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post #26 of 35 (permalink) Old 11-07-2010, 09:33 PM
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I do want some opinions on whether I am hurting her to hold her off her front feet with her collar high on her neck. If she is reactive and I have her collar and she starts to lunge, last night I found I could hold her there(probably less than a 10" off the ground) if the circumstances were all in my favor. Is this physically all right for her i.e. I don't want to do anything that is harmful. Thanks.
I was taught that the more you pull on the collar the more you are teaching them to pull but this was for walking on leash. I feel doing this could be making her more reactive. I am not sure what to tell you to do seems you are trying lots of things. When Lexi(rip) did this when seeing a dog(not as bad) or squirrel (the worst) I would turn and go in the other direction if I could and I understand what you are saying once over that threshold it really doesnt matter what you do feed/try and get attention nothing really works so you have to try and catch everything first which is not going to happen all the time. Not a very relaxing walk when you have to be on guard all the time. But do your best to keep from being tense/nervous as best you can your dog can sense it. Just keep working at it and hopefully you will see some progress remember it can be a long road. But what a great mom she has!

Also before going to training I had gotten Lexi a halti or gentle leader head halter and when I showed up my trainer made me take it off immediately. He did not approve of it even tho I thought it made my walks way easier. After being educated about the prong collar I ablsolutely love it. I use them on my terriers also. When out walking 3 dogs I use them if they were to all want to do something at once there is no way I could hold them all. If I have help I may not use them and when Kyrah and I go on outings I rarely use it but usually have it packed just in case. After learning how it works and seeing how easily I can control my dogs, they havent always walked like they do now, it is a training tool I will probably always want to have on hand. Dont think they cant rare on hind legs with it on b/c Lexi had no problems doing that IMO they just dont seem to pull as hard. Of course with her level of reaction I might get a trainers opinion first.


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Have you tried Rescue Remedy or DAP before you go on a walk? The DAP comes in a spray that you could put on a bandana around her neck. It might take just enough of the edge off to allow her to focus on you more easily.
Never heard of it. Calming agent? She is actually totally fine walking unless we have a dog coming towards us and we can't get away. When we are walking normally she focuses fine on me and she is right on my left side and doesn't pull. She focuses on me when there are construction people, leaf blowing machines, FedEx men, garbage trucks, motorcycles, etc. But you must understand that I walk her in our neighborhood or other places which don't have a lot of people (like downtown or some shopping area).

Would Rescue Remedy or DAP affect her even when she is not 'edgy'.

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Both are calming agents. Rescue Remedy is a liquid and is also used for people. It's homeopathic flower essences. DAP is "Dog Appeasing Pheromone" which you can get in a spray. It's not to spray on the dog, though, so you'd need her to wear something.

It might help. I'd personally give it a try. I use either one or both for Shanoa when we're going somewhere that might cause some anxiety. I don't notice that she's any different other than she is less likely to react to things that normally make her anxious. She's not "drugged" or altered in any perceivable way, if that makes sense. It just seems that when I use it she's just a little more able to function during circumstances that might cause reactivity.

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My behaviorist didn't want me to use the prong because she felt Audrey would associate any pain with the other dog and that it would make things worse. That's why I use the Sense-ation harness (also because it reduces her power and she doesn't pull and walks really nicely on it). I do have a prong and also the newer swankier model by HS which looks like a metal necklace and haven't used them since the harness. But maybe I will put one on and have another lighter, shorter leash and use it if I need to if we run into a dog...and see if that works...
As is, like I posted just above, when there is no other dog around, she walks like a charm. Right next to me, leash is short but loose and she is relaxed.
Lexi sounds a lot like Audrey, but Audrey has given up on squirrels..but not on cats.

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Both are calming agents. Rescue Remedy is a liquid and is also used for people. It's homeopathic flower essences. DAP is "Dog Appeasing Pheromone" which you can get in a spray. It's not to spray on the dog, though, so you'd need her to wear something.

It might help. I'd personally give it a try. I use either one or both for Shanoa when we're going somewhere that might cause some anxiety. I don't notice that she's any different other than she is less likely to react to things that normally make her anxious. She's not "drugged" or altered in any perceivable way, if that makes sense. It just seems that when I use it she's just a little more able to function during circumstances that might cause reactivity.

Rescue Remedy: Rescue&reg Remedy - Official Site
DAP: Dog Appeasing Pheromone: Dog Anxiety, Pheromone Spray
OK, thanks. I will check it out. Worth a try. Hey, maybe it will somehow make her think I am less anxious and then she might be. I'd take that. lol

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I personally agree with your trainer and would not put a prong on her, even the Neck Tech.
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What I have started doing with our little female who acts somewhat the same as yours is to say to her"Whats that" and get her to look at me and treat immediately. Even when she hears another dog barking I have done this and we walked across the street from another dog being walked and she didn't even react! I watched her body language and when she started to react to the other dog, I asked her What is that and she looked and got a treat.
I have been playing the what's that game with mine too. We only recently started that and it seems to be working at least while off leash with something much less conducive to reactivity than the sight of another dog when he is on leash. Off leash he is totally fine with everything. I have signed him up for a reactive dog class and they want us to use a head harness or gentle leader. From reading other posts here I am considering the canny collar.
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Hi.. Mirielle

This thread is 8 yers old. You may want to start a new one.

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Feeling dumb, I should have checked the dates.
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Feeling dumb, I should have checked the dates.
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