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Ear posting question... tape?

Brilliant tutorial Zephyr thanks

Would this work for posting?

Mcree Pack of 8 Non-Woven Self Adhesive Wrap Bandages, Strong Elastic Self Adherent Cohesive Tape Bandages Rolls https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07CZDBY..._JakWCbK8GGCVV

One of Axels ears is already standing but the other still flops so we will need to post for a while once he arrives. He is 17 weeks


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That looks a lot like a self-stick version of vet wrap--it is advertised as being elastic?
The elastic bandages are what we do NOT recommend, because it is easy to pull it too tight, especially if you're not familiar with the product, and it can also have a tendency to tighten up when it gets wet. Either way can really hurt the ears if it cuts off circulation to the ear-tips.

With any of the tapes, the idea is to wrap them around the ears somewhat loosely (or at least not snug) around the ears and then squish the tape together with your hand so that it sticks enough to stay on, but won't be too tight.

I use Johnson and Johnson tape...what they call "coaches tape" in the US (sports or athletic tape); it's flexible, easy to tear lengthwise so you can adjust the width, but not stretchy.

Zonas is one I see recommended here by everyone...I'm just a little too disorganized to get out there and try to find it. I think you often have to go online to order it, and for some reason, it seems like I run low on tape on Saturday night and need it ASAP. I gather it is more expensive?

Anyway, since I've not used it, I don't know what the differences are and why folks prefer one over the other. Maybe someone else will chime in.
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Brilliant tutorial Zephyr thanks

Would this work for posting?

Mcree Pack of 8 Non-Woven Self Adhesive Wrap Bandages, Strong Elastic Self Adherent Cohesive Tape Bandages Rolls https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07CZDBY..._JakWCbK8GGCVV

One of Axels ears is already standing but the other still flops so we will need to post for a while once he arrives. He is 17 weeks


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No, you don't want that. It's vet wrap.

Take a look at GK's thread here: https://www.dobermantalk.com/ear-cro...acker-rod.html. It's basically an updated version of this sticky. Get zonas tape or "coach" tape, if you can find that...I'm not sure if it'll be called the same thing over there. Basically a low-tack tape, not too sticky.


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This stuff?
ZONAS Porous Tape - 1 wide x 10 Yards roll (Pack of 2 Rolls)" https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00N56V7..._l0kWCbT7NW5HC



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Would this work for posting?

Mcree Pack of 8 Non-Woven Self Adhesive Wrap Bandages, Strong Elastic Self Adherent Cohesive Tape Bandages Rolls https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07CZDBY..._JakWCbK8GGCVV
Any time you see "Cohesive" as part of a description of a tape you DON'T want to use it for ears.

Vet Wrap is a brand name for this sort of tape by 3M--they were the first to manufacture it. These types of tape stick only to themselves and not to skin or hair (coat) and all of them can backfire easily--if stretched while being applied they can and will shrink if they get damp and if stretched a lot will shrink just because. Their original purpose was for shipping things like expensive horses where the legs were typically wrapped and bandaged. Since there was a thick layer of bandage between the leg and the Vet Wrap it did no harm if it shrank--if fact the fact that it did was what made it ideal to keep leg bandaging in place for shipping.

Mel--Johnson and Johnson Coach (or it's newest labeling is Sport) Athletic tape is virtually identical to the Johnson and Johnson Zonas tape. You can almost always get Zonas tape from a vet clinic (most of them use Zonas for bandaging but if you do that it'll be much more e4xpensive than ordering it on-line from almost anyplace unless you are ordering from a medical supply house and even then the shipping is a killer. J & J Coach (or Sport) tape always seems to be available in this country at Walgreen, Walmart, other big drug stores and some pharmacies will special order it for you by the box.

What makes these tapes significantly different than other tapes (and by the way--I work for a vet clinic and get anything we use at a pretty good discounts but I still by the J & J Coach (Sport) tape--for one thing I can get it in 1-1/2" which I split to make 3/4" tape--Zonas which you used to be able to get in 1/4", 1/2", 3/4", 1", 2", 3" and 4" now you can only get 1", 2", and 4" I believe. Zonas and the Coach or Sport tape are low tack (not very sticky--which makes them easier to remove) breathable tapes.

Some of the sports type tapes or athletic tapes are suitable for ear taping--but buy the kind that are designed for taping wrists or ankles NOT the kind that are used for taping things like Hockey sticks, baseball bats etc. Those tapes tend to be very sticky and often are much thicker than the other types of sports tapes.

And I'd guess that you could contact 3M and ask them if they sell an equivalent to Zonas or the Coach/Sports tapes in England and what it is called over there.

There is more and anyone ever wanted to know about ear tape I bet.

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Any time you see "Cohesive" as part of a description of a tape you DON'T want to use it for ears.



Vet Wrap is a brand name for this sort of tape by 3M--they were the first to manufacture it. These types of tape stick only to themselves and not to skin or hair (coat) and all of them can backfire easily--if stretched while being applied they can and will shrink if they get damp and if stretched a lot will shrink just because. Their original purpose was for shipping things like expensive horses where the legs were typically wrapped and bandaged. Since there was a thick layer of bandage between the leg and the Vet Wrap it did no harm if it shrank--if fact the fact that it did was what made it ideal to keep leg bandaging in place for shipping.



Mel--Johnson and Johnson Coach (or it's newest labeling is Sport) Athletic tape is virtually identical to the Johnson and Johnson Zonas tape. You can almost always get Zonas tape from a vet clinic (most of them use Zonas for bandaging but if you do that it'll be much more e4xpensive than ordering it on-line from almost anyplace unless you are ordering from a medical supply house and even then the shipping is a killer. J & J Coach (or Sport) tape always seems to be available in this country at Walgreen, Walmart, other big drug stores and some pharmacies will special order it for you by the box.



What makes these tapes significantly different than other tapes (and by the way--I work for a vet clinic and get anything we use at a pretty good discounts but I still by the J & J Coach (Sport) tape--for one thing I can get it in 1-1/2" which I split to make 3/4" tape--Zonas which you used to be able to get in 1/4", 1/2", 3/4", 1", 2", 3" and 4" now you can only get 1", 2", and 4" I believe. Zonas and the Coach or Sport tape are low tack (not very sticky--which makes them easier to remove) breathable tapes.



Some of the sports type tapes or athletic tapes are suitable for ear taping--but buy the kind that are designed for taping wrists or ankles NOT the kind that are used for taping things like Hockey sticks, baseball bats etc. Those tapes tend to be very sticky and often are much thicker than the other types of sports tapes.



And I'd guess that you could contact 3M and ask them if they sell an equivalent to Zonas or the Coach/Sports tapes in England and what it is called over there.



There is more and anyone ever wanted to know about ear tape I bet.



I know Mel--prolixity is it's own reward.



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It’s good DB I found Zonas on Amazon :-)


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Agree with others - Nope, would not use that tape.

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