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Obsessive Butt Sniffer.. help?

Has anyone had issues with their dogs obsessively sniffing other dogs butts?
When I say obsessively I mean obsessively.

I know dogs do this as a greeting and to find out information on new dogs such as gender, reproductive stuff, health, pack position etc.. and I have read that sniffing a dog's butt for long periods of time can be a dominant dog behaviour, and oppositly dogs that lay down or make their butts easily accessible to others tend to be signs of submissiveness but the weird part is my dog is fairly submissive.

He's 7months old but overall dog socialization has been difficult since we got him, between lack of friends with dogs around here and then COVID quarantine. Whenever he is around a dog he just won't stop sniffing! He'll sniff so long he drools & dogs will turn around and snap and snarl at him - they've never bit him though. And he'll just stand back for a second and then chase after them to sniff again! He'll do this over and over. He never really plays with them he literally only wants to sniff. He's so determined! but if another dog runs up to him he gets skittish and runs away. Sometimes even cries bc he doesn't wanna be approached by dogs, yet he'll chase dogs right after that excitedly to sniff.
So long story short, he's fearless to chase dogs to butt sniff them but scared of other dogs who would do the same.
We tell him to "leave it" when he sniffs too long but he just does it again two seconds later.
He literally will not stop unless we leash him or remove him from the situation. He would sniff a dog's but for 30 mins straight if it were up to him.
I feel silly even asking about this but has anyone expierenced this or have advice? I'm worried one day a dog is gonna get really angry with him and actually bite, although that may literally be the only thing to get through to him.
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Sounds like this is happening in dog park situations. I'll say again that Dobermans are not the best breed to try to use dog parks for dog socialization and actually many dogs don't want or need or even have the kind of manners that lead to successful dog park use.

Your puppy is only 7 months old--his reactions (both the sniffing and running from meeting strange dogs are puppy reactions).

I don't do much dog socialization with my Dobes--I don't let them meet and greet other dogs on leash. But I do teach them on leash manners because all of my puppies start out (at least) intended for the conformation ring and later for performance stuff.

So, what to do? I'd stop the dog park stuff--because it sounds like the interactions there are getting worse instead of better. If you can find a friendly dog (preferably something about his size you might arrange play dates for him but if that doesn't work out either personally I do a lot more aimed at socialization with people.

I'm sure other people here will have some other suggestions for you but over the years I've realized that some dogs are more social to and with other dogs while some really don't seem to need or want that kind of socialization.

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Butt sniffing in manner you are describing is not a good practice for your pup.
It’s only a period of time before some dog is going to get aggressive.
Your pup is little now but once your pup is bigger the other dogs might not be so forgiving.
One of the first things I learned in group training classes with my dog Hoss at 6 months was NO BUTT SNIFFING allowed.
It’s just a sure way to start a fight when you are amoungst a lot of people and other dogs.
The training school that I go to now has the same rule. No butt sniffing is posted everywhere.
Best to train your dog to have good manners now because they get so BIG!
I have a 6 foot lead for when we are going into public places ...but I also use a 15 foot lead when we go hiking for sniffing etc.
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In addition to the over-zealous butt sniff, don't let your dog get into a T-bone position with another dog (meaning either dog standing perpendicular to the other with his head over the dog's shoulder or back, generally with an upright, small stiff tail wag.) That is a very aggressive posture for a dog to take and with mature dogs is likely to lead to aggression from one or the other.
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Thank you for the responses, it is in dog park situations. To be honest we don't particularly want to socialize him other than on leash manners with dogs and learning to ignore them anyways, the only reason we have been taking him to the dog park is because we currently are living in a smaller apartment until we move in a couple months so we have no yard for him. We make do with what we have, walks, and training, fetch, flirtpole, mental stimulation in the house but we still feel bad he can't just run so we take him to the dog park every so often during super low traffic hours so he can have that freedom but it always turns into the buttsniffing stuff lol.
Anyways, we move in a couple months and will have a yard so it shouldn't be an issue then but, thank y'all for the insight, we definitely have learned to stop him and put him back on his leash when he does this. We don't wanna risk any dog lashing out at him.
We do have playdates with dogs he's familiar with already and those aren't near as bad and he'll actually play with them. Quarantine has just put a halt to that for now but we will just rough it out for now Until we can get a good yard for him soon!
Also great point in is pupphood and size, I hadnt noticed until you mentioned that the larger he has gotten the more reactive the dogs he's sniffing has gotten. He's over 7 months and @ 70lbs now.
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Also forgot to add in response to Dobebug, we definitely aim our training more at people socialization than dogs, he's always been perfect with humans. He ignores people on walks and is super friendly and well mannered to anyone we greet or allow into the house.
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The more you let him "practice" this behavior, the more ingrained it will get. I wouldn't "tough it out", I'd simply stop now. These things get hardwired into their brains, especially in the formative age that he's in. You really don't want him to be doing this type of behavior at all. Period. It's rude and it will make it so much harder in the future for him to have good manners.

Find other ways to wear him out. Play more sniffing and brain games. Take longer on leash walks, use a long line. Do what it takes, but you're really setting yourself up for problems down the road if you let the rude behavior continue. He's at an age where hormones are starting up and where really bad manners can lead to some lifelong problems if you let things slide.


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The more you let him "practice" this behavior, the more ingrained it will get. I wouldn't "tough it out", I'd simply stop now. These things get hardwired into their brains, especially in the formative age that he's in. You really don't want him to be doing this type of behavior at all. Period. It's rude and it will make it so much harder in the future for him to have good manners.

Find other ways to wear him out. Play more sniffing and brain games. Take longer on leash walks, use a long line. Do what it takes, but you're really setting yourself up for problems down the road if you let the rude behavior continue. He's at an age where hormones are starting up and where really bad manners can lead to some lifelong problems if you let things slide.
Sorry if I wasnt clear by my "tough it out" statement, I meant "tough it out" as in we'll tough it out at home with our lack of yard currently and make do with mental and physical stimulation at home and on walks, until we move in a couple months and can give him his own place to run and exercise.. we won't be going back to the park. Thank you for the advice ☺️
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Sorry if I wasnt clear by my "tough it out" statement, I meant "tough it out" as in we'll tough it out at home with our lack of yard currently and make do with mental and physical stimulation at home and on walks, until we move in a couple months and can give him his own place to run and exercise.. we won't be going back to the park. Thank you for the advice ☺️
Excellent choice! (I definitely read it the other way, so glad you clarified!)
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