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Its like living with two children..

What a night of dramatics..

To preface. The last three weeks we have started leaving Ace will full access to the house unsupervised during the days. Fiance comes home at lunch every day, and so far there hasn't been so much as a hair out of place. Yesterday.. my fiance was late getting home for lunch...

I get home that night to find my fiance sulking in one corner, the dog sulking in his crate in the other corner, and a chewed hole in the side of our brand new leather couch.

I take the dogs side of the story first. He comes out of the crate, won't make eye contact with the couch and hides behind me from the couch like hes scared. He even throws a lifted paw in the air to show his pain... As I am questioning the main suspect on what happened here.... he forgets which paw "hurts" and holds up the wrong one. The guilt of this one. Ears flat back, he's trying to mold himself into my leg. He can't possibly get any closer. He's oozing remorse and sorrow.

I move on to the first on scene, to get his testimony. Grown man, distraught that for the first time in 15 years he had nice, new furniture. His perfect dog who does no wrong, betrayed him. Suddenly he's taken off the rosey colored glasses and discovered what he thought was god's gift to us, was actually just a dog. Who, as all dogs do, makes mistakes. In two years, Ace has never chewed anything that wasn't his. He wasn't destructive, and he solely wanted to please us. Fiance had thought we had a special, almighty, god sent creature. Fiance believed he did no wrong. Having to face the music has been hard.

Fiances mom stops by. First thing she says "That's just how it goes, isn't it?" while laughing. Wise words from a wise woman.

Later that night, after the guilty has been put on probation, and returned to his happy go lucky self, we all relax on the still-in-tact couch. The last couch standing, shall we say.

Then I hear it...

The guilty party violating the main terms of his plea deal! One stitch ripping out later, and we are all back to a frenzy. Alas! This time I caught him in the act. This time he can't lie, pretended he's abused, pretend he was unfairly blamed. I've caught him! Back into purgatory (his crate) he goes, probation revoked. Oh the heavy sighs I received. He knew he had no alibi. He knew he couldn't make up a story of what happened this time. He just sighed with guilt, but little remorse. He didn't even try to pretend this time. A criminal.. in my own home. I would have never thought...
Now my fiance and I are both shocked. How could he do this to us? How could he trick us for so long, and have us thinking he was perfect in every way? Its hard to accept he has flaws, but we will work through this.


Anyways. Obviously this is majorly dramatized, but now I have a hole-y couch, and a dog who can't be given free access to the home again. On the very weekend our home is suppose to be inspected for becoming potential adopters. My fiance is so adamant right now "No more dogs! I can't bear it!". Do I cancel, or do I bring this poor lady into the current state of chaos of our home? I still haven't decided. Lol. A large part of me would like to cancel, but I fear DVDPA will think we are major nut cases, and write us off. Lol. The other part of me knows its unfair to waste their time when its going to be several more months before we can bring another dog in. I wanted to get the approval out of the way early, but when I filled out the forms we weren't in this position. Where my fiance has internal wounds to heal from the betrayal of his best friend, lol.




To add to the dramatics of this whole story, the guilty part with his work. (Please understand the dramatics are all in humor and good fun).
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Well Ace does look good ! Coat looks nice and shinny !

I wasn't going to comment on the couch - But I just can't help myself

I personally think that Ace is being falsely accused here ! I have represented many Dobermans over the past 39 years with the jump the gun parents ( you ) , who don't look at the facts before applying harsh punishment's !

Fact #1 - SO was Late !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ace was in fear that something may have happened to his dad ! He's never late for lunch !

Fact # 2 -- Location of hole ! It appears its under the latch to release the foot thing on the couch ! Seen this play out in many cases ! The owner was eating Dorito's or chips on the couch and as they reach down to release the foot thingy - they get the Dorito's on the couch !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Poor ace is getting bad hunger pains ! WHY ? The SO is LATE ! Poor Ace - with his key since of smell picks it up - What to do ? He's starving ! Poor ACE !

The Look ? WHY NO Remorse ??????????????????????????????/ That one is SO simple ! Ace is no dumbazz and knows he's screwed - they ( parents ) have already made up there minds ! Why Kiss azz ????? I'm headed to jail with out due prosses ! Lets just get it done ! = Poor Ace !

As far as the DVDPA - I would fear that to with your above mishandling of Ace ! They will pick up quick your the type to just blame it on the dog ! = Bad home ! To judge so quick with out legal reputation !

Ace - Were here for you bubby at the office of Screw them and Do-We !

Fell free to contact us day or night Ace - We are here for you !

it's just that easy !
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Amazon has leather tape that you can use to help cover up the holes. Our poor old couch is just worn out, but we're waiting until we move again to get new furniture. It's not the best looking, but does help keep the fluff in!

https://www.amazon.com/Leather-Self-...2300474&sr=8-4
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My wife is wanting to get a new couch - And with us someday getting a new puppy ( hopefully ) early summer - His not what I needed to see Chesa

Kasia never hurt ay furniture - Ali was a very good dog - that it till she got to be 11 , then she would jump up on the other worn out couch in the front room and dig on with her paws ; like she was making a nest - Kadin ?? When he got excited - he would run into the same couch Ali was working on and pee on the same corner every time - boy , that made the wife mad !
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Way back when (2008 ish?), we on DT had a group which awarded honorary titles to pups like Ace---"Dragon Slaying Dobermans Incorporated" I can't find the original start-up thread, but here's a short description from another one:

Dragon Hunting is the description we, in our crazed moments, give of our dog's more demented activities--tearing up furniture and dog beds on a whim, digging holes and destroying landscaping for no apparent reason, or barking in the middle of the night at non-existent intruders. I'm sure you can probably think of more occasions where the term "Dragon Hunting" might apply. But, because we know our dobermans are finely-bred animals designed for our personal protection, we are sure that they are nobly protecting us from evils we, with our puny set of human senses, cannot see, hear or smell, apparitions we refer to using the common term "Dragons". (I might add that the humorous designation of "Dragon Slayer" helps us cope with the wanton trauma and destruction our dear little...grrrr...beloved canines can inflict on us suddenly and unexpectedly.)

Inherent in the term "dragon-slayer" is that the dog most definitely has NOT been trained to kill "dragons" (furniture, wallboard, landscaping, carpeting.....You get the picture). In fact, I'd have to take a survey of my fellow dragon slayers, but it's possible your dog might be disqualified from belonging if you have purposely taught her to seek and destroy. She must be naturally predisposed to destruction!!

My dog, for example, seems to have a love-hate relationship with his dragons. He carries them around lovingly until, I'm force to conclude, one of them says something that just cannot be sanctioned, and then he makes short work of them. Such is the life of the dragon-slayer; she must be always viigilant and watchful for that one moment when the dragon steps out of line (and then be willing to "take him out"!!)

I suppose it is true that, once one has obtained a dog with a marked ability in this arcane field, one can train her to merely alert at the sign of danger and to let her loved ones know that they are in immediate peril. That, however, seems to be an advanced phase of training that my dog has not mastered yet.




Dogs who joined this prestigious group were assigned numbers; I believe my two were #15 (joint award). We actually even had a logo designed by user cookie725 and at one point you could get T-shirts with the logo from Cafe Press.



I think I remember that in order to join, you had to post a story and a picture of your dog's dragon slaying efforts.

You can find lots of dragon-slayer stories here if you search "dragon slayer".
Sample thread:

https://www.dobermantalk.com/doberma...ries-here.html

Unfortunately, it looks like a lot of folks used Photobucket as a photo host, and those pictures only show as blurs now.

Maybe it's time to revive the organization.
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Well Ace does look good ! Coat looks nice and shinny !

I wasn't going to comment on the couch - But I just can't help myself

I personally think that Ace is being falsely accused here ! I have represented many Dobermans over the past 39 years with the jump the gun parents ( you ) , who don't look at the facts before applying harsh punishment's !

Fact #1 - SO was Late !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ace was in fear that something may have happened to his dad ! He's never late for lunch !

Fact # 2 -- Location of hole ! It appears its under the latch to release the foot thing on the couch ! Seen this play out in many cases ! The owner was eating Dorito's or chips on the couch and as they reach down to release the foot thingy - they get the Dorito's on the couch !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Poor ace is getting bad hunger pains ! WHY ? The SO is LATE ! Poor Ace - with his key since of smell picks it up - What to do ? He's starving ! Poor ACE !

The Look ? WHY NO Remorse ??????????????????????????????/ That one is SO simple ! Ace is no dumbazz and knows he's screwed - they ( parents ) have already made up there minds ! Why Kiss azz ????? I'm headed to jail with out due prosses ! Lets just get it done ! = Poor Ace !

As far as the DVDPA - I would fear that to with your above mishandling of Ace ! They will pick up quick your the type to just blame it on the dog ! = Bad home ! To judge so quick with out legal reputation !

Ace - Were here for you bubby at the office of Screw them and Do-We !

Fell free to contact us day or night Ace - We are here for you !

it's just that easy !
Bahahahahaha! When I hear Ace making phone calls in the middle of the night, I will now know who he's calling!

He's lucky he's so darn cute.

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Amazon has leather tape that you can use to help cover up the holes. Our poor old couch is just worn out, but we're waiting until we move again to get new furniture. It's not the best looking, but does help keep the fluff in!

https://www.amazon.com/Leather-Self-...2300474&sr=8-4
Omg, Omg, Omg thank you. I have been wondering how the heck I was going to repair this, short of calling a professional. This is a GREAT fix! I literally cannot thank you enough. The first step to helping repair my fiance and Ace's relationship, bahah.

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Way back when (2008 ish?), we on DT had a group which awarded honorary titles to pups like Ace---"Dragon Slayers Dobermans Incorporated" I can't find the original start-up thread, but here's a short description:

Dragon Hunting is the description we, in our crazed moments, give of our dog's more demented activities--tearing up furniture and dog beds on a whim, digging holes and destroying landscaping for no apparent reason, or barking in the middle of the night at non-existent intruders. I'm sure you can probably think of more occasions where the term "Dragon Hunting" might apply. But, because we know our dobermans are finely-bred animals designed for our personal protection, we are sure that they are nobly protecting us from evils we, with our puny set of human senses, cannot see, hear or smell, apparitions we refer to using the common term "Dragons". (I might add that the humorous designation of "Dragon Slayer" helps us cope with the wanton trauma and destruction our dear little...grrrr...beloved canines can inflict on us suddenly and unexpectedly.)

Inherent in the term "dragon-slayer" is that the dog most definitely has NOT been trained to kill "dragons" (furniture, wallboard, landscaping, carpeting.....You get the picture). In fact, I'd have to take a survey of my fellow dragon slayers, but it's possible your dog might be disqualified from belonging if you have purposely taught her to seek and destroy. She must be naturally predisposed to destruction!!

My dog, for example, seems to have a love-hate relationship with his dragons. He carries them around lovingly until, I'm force to conclude, one of them says something that just cannot be sanctioned, and then he makes short work of them. Such is the life of the dragon-slayer; she must be always viigilant and watchful for that one moment when the dragon steps out of line (and then be willing to "take him out"!!)

I suppose it is true that, once one has obtained a dog with a marked ability in this arcane field, one can train her to merely alert at the sign of danger and to let her loved ones know that they are in immediate peril. That, however, seems to be an advanced phase of training that my dog has not mastered yet.




Dogs who joined this prestigious group were assigned numbers; I believe my two were #15 (joint award). We actually even had a logo designed by user cookie725 and at one point you could get T-shirts with the logo from Cafe Press.



I think I remember that in order to join, you had to post a story and a picture of your dog's dragon slaying efforts.

You can find lots of dragon-slayer stories here if you search "dragon slayer".
Sample thread:

https://www.dobermantalk.com/doberma...ries-here.html

Unfortunately, it looks like a lot of folks used Photobucket as a photo host, and those pictures only show as blurs now.

Maybe it's time to revive the organization.
Yes this! I need a tshirt with this on the front, and Ace in his shame picture on the back lol. And then I will make him wear it when he's being bad.

Dragon slaying... I love it lol
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Chesa - I have another of my brain storm ideas here !!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe you could get MBM to make Ace a coat to wear with the Dragon on it ?

How cool would it be to have a calendar month nothing but Dragon Slayer's on it - LOL

BTW Chesa - I can see it now ! You walk in at 2:30 in the morning asking Ace WHO he's talking to and Ace turns and looks at you and says , It's Jake at State Farm - LOL
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I should mention that a particular user designed that logo and set up the Cafe Press account back in 2008--that user is not active here anymore (hasn't been on since 2009), and I don't know whether the Cafe Press thing is still active, who the money goes to, who has the rights to the logo, etc, so we can't use that but I know we could revive the group here if we wanted to.

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LOL...I'm laughing WITH you, not AT you....

Sometimes you don't know what might appeal as a "chew" until something new appears...

Honestly, I'd go ahead with the interview to foster, and simply let them know what your timeline is (and, a few days with clearer thinking might change how things seem, too). That's just me. Ace might need limited access to the couch. Gates or crates. Chew deterrent spray. This is life with dogs. Your fiance will just have to understand that dogs sure aren't perfect, and that we all have to live with their flaws


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Just wanted to repost this now that my account mess is straightened out ;-)

As someone who has worked in rescue for nearly 2 decades now, I can't imagine the rescue will write you off. They will understand, better than most, that these things happen. Just show them you have a plan to prevent these types of things (baby gates, crates, etc) so they know you tried something, it didn't go perfectly, but you are working on it. Good luck, and how cool you want to foster! It is such an important role, and is very rewarding in my experience.


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