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I have started using some training sessions for mesquite based on the puppy course over at Fenzi based off "The Focused Puppy". I am looking for some recommendations as to how many different things I can work on at a time (in general not for a specific training session). For example I am working on some foundation for recall like the name game and in your face, but can I also do focus work as well just at a different time of day? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

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Most people say that with a young dog/puppy, keep it short...like 5-10 minutes per session, a few times a day. When I was working with Mocha, I kept it to one or two things per session, and I could tell when she got tired or distracted easily and I stopped there and took it up again later. I'm certainly not an expert but I think it depends a lot on your dog, some are more eager to learn than others and at a young age, they have a very short attention span LOL
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Same - many session a day, very short. 5-10 minutes. Never "drill" with a puppy (or, really, any dog). I always want to end a session upbeat, on a good note. I would rather have ended too soon than have that "darn it!" feeling of having asked one time too many, done one too many reps, burned my puppy out. I always want them feeling like they want MORE! Train MORE! I want my dogs to LOVE training, and the quickest way to make your dog NOT have that feeling is to overdo it.
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Several short sessions throughout the day are generally better than one long session. . you can either set a timer for five to ten minutes, or else grab a handful of treats and train until those are gone.

As far as how many things to work on at once, fewer things are usually better than a lot. Focus takes a lot of thinking on the part of the puppy, so maybe one or two sessions of focus, and another couple sessions of something else like position changes helps keep things from getting boring.

Make sure that you account for all the training treats throughout the day when you calculate her meals.
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Quote from TN : I could tell when she got tired , I totally agree with TN on this one , every puppy is different like the others said . It is fun when we get a new pup and seen the difference between that one and the ones in the past , Like I say - they all have there own story .

Now with Mr. Business , he was wound for sound ! So different from the girls - Coco - Would you agree ?? lol I had to work with him lots shorter in time when working with him .

Right or wrong - I mixed up everything - Sit , Stay , Place , Come , and doing lead work . Like Rosemary said - It keeps things from getting boring . Personally - I worked with sit on the lead most when Kadin was little - he needed to learn to settle down some and give me my space , that he did not need to play hard every second .

I never have been a treat reward guy - To me - they were always distracted in training using them - I used high praise , with a harder rub on the head - back and would say good boy , good boy when doing it . Dobers love praise

I think its pretty cool that you get one here and ask questions as you go ! Dobermans are different and they have big feelings , we never really ever raise our voices here . One time I was watching the Daytona 500 - it was in the last few laps and the guy I was rooting for was near the front and got takin out - I jumped up and said a bad word and hit the table with my hand - lol I know , I know that was not a good thing to do . anyway I asked my wife where Kasia went - she said when you jumped up it scared her and she put her head down and went into the other room - So I had to go in there and tell it was OK , I was not yelling at her , lol with in a second , she jumped up and came back out to us , nub waging a100 mph .

Patience's is the key word when working with training or anything ! There will be days that you think what am I doing wrong ? They will never get it , then the next day - or 2 days - they , from out of nowhere do what your asking and doing it like a Pro , Did I say it takes Patience's ?

Keep the updates coming ! Enjoy reading about Dober puppies

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I have started using some training sessions for mesquite based on the puppy course over at Fenzi based off "The Focused Puppy". I am looking for some recommendations as to how many different things I can work on at a time (in general not for a specific training session). For example I am working on some foundation for recall like the name game and in your face, but can I also do focus work as well just at a different time of day? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

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Focus techniques are always a great area to spend time.
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As some of you know from a previous post the recall is very important to me and still what I work on the most. I am finding that she is actually quite good at recall given her age. I have been incorporating a sit when she comes, but not every time. I am actually digging the focus training. It is great to be able to do this even in short spurts and usually I get her attention quickly at first, then lose focus so I do a recall and then she really stops looking at the food and really focusing on me. It is neat to see how she has started to get it. When I would watch really well behaved dogs I always noticed how "into" their trainers they were. I didn't realize this was trained into them with focus.
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And some breeds are better at that than others. Dobes are particularly good at focus--that ability (and desire, frankly) to be aware of their owner and what he wants is part of what makes them a good protection dog. That and the fact that they are alert and notice things about other people--and because they are so smart, if they've seen a lot of different things/people to know what is within normal range, they can discern whether a situation is one to be concerned about.

Hmmm...that said, it doesn't seem like focus on owner AND focus on the rest of the world at the same time goes together........

Maybe it's just that concentration is something they are good at.

And that they will concentrate on what you want them to---I mean, a beagle can concentrate, but it's more likely he'll focus on something like a game trail than on you...which makes beagles harder to train to do "people" things--unless you want to hunt with them.
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Does anyone have a favorite clicker you've used in training?
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Does anyone have a favorite clicker you've used in training?
I like the Starmark clickers - they are quieter than a box clicker.
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