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Hi - Sorry if there's a better place to post this. I'm new, and I don't know what to do. My Troy is 6 months old, and I think our vet did a terrible job on his ears. When they were first done, it was hard to say with all the bandages and the posting and whatnot. But now that he's bigger, his ears just aren't right. I've now had other Doberman parents actually comment on it - and it really gets to me. I think he's beautiful no matter what, and I don't like hearing that something about him is "ugly" (yes, someone said that to me!). While I agree that the ear job was bad, I don't know what to do. My partner wants to see if another vet can "fix" it. But I'd rather just let him be. I don't see the sense in putting him through that for something that is purely cosmetic.

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Do the ears stand at all?

The ears don't really look cropped. They took no length off (not uncommon) but the bell and shape are wrong.
I'd be seeking a refund from the vet.
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Let this be a HUGE lesson that finding the right cropping vet, having pix of what you want and paying the money is well worth it. Although if you purchase from a reputable breeder your puppy will automatically go to the top cropping vets and come to you healed or nearly healed. Very tough lesson learned. I will say that is the worst crop that I've seen. It almost looks like the side of his ears were burnt off.

Your boy looks very handsome to me. I'd leave him alone, he's already went through the gambit and shouldn't have to do it again because you went to the wrong vet. And if someone comments just say "cool, and you're ugly too so F**k off!" or at least that's what I'd say.
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They sort of stand when he's really alert. But they don't even look right then, either. I agree that they weren't done right at all. Is this something worth "fixing"? Or should our focus now really be on just getting a refund?
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got any photos that show if those ears stand at all.

not sure if I would put him through another cropping at that age..

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I think at this point it's really your decision about whether it's something you can live with. If you haven't been posting them and they don't stand much at all, I would (personally) let them flop, consider it part of a lesson learned not only about ears, but about purchasing from an ethical breeder. People say all kinds of ridiculous things about other people's dogs...not just about their ears. I couldn't care less what anyone says about my dog - it's MY dog and it's my opinion that matters.

If it's something that bothers YOU, then you need to research the few vets in this country who are actually GOOD croppers of Doberman ears and schedule a consult to see what, if anything, can be done, and then decide whether it's something you want to pursue.


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He looks like a handsome young man and I am sure he is bringing you lots of joy and since he is becoming a dober-teen making you crazy, too at times.

As for his ears- I am generally curious if they even stand- since there is zero shape that was done, looks like just a bit was take out from the bottom.

I personally would call it a lesson learned and not put him through another surgery. It can be rather difficult to find a talented cropper and while you could find another vet if they don't have the right skills, it could come out much worse.
However, that said if the ears truly do bug you and you could find an EXPERT cropper it wouldn't hurt to make an appointment and get their opinion.

May I ask, did you request and see pictures of this vet's past croppings?


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They sort of stand when he's really alert. But they don't even look right then, either. I agree that they weren't done right at all. Is this something worth "fixing"? Or should our focus now really be on just getting a refund?
I would 100% ask for a refund and NOT go back to that vet!

Fixing it, like others said 1) Can you find a cropping vet worth it. (if you tell us where your from we can direct you). 2)Can they fix it at this point? 3) does it really bother you?
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It is Probably one of the worst cropping jobs I've seen and I can't even imagine what the vet was thinking! That said, it is purely cosmetic and if you don't care, then don't stress - your dog could care less! However, you do have an excellent cropping vet in the middle of the state - I don't know if she "fixes" bad crops... many good vets just won't try to fix another vets bungle. Trying to think of her name.... ugh - I'm sure someone will have it.
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try reaching out to your local dpca club, you should be able to find them on the dpca website. They would be able to direct you to a great cropping vet nearest to you, if someone on here can't.
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Dr. McBride at Sumpter Animal Hospital! I called her this morning to see if there was anything she could do for us. It's a 2.5 hour drive, but could most definitely be worth it. I'm kicking myself for not going to her in the first place.
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\To the OP to bring a little bit of comfort at least with this crop there is still a lot of ear remaining. Some bad crops I have seen and the ears were cropped too short/or too much off in some location no recrop would even be possible.

But seriously if the ears don't bother you, just leave them be- my guess is they will flop anyways and probably look more natural once they are flopped over.


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It is Probably one of the worst cropping jobs I've seen and I can't even imagine what the vet was thinking! That said, it is purely cosmetic and if you don't care, then don't stress - your dog could care less! However, you do have an excellent cropping vet in the middle of the state - I don't know if she "fixes" bad crops... many good vets just won't try to fix another vets bungle. Trying to think of her name.... ugh - I'm sure someone will have it.
I think you are thinking of Dr. Leigh McBride? She is frequently recommended for cropping, and is also a breeder (VeeDoc).


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I'm sorry you were tasked with having to find your own cropping vet. Reputable breeders crop their litters by vets before placing.

My boy has a beautiful very well done long show crop. I still get nasty comments. People suck!



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Dr. McBride at Sumpter Animal Hospital! I called her this morning to see if there was anything she could do for us. It's a 2.5 hour drive, but could most definitely be worth it. I'm kicking myself for not going to her in the first place.
If you want the ears re-cropped it would be worth it to drive to her. In the meantime you should post the ears and IMO I'd be writing a poor review online of the ear crop you got and a picture of it either on google or even here on DT. Whoever did your puppy's ears has absolutely no business cropping ears (no offense)



I'm copying the picture from your forum introduction thread. The ear bases are standing and considering how much ear leather was left on the ears I think with a re-crop you probably would have good chances, but I'm not an ear crop expert vet like Dr. Mcbride who would definitely know...

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My last breeder used Dr. McBride. I would go, bring your dog and get a consult. She would be the only vet that I would bring my dog too. She breeds and shows Dobermans.
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If you want the ears re-cropped it would be worth it to drive to her. In the meantime you should post the ears and IMO I'd be writing a poor review online of the ear crop you got and a picture of it either on google or even here on DT. Whoever did your puppy's ears has absolutely no business cropping ears (no offense)



I'm copying the picture from your forum introduction thread. The ear bases are standing and considering how much ear leather was left on the ears I think with a re-crop you probably would have good chances, but I'm not an ear crop expert vet like Dr. Mcbride who would definitely know...

BTW this is a hilarious picture
OP, your dog is SERIOUSLY cute! Since so little was cut on your dog's ears it almost looks like he is one of those Dobermans I have seen who's natural ears stand. I am actually impressed they are standing.


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He would look nice with a re-crop but you need to decide SOON, and for what it's worth I do not think he looks ugly or freakish, and it is far from the worst crop I have ever seen (personally I think the worst crop is a crop where virtually NO ear is left). If you decide to re-crop you must go to an extremely well-known and qualified cropping vet... sounds like folks have given you recommendations above.

If he were my dog I would live and learn with those ears. I think he is adorable.

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Bless your heart, I feel for you and your furbaby! Well, the good news is that since there was very little trimmed from the ears to begin with, the vet who corrects it should be able to do a great job on his ears.
Good luck, I hope it goes good this time.
We have an 11 week old male who just had his done. There's a clinic here in the Houston area who only do ear cropping and do amazing work for less than half of what most vets charge. It's a shame your not closer. We paid $300 for having ears cropped, dew claws removed, the funnel collar, microchip and antibiotics.
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OP, your dog is SERIOUSLY cute! Since so little was cut on your dog's ears it almost looks like he is one of those Dobermans I have seen who's natural ears stand. I am actually impressed they are standing.
He can actually get them to stand ALL THE WAY up when he's REALLY serious about something. So it makes me feel good about our chances with a re-crop. I've contacted Dr. McBride and am waiting to hear back from her via email.

And thanks! He really is SERIOUSLY cute :-)
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OP, your dog is SERIOUSLY cute! Since so little was cut on your dog's ears it almost looks like he is one of those Dobermans I have seen who's natural ears stand. I am actually impressed they are standing.

This pup reminds me of my last boy whose natural ears stood up. Well, sometimes they stood, sometimes the left one flopped over his head. They had a life all of their own.
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Am I the only one who's totally against recropping in this case? It's of course completely your decision, but from what I've seen, Troy is a gorgeous boy and shouldn't have to go through anything else for purely cosmetic reasons.

Whoever told you he's ugly needs to get their eyes checked. Next person who tell you he's ugly - tell them to look in the mirror first.

Write a bad review about the cropper, get a refund, sure, but I think he's fine the way he is (being 100% honest here). I don't even know your dobie and I'm already fond of his ears They can be his trademark!!
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Am I the only one who's totally against recropping in this case? It's of course completely your decision, but from what I've seen, Troy is a gorgeous boy and shouldn't have to go through anything else for purely cosmetic reasons.

Whoever told you he's ugly needs to get their eyes checked. Next person who tell you he's ugly - tell them to look in the mirror first.

Write a bad review about the cropper, get a refund, sure, but I think he's fine the way he is (being 100% honest here). I don't even know your dobie and I'm already fond of his ears They can be his trademark!!
I also think he's gorgeous too and it looks like the personality matches the ears! But I also understand wanting something nicer. To each their own.
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