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Big dobermans???

Just a quick question, only out of curiosity...

How big was the biggest doberman you've ever seen? I'm talking about height and weight (without being overweight). I've seen a couple of classified ads online that say something like "giant dobermans". I'm not thinking about getting one or anything, I'm just curious. If you have pics I'd like to see them.
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the biggest doberman i've ever seen that fit within the breed standard was my puppy's sire. he's a big boy. i know he is around 90 pounds but i don't know his dimensions. i don't have any photos, though. pulled all of them off my computer when my pup left us.

you don't want a dog that's oversized, "giant" or "king" sized.
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A 90 lbs dobe does sound like a big dog.

But have you seen any out of breed standards that are bigger than that, that are pure bred but just bigger?
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no, because when i was looking for a dog i avoided crap breeders that deliberately breed for size. i ignored them completely. the last thing i wanted to do was give money to someone who doesn't care about the overall joint health of the dogs they breed.
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I always thought my Logan was a pretty big boy as he is 2 times the size of the previous one i owned...but i have heard of Superior dobermans that are bigger then the normal 70-90 lbs and can be 110lbs plus.

My logans head is about mid torso to me and i am 5 foot 8. On his back legs he is taller then me. At the dog park was only slightly smaller then a great dane there. THere are 3 other dobermans at that park we go to and he is a lot bigger then all 3.

I am sure there are a few people with really HUGE dobs on here.
Id really love to see where Logan stacks up to some of the bigger boys. LOL
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Logan is 94 Lbs. But he is lean. He is just a huge clumsy knuckle head. LOL
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Yes. My first Doberman, Logan, was 110 pounds and close to 30 inches at the shoulder. He was a big boy. He was also the product of a BYB, and I adopted him after he turned up in a free to a good home ad.

He had hip displasia and arthritis by the time he turned 6. He died a week after he turned 7 from osteosarcoma.

People do breed oversized Dobermans on purpose to make money, and because some people think that bigger is better and will pay accordingly. Dobes are supposed to be a lithe, athletic medium sized breed. Large dogs are often poorly bred- to get that height and weight, BYBs will ignore other important things, like health and temperament.

So you wind up with overly large dogs living shorter lives, or coming down with joint and skeletal problems at a young age. Other breeds, like Rottweilers, pit bulls, and GSDs also have the same problem. People breed for dogs that are outside the standard, which is not good for the breed as a whole, or the health of individual dogs.
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I worry about my dob with health issues only because he is rather large and i know that the bigger they are, sometimes, the more issues they begin to have earlier on.
Logan came from a BYB as well but i adopted him from his previous owner who bought from the breeder. His previous owner could not care for him as he was being deployed and so i took ownership so he could have a happy healthy home. And while i dont know much about his litter mates or the breeder themselves, I could only hope that i dont experience losing him at a young age as he has a fantastic personality and i am very very attached to him.
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There was a Doberman we saw regularly and took care of once that was massive. He was close to 100lbs and about 31" tall. He made Ripley look like a petite little girl beside him. This dog was more on par size wise to a smaller female Dane. Not very well proportioned or overly pleasing to the eye. Pretty typical of a lot of BYB Dobermans I'd say.

No idea what the biggest within standard Doberman I've seen is. I know Ripley is as big as I'd ever want - he's 80lbs and IIRC 27 1/2" tall. Even within standard, I prefer Dobermans on the smaller side of the scale. :-)



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What is the purpose of your thread, OP?




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The biggest dobermann I have ever seen was an American Dobe. I don't know his height or weight because he was in the park (and I didn't stop and measure him!) but he wasn't a nice looking dog at all. His looks to me he said 'Mastiff' not 'Dobermann'; he didn't look agile and athletic and elegant, he looked sluggish and tall and...not what I would want in a dobermann




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Big dobermans???

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My girl is around 93 lbs. she's definitely big for a doberman.
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What is the purpose of your thread, OP?
To reiterate how unattractive and unhealthy my Huckleberry is! And of course to find a round about way of seeing who has the biggest so he can get even bigger, lol!

I still think my disproportionate clumsy ass boy is beautiful! (BYB = Land of misfit dogs)


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I don't understand why anyone would accept, much less want a "bigger" dobe. Why would anyone want a mouse that looks like a rat? Dobes are not meant to be "huge". People who want huge dogs should look at giant breeds and stop giving money to BYBers who profit off this "bigger is better" mentality when the dog is the one who suffers.

Not criticizing those with rescued dogs, its just, I swear I'm going to punch the next person who asks me if my dog is a "king doberman". And my boy is only 75lbs.
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No worries, Dglvr. I know you're not critizing rescues. If I ever am ready for a puppy, I would never purchase a dog outside the standard. No reputable breeder would intentionally breed a dog like my Logan anyway. I was his third home too, the first two were classic examples of who shouldn't have a Doberman (or any dog at all, in the case of home #2).

The whole king doberman thing drives me crazy too. King or warlock is just a gimmick to squeeze more money out of unsuspecing puppy owners. Then they get dumped with any temperament and health problems that the irresponsible breeders created in the first place.
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No worries, Dglvr. I know you're not critizing rescues. If I ever am ready for a puppy, I would never purchase a dog outside the standard. No reputable breeder would intentionally breed a dog like my Logan anyway. I was his third home too, the first two were classic examples of who shouldn't have a Doberman (or any dog at all, in the case of home #2).

The whole king doberman thing drives me crazy too. King or warlock is just a gimmick to squeeze more money out of unsuspecing puppy owners. Then they get dumped with any temperament and health problems that the irresponsible breeders created in the first place.
All dogs deserve a loving home.. they are not responsible for their breeder's actions. Rescuing is one of the most rewarding and educational things you can do.

I've worked with rescues for years, and I really like when people admit they have a BYB dog, it means they've learned what a BYB is, and are unlikely to make the same mistake again. This is what the beginning of the end looks like.
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I dont remember where I read it but the dobe being described was said to be 150 lbs, and my first thought was thats not a dobe its a rottweiler!

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My fiancé gets so mad at me because he can't go anywhere with my dog and I. Everyone always comes up to us and they either say how they use to breed them and my boy is small (at90lbs) or I hear how big he is and they ask if he is a warlock? My fiancé will literally just walk away because he know what I am about go on and say lol people are annoying

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My girl is around 93 lbs. she's definitely big for a doberman.
Wow that's HUGE for a female dobie!
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I have to say, I'm glad to see no one is posting pictures of "warlock" Dobermans or "king" Dobermans or *cough, cough* those "Superior Sized Euro" Dobermans.

I hate to see stupidity glorified.

Well, except for on Jackass and Whacked Out Sports and that sort of thing--'cause that shiite is just plain funny.




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the most biggest, hugest, toughest, strongest, giantest, bestest dobe i ever knew was about 27 1/2 inches high and about 87 pounds.

crap.

what was the question?

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I have a Warlock Min Pin! He is 31" and 75lbs!! So I think I win!!


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I believe she was oversized. Not entirely sure though. I don't have any other dobermans nearby to compare her to.
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well, you could always measure her to see whether she fits the breed standard... DPCA | The Doberman | Standard
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