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Hair Rollers posting method

I joined an ear posting group on FB and I saw a dog with beautiful ears and posts I had not seen before. Naturally, I asked what her method was and she said foam hair rollers from the dollar store, double sided tape (the kind you would hang a picture with) and sports tape. It looked too easy I was thinking so way it would work..... but I tried it. Y’all, omg. This is by far the easiest and most comfortable method for Mina. I even posted Moose for practice and he had zero issues with them. usually he scratches for a while when they first go in his ear. I wanted to share and hope first timers read this bc I was very confused and scared when I first started posting. This is SO EASY. Ok, here we go.... stand by for pics.



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I clip the white cap off then pull out the wire inside the roller. After that I put in her ear and cut the roller to the appropriate length.


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This part is optional..... to strengthen the roller I put a zip tie inside where the wire was but not all the way to the bottom. I left the bottom inch of the roller alone.


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I had this multipack in my garage so found the appropriate thickness and inserted one



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I put the double sided tape on the roller but leave the bottom inch exposed then insert in ear. After that I use 2 pieces of tape and tape about 2” above the base and then up top.


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I have been doing this since Sunday and she doesn’t get out of them bc she doesn’t try to- they don’t bother her! Rolling those backer rods with duct tape then trying to soften it etc is more work and IMO probably not as comfortable as these super soft rollers.


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If you are a vet wrap person and feel it necessary (sometimes I use ) , this is the best kind . Curad. It is totally optional but I did it this morning when we went to the vet for her checkup. It makes the ear deal not quite as obvious.


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When we got home I took off the vet wrap. They have identical crates next to each other and both were open.... but Mina likes to be with Moose. She is sleeping so hard she almost looks possessed! Lol. This posting method is really easy. Just wanted to pass it on...


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So if you are a first time owner and are freaking out about posting the ears like I was 10 months ago, have no fear.... just head to the closest dollar store and get some foam rollers, double sided tape, zip ties if you want and athletic tape. I like the kind of tape you can tear with your hand so usually I use Micropore tape. Today I used this other kind of tape that tears as well called Silkafix but that’s not necessary.... it’s just what was the closest to me. 3M Micropore is my go to bc of the convenience and ease of removing.


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Thanks for the photo tutorial.

They do both look comfy sleeping in the same crate.
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I was expecting something totally different when I saw the thread said "hair rollers".

Now I'll have to go to a Dollar store and look for some--years ago I knew a Dane breeder who used the hard plastic kind of hair rollers to finish posting after the ear bases were up and solid--they didn't work very well so I was wondering about this.

Closest thing to this was the dental dams that were used way, way back--rolled cotton that came in foot long pieces in a variety of diameters--used to get them from a friend who was at that time a dental student at the University of Washington. They didn't have a hole down the middle but were stiff enough that they didn't need anything to make them more rigid.

You've just reinvented the wheel--congratulations.
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If you really want to get creative and don’t mind messing up a few zip ties to get it right, you can connect them to to make a bridge...



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Glad you posted this and the zip ties worked! I like the "bridge"
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Thanks Bug. My FB friend Karen gets the credit for this.... all I did was tweak it by strengthening the rollers with zip ties and figured out how to connect them (if necessary) .Regarding the bridge.......The lesson I learned with connecting the zip ties is , the ones I chose were not thick enough. with rough sibling play, they came out about 45 min later.... but the rollers stayed in place. The zip ties inserted without being connected stay in with hours of rough play. This hair roller method is amazing for people like me who are always going to the beach. It becomes a complete nightmare with the backer rod, duct tape rolling, zonas etc..... it’s hard on my dogs ears when we are down there and I have to change them everyday bc they keep swimming. This method takes literally 2 min and you can get everything you need at the dollar store for under 5.00. I love Micropore tape (2.00 at dollar general) bc it is soft, breathes, adheres and I don’t need scissors . The double sided picture hanging tape (1.50) is DUCK brand but I think any of them will work so just buy the cheapest. The vet wrap was on special for 1.50 so I bought 6 packs. Again, I do this really loosely then kinda squeeze and it’s mostly to stop moose from licking them and also to curb the questions from strangers. It is way less obvious with black wrap on and I get less “what happened to her ears?” And when someone asks I just say “her ears are fine and I’m just training them to stand. “ I used to try and explain and get frustrated but it takes too much energy.


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Glad you posted this and the zip ties worked! I like the "bridge"


Yes! Good thinking!! I figured I may as well try to connect them while I was at it however, you have to use thicker ones if you want to connect bc she was able to get those zip ties out while playing with moose. I have been playing with this method all week and I’m very impressed with it so far. This is the most NON INTIMIDATING method for first time posters (IMO) . Please excuse my grammar and the fact that I had to post 20 times to explain the method.


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I would also suggested buying a variety pack of zip ties and the variety pack of the hair rollers.... I just changed Mina to the larger in diameter teal rollers from the pink rollers which are smaller.... they come in all sizes.


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Harbor freight sells giant zip ties that are much wider than those white ones for next to nothing. I'm sure Lowes and HD have them too.
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Micropore tape is my go to but I also love silkafix. It really doesn’t matter which one You use bc they both work.


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Oh my goodness this is awesome. I may want to try this when I get my pup next month. I know the co owner of my pups mom was going to help me posting cause she lives in my town. I think they use the backer rod method too. But this looks much easier to me. Anyway can you do a video of you making them? Would be very helpful.



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Oh my goodness this is awesome. I may want to try this when I get my pup next month. I know the co owner of my pups mom was going to help me posting cause she lives in my town. I think they use the backer rod method too. But this looks much easier to me. Anyway can you do a video of you making them? Would be very helpful.


Yes, I will add a video of this method. I already have videos on an iCloud sharing album of my other posting method of paper towels and Micropore tape. If you send me a pm I can add you to it


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Oh my goodness this is awesome. I may want to try this when I get my pup next month. I know the co owner of my pups mom was going to help me posting cause she lives in my town. I think they use the backer rod method too. But this looks much easier to me. Anyway can you do a video of you making them? Would be very helpful.


You can see a video of my dogs playing and the posts not coming out on the gram @Doberman moose


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Just a note--I don't use bridges beyond the first few postings and I really, really don't like using a bridge at the top--probably the zip tie arrangement would pull out of one or the other post if it got caught on anything but I don't use anything to bridge posts that is more than an inch of the top of the head.

And everyone knows I really, really don't like using any sort of self amalgamating tape--not matter who makes it--whether it's VetWrap by name or any of the others made by a variety of people. So basically I don't care if people make comments about my puppies posted ears--I either pretend I'm deaf or that I speak some language other than English.

But the rollers themselves look like a good idea--boy, don't apologize for the series of pictures--they were great (and amazingly enough didn't even take very long to load).

Thanks again for an older method revisited with newer materials.
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This is great!!

This looks like something I can handle. I am kinda (supremely) nervous about posting for the first time ever, so I really like this idea.

I would love to see a video of how its done!

Also, @dobebug , how come you do not recommend the vetwrap? Just curious.
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Hi A. McCrae.

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Ultimately, this could lead to a necrotizing of the healing ears. Its horrible if it happens.

So.... wraps should be firm and tight enough to hold the ears in post. No more! My favorite post that advises first time posters always explain about taping that is "too tight". My favorite related comment (I think it comes via Melbrod) is to "scrunch" the modestly wrapped taped ears. That is: do not overly tape or excessively tighten the tape as it is applied. Once done and all looks well, gently crush the tape onto the ears with your hand.

Vet Wrap, while it looks good, totally defeats the purpose.

BTW, dobebug has been helping folks post their pups ears for decades. She helped my son with his first boy some 13 or so years ago when I was miffed at the length of the very long crop.

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See if you can get a hands on demo from someone.

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I wanted to update everyone on this method. I meant to do this a month ago. So, yes this method is very easy and the dogs (at least mine) don’t seem to mind them; however, I don’t think it should be used until later in the posting process when both ears stand for a few hours. The bases are good and sturdy by then. I did this with Mina in the beginning and I couldn’t get one of her ears to stand to save my life. It was very frustrating so I switched to the ole tried and true backer rod method , wrapped in 3 layers of duck tape except the bottom inch, back wrapped in 3m Micropore paper tape then taped 1” from the base, in the middle and at the top. It takes longer but I found that I could make posts while watching tv since I had the supplies out. I made them extra long and then trimmed after I was done posting. Be careful trimming especially with the zip ties inserted in the roller! I sliced my finger open doing that. So, for the last 1.5 months or so been doing backer rod and voila- they are standing for a few hours on their own. Now, this morning, we are back to the hair roller method bc I feel that we are on the home stretch and that her bases are pretty sturdy. Let’s see how her ears are in a few days. I’ll keep you posted but My point is, I don’t think this should be used in the beginning of posting despite having a zip tie inserted. I think the whole thing just needs to be sturdier on the outside. I don’t have the years of experience that most of you have but I’ve posted 5 dogs this year so I’m getting better. It feels like all I do is post ears LOL. Oddly enough, I’ve grown to love it.


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Here is a side by side comparison of backer rod on the left and hair roller on the right. It appears very slight but do not be fooled, the backer rod wrapped in 3 layers of duck tape and back wrapped in 3M Micropore paper tape is sturdier and does not require a zip tie inserted. Everyone has their own way of posting, but, I feel that first timers should do the backer rod method in the beginning (despite what I said in the beginning of this thread). I wanted this hair roller outcome to be different so it could be used for the entire posting process but I feel it’s important to have something sturdier in the beginning. Sorry y’all! just keepin’ it real.



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All I will add Allie - Is that the backer rod do's come in different circumference sizes - as Mr Business got bigger - then we had to go to the bigger size - And one other thing - That cohesive bandage - You can buy that at a farm store - Like TSC or Rural King - ( Called Vet Wrap ) For a about a quarter the cost from getting it at a Vets Office -

You did a great job on this tread !!

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All I will add Allie - Is that the backer rod do's come in different circumference sizes - as Mr Business got bigger - then we had to go to the bigger size - And one other thing - That cohesive bandage - You can buy that at a farm store - Like TSC or Rural King - ( Called Vet Wrap ) For a about a quarter the cost from getting it at a Vets Office -

You did a great job on this tread !!

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thanks Ken! oh yes, for sure it is cheaper at a farm store. I bought so much of it at the dollar general when i was at the beach so don't have a need for more but in the beginning i bought at the place where i get my horse's alfalfa. they also have ivermectin there but that is another thread.

the hair rollers come in many sizes. I bought different ones and would go bigger as she was getting bigger.

hope you get some snow and when you do take pics of mr business frolicking in the big white field.
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