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16-week old puppy wake me up every 3 hrs. Suggestions??

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Lucas is a healthy 16-week-old doberman (had our third visit to the vet yesterday). I've had him since he was 8 weeks old. He sleeps in his crate at night within earshot of my bedroom. When I first brought him home he would wake up about once a night to go pee outside and sometimes would sleep through the night. Over the last couple weeks he's started barking a lot in his crate at night. He will go to sleep initially and then wake up around 2:30am and again around 4:30am. When I let him out he often just wants to play in the yard and doesn't even need to go pee. I've tried letting him "cry it out" however he will keep barking for at least 1.5 hrs. I'm exhausted and wondering if others have encountered this issue and if so what helped. I've tried bringing the crate into my room but he does the same thing.
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I'm really exhausted... can't even use proper English right now!
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Oh how I remember when Hoss came to us as a puppy......the only thing I could compare it to was the days when I had a newborn in my house.........by the time 90 days passed I was so exhausted from lack of sleep.
So for your puppy..........just like little kids.......try to cut off food and drink one hour before bedtime......then before you go to bed have the final out.
When you take pup out to do business.....keep them on a lead so they do not get distracted with all the interesting things to see and smell.
Everything is new to them...so they get very excited and easily loose focus at this age when allowed to roam around on their own .
When on a lead you are able to keep them on task. Take pup to the same general area for doing their business.........
When taken outside on a lead and in the same area of which they do their business ....that will become very symbolic for them in the future.
These dogs (like human babies) love a routine/schedule.........they learn through repetition......doing something over and over again.
Plus at this age their bladders are small so sometimes its tough to hold it..........
BUT....they can take advantage of your kindness also.........like puppy thoughts .........OH.....2am....this is nice........mom and dad will get up..........and let me go see things on my own......this is fun.
So IMO .......you want to take them out at this age (even at 2am) to give them the opportunity to "do their thing" .......especially if it's been several hours since their last potty break.
But .....do not let it be a party......keep on lead and require them to stick to their business......if they do nothing after a few minutes at the potty site ......then back inside for bedtime. Hopefully cutting off refreshments and hour before bedtime will help.......
Pups are just so curious.........no worries though......in time they grow and get bigger organs and you will be able to get a goods night sleep.....meanwhile.....congrats....
YOU HAVE A NEWBORN BABY IN THE HOUSE........!!!!
Enjoy this as best you can ........they are little like this for such a short period of time..........
And if you have not experienced this yet..........they turn into little sharkey's with those sharpe baby teeth........wear long sleeves......it prevents scarring !
LOL......very happy for you and your new addition to the family.
Others will chime in on this topic..............lots of good intel under the forums...."resources" ........

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Dobermans are very smart and manipulative even as young puppies. It sounds like he's learned quickly that if he makes a lot of racket you will let him out and he can get attention. If he genuinely doesn't need to go out to potty (I would expect a 16 week old to be able to hold it through 1/2 the night so he needs to be let out at least once) then you really are just going to have to tough it out. Don't let him out when he makes noise! Set your alarm and wake up at a specific time every night to take him out. Also, If you aren't already, I would recommend covering his crate with an old blanket or crate cover.
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Dobermans are very smart and manipulative even as young puppies. It sounds like he's learned quickly that if he makes a lot of racket you will let him out and he can get attention. If he genuinely doesn't need to go out to potty (I would expect a 16 week old to be able to hold it through 1/2 the night so he needs to be let out at least once) then you really are just going to have to tough it out. Don't let him out when he makes noise! Set your alarm and wake up at a specific time every night to take him out. Also, If you aren't already, I would recommend covering his crate with an old blanket or crate cover.
Seriously, this is solely it. He learned that mom will wake up if I whine, and she will take me out, or move my kennel. She will give me attention. So now I am going to whine more! Mom! Mom! MOMM!

I know it sucks, but you have to ignore, even if that means putting the crate somewhere farther away from your room. Our house is small, so we didnt have that luxury. I had to just hold strong, lose some sleep some nights, and after a while, never had a problem again.



My biggest problem now is my dobe rather sleep in his kennel, than on the expensive dog bed in my bedroom with me, at nearly two years old, lol.
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They can be little bastards. With my youngest I wore workshop ear muffs in order to sleep those first few weeks.
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Just what everyone said above. If you're a working mom I'd suggest starting him over the weekend. Just going to have to let him bark it out. Face it, he's trained you lol.
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I'm really exhausted... can't even use proper English right now!
So that’s my problem ! I’m always exhausted
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They can be little bastards. With my youngest I wore workshop ear muffs in order to sleep those first few weeks.
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I’m just guessing here that this may be your first Dober I don’t why you and all the others had problems with there little puppies sleeping , all of ours have been perfect , perfect angels , always sleep all night , went out and pottied when asked , rain , snow , hot , high winds , didn’t matter

Well not really but always wanted say that , lol

Have you tried throwing down a 12 pack ,then go pass out , then wake up around 2:30 to go to the bathroom l then let the dog out , then back to bed ?

I really sorry here , but you relit good memoirs of our puppy raising years , and something , hopefully we will doing again one of these days .

Ok , know I think I can be serious to me , just not enough info here , like do you work all day and is he crated all day long ? Is it just you , or is there other family members ? What if any training do you do ? Fenced in area to run in ? How much time do you spend with him before bedtime ? When does he eat , drink last ?

Your Dober boy is bored out the azz and ready to get up it sounds like to me , talk about hitting the nail on the head by all the others that replied ! They smart beyond there years and they are pros at training us ! Me included , lol

Now Ali girl was the worse of the group we have had , she was a night owl , but not really , she just wanted to be with us , I have said that Dobermans not only need attention , they demand it ! we tried the sheet deal over the crate one night , I was sitting there watching it , than I seen the sheet start to move , lmao she had grabbed the sheet with her shark teeth and was pulling it threw the crate wires , the little stinker .

I will say at this time , work him more before bed time , mental work really wares on them , playing ball , training , it will all help some , OR just put him in bed with you at night , that will do the trick

Best of luck

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McCoy is the only dog, who as a puppy, did not have to get up several times a night. He slept all night in an open crate from his first night home at 10 weeks. He never had to be let out in the middle of the night. Weird, but nice.

The funny thing is that as a grown dog, even at 5 yo (today), he wakes up several times a night and comes down from his room to check on us. Just a sniff or a lick and then back to his crate. It used to bug me. Now I really like it.

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I so feel your pain, I've been there. Some of them are worse than others!

Sometimes you have to try some different things to see what works for your pup. If he's in a wire crate, you might try plastic instead. If his crate isn't covered, try covering it to make it more den like. What is the floor of the crate like? Does he have a pad to lie on? I like a Primo Pad on the bottom of the crate. My two have a K9 Ballistics orthopedic crate pad on top of that, because they are pretty durable and reasonably chew resistant. Does he have anything in there to chew on?

You might try a radio on softly, or a white noise machine to help him sleep - he could be hearing noises that wake him up. I'd also agree with setting a schedule for now. Out for bedtime potty at 10 pm, wake up at 3 am, back to bed, up at 7 am, or whatever works for you. And you absolutely, 100% have to simply tough it out for a while until he learns that NOTHING happens when he has a tantrum, or he'll just keep it up. Get some earplugs for a while. If you are certain that he has a clean bill of health and doesn't have an infection, can hold it, etc....just get your schedule set, and prepare yourself for a rough couple of days or a week. Hopefully that'll be long enough to reset everything.
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Who ever said Doberman puppies are easy never ever has had a Doberman puppy. Everyone has given you great advice. I have only had girls (4) and now with my latest girl I have a boy who is 20 months old. He has been the hardest one to sleep the entire night. He would not shut up. Something to try to tired his little butt out is to place paper plates in the yard with a small tiny piece of hot dog on each plate. Let me work to find the plates and he gets self rewarded. It is the beginning of what people in nose work do at the beginning of the dogs scent work training. A mental game that tires them out.
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Appreciate the feedback from everyone. Lucas is my first doberman and I'm glad to hear his behavior is nothing too out of the ordinary for a pup this age. I'm a full time student and my husband works full time, so he's in the crate during the weekdays for 3-8 hours at a time (if he's there for more than 3 hours I have a dog sitter visit every 3 hours). Only two of us humans in the house plus a cat (separated from Lucas with a baby gate). He's not crated on weekends except at night. We have a fenced yard that is large enough for him to run in and we play fetch with him outside in the evening (it's too hot right now for him to spend much time outside during the day). He just had his last round of parvo vaccines so now I can also take him on walks in the morning/evening to get out some more energy. He eats 4 times a day, last meal is around 7pm. We go to bed around 10:30pm and always take him outside right before bed.

I'll try the approach of setting an alarm for 2am and then letting him bark it out the rest of the time. I also wouldn't mind letting him sleep in the bed with us but my husband isn't into this idea.
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not sleeping in the bed, oh well that never happens in my house. Each and every one has slept in the bed. I like it and want my dog there and eventually my husband came around and it did not take that long.
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Same here...initially my husband advised no dog in the master bed....but within the last 6 months (Hoss is almost 4 years now).........
Hoss is now allowed to sleep in our bed with us..... by invitation only.
Although we have to hustle and secure our spots before Hoss enters the bed..........otherwise Hoss will take his position right in the middle and hog all the pillows.

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Appreciate the feedback from everyone. Lucas is my first doberman and I'm glad to hear his behavior is nothing too out of the ordinary for a pup this age. I'm a full time student and my husband works full time, so he's in the crate during the weekdays for 3-8 hours at a time (if he's there for more than 3 hours I have a dog sitter visit every 3 hours). Only two of us humans in the house plus a cat (separated from Lucas with a baby gate). He's not crated on weekends except at night. We have a fenced yard that is large enough for him to run in and we play fetch with him outside in the evening (it's too hot right now for him to spend much time outside during the day). He just had his last round of parvo vaccines so now I can also take him on walks in the morning/evening to get out some more energy. He eats 4 times a day, last meal is around 7pm. We go to bed around 10:30pm and always take him outside right before bed.

I'll try the approach of setting an alarm for 2am and then letting him bark it out the rest of the time. I also wouldn't mind letting him sleep in the bed with us but my husband isn't into this idea.
It sounds like your doing a very good job with him , fenced in area , dog sitter , later potty time , everything , I do have a question here , you said he is in his crate from 3 to 8 hours , so do you see this problem more , when he is in the crate for 8 hours ? That’s a long time for a young dog .
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I also just caught that he's still eating 4 meals a day...I'd cut back to 3 meals a day at 16 weeks for sure. That might also make a difference.
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Just what everyone said above. If you're a working mom I'd suggest starting him over the weekend. Just going to have to let him bark it out. Face it, he's trained you lol.
This is spot on, HE HAS TRAINED YOU.
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Richter & Sypha
Glengate's Mountain Fortress CAA ORT L1V NW1 L1I L1E L1C NW2 L2V L2I ACT1 RATI SOG WAC
& Sirai's Golden Masquerade ORT NW1 L1C L1V L1E L1I NW2 RATI SOG WAC
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