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Which Crates Do You Prefer?

I'm making future plans for my puppy and I'm trying to decide if I should go with the steel mesh crates or one of the plastic "vari kennel" types.

I've used the steel ones in the past and they worked well. But, if a puppy does have an accident in one, there's more chance of ......... spillage. And, they're also kind of noisy. I do like that they will fold flat for easy storage though.

I've never used the plastic crates, but they seem like they might be a little more "den like" for the dog and I'm sure they're less noisy. Obviously they don't fold flat for easy storage. Have any of you ever had a problem with a dog being able to chew on one?

What are your opinions?
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I'm not going to be much help to you as I use both.

Have two of the wire ones at work in the office. Just a place for them to get comfortable & to keep them secure during periods of high activity when doors leading out need to be open.

At home have the plastic ones, easier to move around when cleaning due to light weight. I leave one set up for my male as he loves his to curl up and sleep in. My little princess prefers her royal perch on the couch.

When they were pups the plastic ones were easier to keep clean .
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I could not vote because I prefer each kind for different reasons. I use the vari-kennel in the house from puppy through adult, but wire crates are in my vehicle because they are easier to secure and cannot move around.

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I could not vote because I prefer each kind for different reasons. I use the vari-kennel in the house from puppy through adult, but wire crates are in my vehicle because they are easier to secure and cannot move around.
Ha! Mine are the other way around. The plastic is in the car because it is quieter, and the metal is in the house because it is bigger. I have bungies that anchor the plastic crate to the floor of my Tahoe, so it is pretty secure.

I am about to go and get a smaller wire crate for shows, then we will need a soft crate...sigh, all of this for ONE dog?!


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I also have used both. I prefer the wire because they are easier to to take down and store.

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I use a wire crate but I can see how a plastic crate would be nice. It would be a h*ll of a lot easier to move around than a wire one (as far as getting it in and out of my car). I do like the wire crate because it gives her a den space but she can still see out all sides of it and she likes to watch out windows, watch t.v., etc.

I've actually been considering buying another crate that's plastic, specifically for travel. Like for Thanksgiving I'm going to my parents for a few days and it would be soooo much easier to load a huge plastic crate in my car and then tote it in and back out of my parents house. I'm probably going to make my brother load and unload it once we get there. I think it weighs nearly as much as I do.



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in the house I use wire crates, my dogs seem to prefer them as they like the openness, in the van I have vari kennels. I take wires with me to shows, they are easier to move around, and larger.

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I use both the wire Midwest crates as well as the vari-kennel crates. The vari-kennels are in our bedroom, where our pup sleeps at night and also in the car. I have the wire crates in the home office and family room and they tend to get used when she is tired and needs a nap, or I cannot keep an eye on her for a bit, but I am still at home. I prefer the vari-kennel for when my pup is sleeping during the night and also if I leave the house to run errands and she is home alone. I just feel like the vari-kennel is safer for her and have heard a couple stories about puppies getting their paw stuck in the wire crates. I will probaly replace the vari-kennel in the car with a metal midwest crate soon, as she about to outgrow that one. I also plan to use a wire crate for shows and trials, since they are collapsible - although they sure are heavy! I have never had a problem with either of my Dobe's chewing a vari-kennel - have actually had more problem with the puppy biting the wire crate. It seems like my puppy prefers the vari-kennel although she will go in either style on her own. And the vari-kennel is definitely easier to move around since it is lighter weight.
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I was using a plastic crate for a while and it was not right decision! It looks comfy but it's not...
We bought extra large wire kennel. It doesn't look so pretty in my kitchen but my boy feels much more comfortable. It's next to the sliding door so he gets enough light and likes to watch outside. He doesn't chew his bed anymore as it fits perfectly.
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I use plastic vari kennels in the house while puppies are being trained. As soon as they're dependable, those crates are broken down and stored.

I used to use wire crates for shows, now i use mesh.

So-I actually have three kinds of crate.



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Q's primary crate is a plastic Petmate Furrari - like others have said, lighter, easier to clean, seems more cozy, Q likes it.

But we have a couple wire crates - folded up, but available for like the Jeep or a road trip or whatever - advantage to the wire crates they fold down.

Advantage to the plastic 'airline' crates - when poochy gets on your last nerves, crate up, shut door and it functions nicely as a shipping container
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Wow, so it's pretty much split down the middle with some of you and the rest of you have both kinds.

Do any of the plastic ones come with a divider? Since all other pros and cons seem to balance out, that may be the deciding factor.
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After Citta went ballistic in her wire crate and broke a tooth and needed a root canel we switched to the plastic crates that are harder (but not impossible) for her to gnaw on.


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Wow, so it's pretty much split down the middle with some of you and the rest of you have both kinds.

Do any of the plastic ones come with a divider? Since all other pros and cons seem to balance out, that may be the deciding factor.
I don't think the plastic ones have a divider - what we did was wrap a cardboard box in a blanket and put it in the back of the crate, allowing puppy Q only the front part - when he was small. Then we took the box out as he grew.
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I don't think the plastic ones have a divider - what we did was wrap a cardboard box in a blanket and put it in the back of the crate, allowing puppy Q only the front part - when he was small. Then we took the box out as he grew.
Maybe I've just been lucky, but I've raised a fair number of doberman puppies, and never worried about crate dividers. I just use vari kennel 500's right from the beginning, and have never had a problem with a puppy peeing or pooping in their crate.



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I have used both, wire for Roxie and plastic for Kaleb. I much prefer the plastic because there is more privacy for him, and Roxie used to chew on the wire cage sometimes.. and it wasn't pretty. Oh and her collar got hooked on the wire cage before.
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I have wire for Silas, and I used plastic for Frankie back in the day. I like that the wire can be more open or covered to give some den-ness... and I like that they fold down. But unless they are the seriously hefty ones (like on Leerburg's site) I think there's more potential for them to injure themselves.

Silas escaped out of his, figuring out how to unlatch the door and weasel his way out of the bottom - so we had to padlock it when we left to prevent that from happening and from him hurting himself. They seem less bomb-proof to me now that I've used one with a Dobe.

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I use a VariKennel now- I have used wire ones in the past and dog broke a tooth and another tried to get out so badly she cut open her head and paw. The wire was loud and I had to cover it anyways - just to calm them down at night. Just my opinion.

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We only use plastic crates here. Keira has a Furarri brand (because it was given to us), and the other two have Vari Kennels which are my favourite.

We tried a wire/metal crate once for Tango (my Toller mix), and she totally destroyed the plastic tray that sits on the bottom. Plus, when she decided to shred her blankets everything would be spread all over the area beside her crate, because it fell out the spaces.



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I have both on hand for training puppies. And also a soft crate, easier for transport. I wouldn't put a puppy in a soft crate though.


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Since I do so much traveling, the majority of my crates are wire. However, I do have three plastic crates. They're nice for visiting dogs who aren't 100% reliable... poo, vomit and urine are easier to clean out of plastic than wire.

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I use wire crates in their bedroom (yes, they have their own bedroom ) for them to sleep in, I have the plastic VariKennel in the car for Cara to ride in (although she stays wonderfully in the back of the Yukon without it), and I have a mesh fold-up kennel that also stays in the car in case I wind up somewhere (like my grandparents') where I need to contain her, but don't feel like moving the VariKennel in. Knock on wood, I've never had a problem with any of them.
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I have wire crates, plastic crates and when I'm traveling to shows with a friend who I travel with fairly often we use her fabric crates at the shows.

I don't have problems with any of my dogs in any of the crates.

I start puppies in a 300 VariKennel--it usually lives in the back of the truck (the truck has a canopy) with a 400 VariKennel--those two lock in place and fit at the very front of the truck bed. If I am carrying three dogs I use the wire (equivalent of a plastic 500) sideways behind the two smaller crates. Lord forbid if I have to take four dogs I can just get a 500 PetMate in where the wire crate usually goes and the wire crate is folded and goes on top of the 400. The forth dog rides up front belted in riding shotgun.

The wire crate usually is set up in the kitchen--mostly it gets used as a place to dry wet dogs during the long rainy Pacific Northwest winters.

The dogs have dog beds in every room and are rarely crated if I'm home--unreliable visitors use the crate in the kitchen. The cats go where ever they damned well please and sleep mostly in the dog beds much to the dismay of the dogs. I confess though that one of the cats really prefers the crate--he finds he can watch everything and not get stepped on by me or the dogs that way.
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