breeder. It kept everything so much more protected and sanitary.

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