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I think a lot of people measure their dogs the same as horses making them a bit taller?

I've also heard early neuter/spay can cause for taller dogs, not sure how true that is.
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I think a lot of people measure their dogs the same as horses making them a bit taller?

I've also heard early neuter/spay can cause for taller dogs, not sure how true that is.
Oh, I thought it was the same - ground to withers. Is there a different measurement for dogs?
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Oh, I thought it was the same - ground to withers. Is there a different measurement for dogs?
That is how I always thought it was, too.

I always put my dogs to the wall and use a yard stick flat so I get a precise measurement when I mark the wall. Seems like a lot of people let the dog wiggle around and hold up a soft measuring tape. I had a friend that was telling me her male was 32" tall and when I measured him he was 28.5". She didn't have him against a wall just held up a soft measuring tape and he was all over the place. Not precise at all.


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I think a lot of people measure their dogs the same as horses making them a bit taller?

I've also heard early neuter/spay can cause for taller dogs, not sure how true that is.
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That is how I always thought it was, too.

I always put my dogs to the wall and use a yard stick flat so I get a precise measurement when I mark the wall. Seems like a lot of people let the dog wiggle around and hold up a soft measuring tape. I had a friend that was telling me her male was 32" tall and when I measured him he was 28.5". She didn't have him against a wall just held up a soft measuring tape and he was all over the place. Not precise at all.
Well I, for one, have never used hands to measure my dogs, always inches.

Kidding aside, yes, a dog's height is measured at the withers, just like a horse. The most accurate way is to use a wicket (required in some agility organizations). The next most accurate ways are like DreamingDoberman does, or else by using a makeshift wicket with a rigid yard stick or tape measure and dowel or something to lay across the dog's withers. The least accurate way (short of flat out guessing) is with a soft tape measure.

ETA: The level of the dog's head can influence their measurement. Back in the days when every dog in Open and Utility obedience got measured, people taught their dogs to stand with their head lowered, as lowing the head can "lower" a dog's measurement by lowering the withers, versus holding their head up high, which also raises the withers.

ETA #2: Yes, animals altered young may grow to be a bit taller than if the hadn't been altered, but the difference is usually pretty slight. Maybe up to an inch, but not 4 or 5 inches...


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Well I, for one, have never used hands to measure my dogs, always inches.
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"My dog is 6 1/2 hands, why do people throw out numbers like 28?"

Thanks for the info. I learned horses first, so obviously my horse-like dog (as in eats-like-a) would be measured the same way.
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I thought the withers were further up on a horse farther up the neck a bit (a few inches past where the main starts at the boney point) and the dog was to be measured at the top of the shoulder blade. When I've seen people measure incorrectly it's usually because they've been measuring further up the neck so I assumed that was because they learned that because a horse is measured that way, but maybe they're just wrong.

Gretchen is currently 3 1/2 hands what you all measure differently?
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I thought the withers were further up on a horse farther up the neck a bit (a few inches past where the main starts at the boney point) and the dog was to be measured at the top of the shoulder blade. When I've seen people measure incorrectly it's usually because they've been measuring further up the neck so I assumed that was because they learned that because a horse is measured that way, but maybe they're just wrong.

Gretchen is currently 3 1/2 hands what you all measure differently?
If she's 3 1/2 hands, that would make her only 14 inches tall. A hand is four inches.

The withers are basically where the neck ends and the back starts. Horses to have a higher bony prominence than a dog, but that's the main difference.


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She's very tiny, people ask me if she's a min pin all the time. I was just guessing to keep the joke going lol. Although I've owned horses and know where to measure I can't recall ever doing it lol. Pretty sad since I was on the equestrian debate team and can't even remember how many inches are in a hand!
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Radar would probably be more accurately measured in "hands" than inches...plus he is afraid of measuring tape for some reason. I would estimate him to be about 4.5 to 5 hands.

No one is really sure why he's so large. Hes got quite a bit of weight and height on both his parents. Must come from farther back.

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Oops, just saw the previous comments. I used my own hands, which I would say are roughly 7-8 inches from middle fingertip to wrist

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Maybe I'm just getting really senile and I haven't looked it up yet but I'm pretty sure I was taught that a "hand" was traditionally the WIDTH of the average mans hand--measured at the widest part.

I have a relatively medium sized woman's hand and it measures 3 1/4" across the palm. (But I also have long fingers and a wide spread so even though my "hand" isn't terribly big I can easily reach well over an octave on a piano.

Also the last time I was involved in measuring horses (a good many years ago I admit) they were measuring with a metal rod and sliding arm which listed inches and then translated it into hands--the device itself was similar to a wicket used to measure dogs who have height disqualifications
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You aren't senile...I just have no idea what I'm actually talking about, and used my actual hand to measure my dog

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Roxie is 29" at shoulder, she is 6yo.

Karma is 6 months and 2 feet at the shoulder....a bit hard to measure as she is so wiggly. Any guess if she will be taller than Roxie???....her paws are larger than Roxie's......the two others from the litter that I have seen are both a bit taller, and have equally giant feet. I also suspect that Karma's mange and malnourishment were worse than theirs, their coats have come in better, and they are both at least 2 inches taller than Karma.

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Well I went to ECIN school......I now measure Hoss by corncob's ...Hoss is 2 1/2 cobbs high....
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Exactly.....breeding giant or 'supersized' dogs of any breed will create health problems. My sister's large yellow lab had bone cancer....the vet said the trend towards breeding larger dogs has caused more bone cancer and shortened life expectancy.

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Just for the fun of it.
Duggan: 27 1/2" 81 lbs.
Jada: 26 " 75 lbs
Kiri: 26 1/2 " 78 lbs

Didn't have any corn cobs around to use.

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i hate it when people call tall dobes supersized.. zues is 32 and from normal size parents.. i just wanted a dobe but got a tall one !!
Ain't nothing wrong with supersized!!!

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