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Ears NOT standing

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On Monday I took my dobe, Roxy, to the vet to have her ears taped again (he has been taping them for me since she had her ears cropped). She is 15 weeks old and he said that her ears just don't want to stand and would like me to consider putting implants in her ears. This seems too soon to be considering other options (we had her ears cropped at 8/9wks) but I wanted to ask the opinion of some others to see what you all think. Should I be considering implants in her ears or should I just keep taping them myself? I have been taping them in between vet visits as she has gotten more active with our other dogs which results in the tape coming off.

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On Monday I took my dobe, Roxy, to the vet to have her ears taped again (he has been taping them for me since she had her ears cropped). She is 15 weeks old and he said that her ears just don't want to stand and would like me to consider putting implants in her ears. This seems too soon to be considering other options (we had her ears cropped at 8/9wks) but I wanted to ask the opinion of some others to see what you all think. Should I be considering implants in her ears or should I just keep taping them myself? I have been taping them in between vet visits as she has gotten more active with our other dogs which results in the tape coming off.

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At 15 weeks, your puppy is probably right in the midst of teething, and that can definitely affect the progress you get on ears standing. I'd keep posting.

I've had ears that didn't stand surgically corrected, but I sure didn't do it on a puppy that young! I'd post until at least 12 months of age or so before I considered other options.



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wow at 15 weeks?

No way, keep posting. A lot of dobers have to be posted until they are 12 months old. hang in there.

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That's what I figured...I had read it could take up to a year for the ears to stand. I am sure the vet is just tired of taping them and ready to try something new to get it to work. They seem to stand better when I tape them anyway LOL!

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15 weeks is too soon to decide anything. Find an experienced taping expert in your area. You can contact a DPCA chapter club if you have one in the area or try to contact a reputable breeder who can do the taping for you and give you advice if you run into problems.

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I 3rd that. 15 weeks, teething can cause dropping plus it depends on the length of crop, etc... Keep posting, it takes time!

Also, I'm not thrilled that your Vet recommended implants for such a young pup, JMHO




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I recommend posting yourself. Absolutely NO reason to pay a vet to do it.

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Hey Guys,

On Monday I took my dobe, Roxy, to the vet to have her ears taped again (he has been taping them for me since she had her ears cropped). She is 15 weeks old and he said that her ears just don't want to stand and would like me to consider putting implants in her ears. This seems too soon to be considering other options (we had her ears cropped at 8/9wks) but I wanted to ask the opinion of some others to see what you all think. Should I be considering implants in her ears or should I just keep taping them myself? I have been taping them in between vet visits as she has gotten more active with our other dogs which results in the tape coming off.

Any advice would be helpful; Thanks!
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Implants!? At 15 weeks? No - absulutly not, give you pup a chance first! My vet said that Louie's ears wern't going to stand either, and he suggested the same thing. I waited. Sure enough by 5 months they were standing on their own and havn't had a problem since.

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15 weeks is far to young to be considering implants my Tasha's ears were standing at 14wks but they were cropped at 8wks, as someone else has said during teething ears can be a problem cropped or not, if I were you I would continue to post.


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Ditto! I wasn't thrilled when he suggested it either. I am sure he could read my "Are you crazy?!" look.
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The posting was included in the price of cropping the ears. Everyone I have talked to said he was the best with dobe ears...guess my dobe is just a little different. I will continue to post...Any advice on posting materials?
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Backer rod, and zonus pourus tape.

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The posting was included in the price of cropping the ears. Everyone I have talked to said he was the best with dobe ears...guess my dobe is just a little different. I will continue to post...Any advice on posting materials?
I don't see why your Dobe is different. Best ear cropper or not, ears take time, period. Don't give up, just keep posting yourself...agreed, backer rods & zonas tape
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Where can I get the backer rods and zonus tape? Is there a website I can order from?
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Where can I get the backer rods and zonus tape? Is there a website I can order from?
Backer rod Home Depot or lowes.
Zonas I would order it in bulk on the internet. You will need it, and a lot of it.

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Is it just sports tape?
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home improvement stores carry backer rods (ace, menards, home depot). I used tampons with Morgan until her eras outgrew them and got the rods, she has a med./long crop.
It's actually a firm foam sold by the window department for insulating about $3.00 tops and a long roll. Get the medium thickness.




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How many days in a row are they taped? When you take them down how long before you retape?
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Is it just sports tape?
Yes, but it is strong yet gentle enough, and pourus enough for the dogs ears. You don't want to rip the dog's ear hair off when taking the tape off. So what I did, was go to sally's and get liquid wax removal, and poured a lot on the tape soaked it for a good 3 minutes, and the tape just slid off the ears. At first I was using off-brand drug store tape but the tape kept coming off.

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you can use any air permeable sports tape in a pinch. But I prefer the Zonas tape.



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She is very active outside with the other dogs so I have been taping when she tears them down 1 to 2 days. I leave the tape off long enough for me to get them retaped. The vet was leaving them down for several days at a time to see if they would stand. I have been using sports tape and tampons because I was in a bind when he taped them because he was using just gauze on the inside and cardboard on the outside of the ear.
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She is very active outside with the other dogs so I have been taping when she tears them down 1 to 2 days. I leave the tape off long enough for me to get them retaped. The vet was leaving them down for several days at a time to see if they would stand. I have been using sports tape and tampons because I was in a bind when he taped them because he was using just gauze on the inside and cardboard on the outside of the ear.
I personally never left Louie's down longer for a couple of hours.

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I would definitely not leave them down for more than an hour or two.

Can you post a picture of the pup's ears when they're posted so we can see how the vet is posting them?


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All the advice given is good, but you must reverse tape on what ever material your using for posts. Tape the bell (bottom) secure, not tight but maybe a little lower then you have and get the post deep in the ear. I suggest at least 10 to 12 days in a row, then remove and massage with some mineral or baby oil, stretch the ears with a good massage. Do this in the morning, dry completely and retape at night, continue this progression until teething is done, make sure your posts lengths are taller than the ear so the tips don't bend in or out. Show some photos here if you can so follow up can be evaluated. Don't get frustrated it's a long endeavor but the results are worth it. best to you & the pup.
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I have a pic of how I am posting them...she tears his down before I even have time to get her home.
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