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Long post - introduction and a few questions.

I have been looking through the forums for a couple of months now trying to absorb some of the information. Quite a bit here!

My wife and I got our first Dobermans together over 12 years ago now. Molly and O.D.(Other Dog - only in name )they were sisters. We lost O.D. 2 years ago at 10 1/2 yrs. March this year we lost Molly almost 12 1/2. Both were huge losses to us (50+ yr. old crying for doggies Ė for me they were more akin to children). After Molly the house was very empty.

We had been looking at Dobermans and thought when the time was right, we would get one from a rescue. Surprisingly quick we brought one home 6 days ago. Her name is Mila and is approximately 5 years old and a blue. You can see her story and some photos here: https://www.doberman-rescue.com/dogs/profile.php?id=382 . We had a great experience and the owner was very supportive and understanding. Mila is great, very loving and getting more confident around us each day.

We know she can jump/climb a fence so as the Rescue owner suggested, I have walked the fence-line with her on leash quite a bit trying to establish the boundary. I believe I also read here a similar suggestion. However, the back fence is only 5 foot so I will be adding another 2 feet this weekend. When we let her off leash, she hasnít tried but she does eye the fence and looks up a lot. She gets quite excited about the woods behind us and is on alert. Squirrels, bug noises, etcÖ

Reading all the posts about the potential relationship between DCM and ingredients of dog food seems a bit overwhelming. For now, will stick with the food that Mila was on at the Rescue - Solid Gold Mmillennia. Owner has not had any problems with the feed and DCM.

I do see a number of people on the forum using Proplan Sensitive Skin - Salmon. Will that cause more odorous gas? At times the lamb did keep giving with our previous dogs but worried fish may be more.

Mila is also on melatonin and omega 3 to support her being a blue. From what I see the care, feed, and the supplements her coat is very nice. I definitely want to try and maintain this and do what is needed.

One last question - While it is early days, Mila does get me up quite a bit in the night. I ignore her as long as I can but then she gets insistent. I take her out and she does go pee....then looks for the rabbit that ran in front of her the 2nd night. Appears she pee's but not a lot each time. Any thoughts? Could be just a ploy to get out and pretend to squat to satisfy me she isnít out there just for the rabbit.


Next step is to find a good obedience instructor in our area. She doesn't know commands very well - although we found she will sit without asking when we brought out the cheese for omelets.

As I am about to post this, I see another with similar question about blues and food - hopefully not too redundant and in the correct forum.

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. We lost O.D. 2 years ago at 10 1/2 yrs. March this year we lost Molly almost 12 1/2. Both were huge losses to us (50+ yr. old crying for doggies Ė for me they were more akin to children

Yes they are the same as kids , and we lost one girl that was almost 15 , and the river of tears we Shed in our 60ís , age donít make any difference


. Her name is Mila and is approximately 5 years old and a blue. You can see her story and some photos here: https://www.doberman-rescue.com/dogs/profile.php?id=382 .

[B]What a story , that poor girl ! Stories like this really P.O. Ole Doc ! So glad to here she is a home she deserves and the love to go along with it [B]


Mr Business is on the Pro Plan SSS and I donít think he is letting them SBDís as bad , bu5 he can still clear out room

As far as getting up in the middle of the night , that is a tuff call , As you know , they are so smart ! I think I would take in. Urine sample , say mid stream and run it into the Vets and have it checked for a unrinary track infection. That can make them want. To go out in the middle of the night .

Best of luck with you new gal !

BTW , welcome to DT !

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Welcome to DT from Colorado!

Mila's coat looks nice, especially given that she's five and has apparently been stressed being used as a brood dog all her life.

It's wonderful that you are giving her a chance to make a new start in life--thanks for taking this needy girl into your home.
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Has been a while since I have posted in forums, hopefully I reply correctly.

Thank you everyone for the responses - Even in the short time we have had her, she has been amazing.

We are working on her to go in a crate when we both go out. First time she wouldn't and my wife cleared out the master bathroom and she stayed there. Later I crawled in and called her to me and she came in with me....180lbs of me and 80lbs of her in there. Since then she gets in fairly easy with some treat enticing.

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As far as getting up in the middle of the night , that is a tuff call , As you know , they are so smart ! I think I would take in. Urine sample , say mid stream and run it into the Vets and have it checked for a unrinary track infection. That can make them want. To go out in the middle of the night .
I will keep an eye on this. I think shortly we will be taking her in to the vet anyways along with all her shot and medical records. Last night she only went out 2-3 times. 12:15 am, 4:30am (normal time for me to get up) and finally 6:30am (slept in today). May have gone out between 12:15 and 4:30 but do not recall . But an improvement. In between she gets off her bed, which is on my side, and if I ignore her she goes to bed fairly quickly. Sometimes she gets up and just touches my hand and goes back to bed.

I can see me trying to run behind her to get a sample ...have not had to do that before.

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To be honest I was not sure how things would go, knowing her past, not raising her from a pup....didn't really know what to fully expect. Did I mention she has been amazing?

When I learn how to post photos, I will upload pictures of her here at home. Believe I need to get an outside photo upload site.
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Added Mila Photos

Some photos of Mila - a couple inside and a few outside.

The duck/chicken was her favorite - now has moved to an opossum.






As I post this Mila is sleeping on my foot - now my foot is sleeping

Thank you Rosemary for the tutorial and spocksdad for the privacy tips!
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Such a relaxed happy expression in that first pic. It looks like she's settling in well. I think you guys will have some great times together.
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Modm- Welcome to DT from San Antonio!

Mila looks great, she appears fit and happy now, even at 80 lbs. for a Dobergal.
She is lucky to find experienced Dobe parents, such as you, to provide her with a wonderful second life! Her survival story from previous owners in the back story was heartwarming.

Her personality sounds a lot like our Eva's. She is a bit shy with strangers, but warms up steadily. Eva also purrs when you stroke her when laying down, like a really big house cat! Eva will also try to conn us into early morning potty breaks so she can check out backyard for Possums. I think she can actually smell them from inside house?

We have always fed Pro Plan Shredded Chicken kibble in our house. Only Spock occasionally lets out some gas (silently, as ECIN reported with his Dobes) I have never known Eva to pass gas, because she's a lady and eats slowly, unlike Spock who wolves food down, even from a Brake-Fast dish.

From pictures, Mila really loves her stuffed toys. Our two love them to death, which is what happens to stuffies after about 20 minutes of shredding euphoria!

Looking forward to seeing more posts about Mila's new life with you!
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Poke Everything.
It's New? Bark At It.
Moves? Chase It.
Doesn't Move? Smell It.
Liquid? Spill and Dribble It.
Treat or Food? Wolf It Down.
Not Food? Chew It Slowly, Be Quiet & Hide From Human.
A Toy? Shred & Destroy It.
Stuffed? De-Stuff It.
Bites You Back? Wrestle It!
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Hi and wecome to DT. Mila is beautiful and thank you so much for rescuing!
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Thanks for the pictures ! Like to start my day out with a smile , and those pics did it
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She's beautiful, thank you for providing a home for her



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she is beautiful and thank you for opening you hearts to her
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Thank you everyone for the kind words and welcome.

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From pictures, Mila really loves her stuffed toys. Our two love them to death, which is what happens to stuffies after about 20 minutes of shredding euphoria!
Molly and O.D. also would go through soft toys like these in minutes. Even stronger toys - they would find the weak spot and worry it to death until it was time to pick it up. O.D. was a master of peeling a tennis ball. Mila seems more gentle and just picks them up and carries them. Hopefully that lasts


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Eva will also try to conn us into early morning potty breaks so she can check out backyard for Possums. I think she can actually smell them from inside house?
I know Molly knew when a rabbit was out in the back yard - if not smell then hear/sense them.

As mentioned my next task is to find an obedience trainer. I have been working with her on sit, stay and come. She tends to try and bolt out the door. Last 2 days I have her sit a few times with door open before allowing her out (cheese works wonders ). But I want to make sure I am doing the right thing and being consistent with when to say "yes" and give treats. I think a dog trainer also trains the owner

Other item I am working on is walking on a leash. Sometimes have to coax her...particularly if I happen to get a head...she definitely does not like to be "led". If she stops I usually have to walk back to her and coax her in a slightly different direction.


She does love to play - she runs then tucks onto a shoulder and slide into a roll on the back. Then jumps up and rolls the next shoulder...then tummy rubs occur. Trying to get a photo of that

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What a handsome girl! What a lucky girl!

She sure has a nice coat for a 5yo. dilute.

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She is beautiful, thanks for sharing! I esp. love the first pictures with her toys, there is nothing quite like a happy Doberman.
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Hello Everyone,
Long post - introduction and a few questions.

One last question - While it is early days, Mila does get me up quite a bit in the night. I ignore her as long as I can but then she gets insistent. I take her out and she does go pee....then looks for the rabbit that ran in front of her the 2nd night. Appears she pee's but not a lot each time. Any thoughts? Could be just a ploy to get out and pretend to squat to satisfy me she isnít out there just for the rabbit.


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Just a quick comment. It could just be a natural reaction to your local water supply compared to whatever she had been drinking previously. Chances are her digestive system just needed time to adjust. She may also be 'saving' her pee to scent mark her new territory. We had very similar issues when Lois arrived, she would go out and do mini-pees wherever she scented any other dogs. Even now after 6 months with our two females, one will pee and the other will hold off until the first is done so that she can run over and 'redowse' the spot.

It sounds like you're doing everything right, good luck with Mila!
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I assume this is due to a few things - Genes, food/supplements, care?

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It could just be a natural reaction to your local water supply compared to whatever she had been drinking previously. Chances are her digestive system just needed time to adjust.
Could be we are on a well system and I believe so was the rescue. Next Friday we are planning to take her to the vets. A checkup, but also to get her an introduction to our vet, staff, and see how she reacts to the office and other animals. Will be a new experience for us and her.
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Hello

A few updated pictures of Mila



Relaxing in the shade:



Squirrel?


Lying on the floor - Hind leg you can see some "freckling"....her underbelly is very freckled. Is that common in blues?


Being goofy and out of focus but thought it was funny
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Not sure if I should move to a new post or elsewhere but for now will continue here....

As of today we have had Mila for 1 month. She has grown a lot in confidence and appears to be settling in.

As she settles in some things have changed a little.

Soft toys -
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Now she still carries them around but now lies down and begins to work on chewing them up. She has shredded a tennis ball and a squeaky toy ball. So as we did we pick them up to keep her from swallowing the small bits....

Getting up at night -
she still wakes me up but I only have to get up at 4:00am at earliest, I can push sometimes to 4:30 -5. But she will still get up and touch me go back to bed. Or wants to be petted then goes back to bed if ignoring her doesn't work.

Outside - she is much more independent outside than she was. Harder to get her to come back to us once she is sniffing away and chasing the wind. But even that is changing a bit again.

Food
- still on SolidGold Mmillenia - but mixed with first small bag of Purina Pro Plan Sensitive Salmon. Wonder if I can just keep her on the mix of the 2??

Vet - we have an appointment next Friday - finally!

Training
- today we had our first private lesson with an obedience/trainer. I believe we had a good session. Talked about the 3 D's Duration, Distance, and Distraction. Went through exercises of getting Mila's attention and marking/reward also worked on sit. Where to give the reward from (position). Also different exercises/games to keep her mind actively moving. Ways to keep her from trying to bolt out the door. Also a game of go get it....I hold her collar and say go get it....have food in my hand move it in a tossing action so she sees me then toss the food let go of the collar.

My wife has a less structured exercise/game - walk and if Mila is walking with her stop walk backwards and as Mila follows - drop the reward on the floor.
Hopefully, we (us humans that is) retain it all and have made progress by our next training session next Sat.

She has been very sweet and awesome! I am glad we have her here in our home. We still miss our other family members Molly and O.D. but she is helping us heal.
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Milan is a beautiful girl. So nice to hear everyone is settling in together well.
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Soft toys - Now she still carries them around but now lies down and begins to work on chewing them up. She has shredded a tennis ball and a squeaky toy ball. So as we did we pick them up to keep her from swallowing the small bits....

Getting up at night -
she still wakes me up but I only have to get up at 4:00am at earliest, I can push sometimes to 4:30 -5. But she will still get up and touch me go back to bed. Or wants to be petted then goes back to bed if ignoring her doesn't work.

Outside - she is much more independent outside than she was. Harder to get her to come back to us once she is sniffing away and chasing the wind. But even that is changing a bit again.


We can use tennis balls here , like you found out , I will have to pull up chewys and find the name on the balls we use , I think most Dobers on here can be shredders

Food
- still on SolidGold Mmillenia - but mixed with first small bag of Purina Pro Plan Sensitive Salmon. Wonder if I can just keep her on the mix of the 2??

There are many good feed posters on here that will give you a lots better advice than I , but my question , why do you want to mix the two ? Weíre on pro plan and like it so far .


Vet - we have an appointment next Friday - finally!


Always good to get that first trip done , one thing we have done with every pup was we had go the vet time here , I will look in there ears , check teeth , look at and feel there bellies , everything they do at the vets , Iím telling you it works and the vets always comment how good they do there .

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- today we had our first private lesson with an obedience/trainer. I believe we had a good session. Talked about the 3 D's Duration, Distance, and Distraction. Went through exercises of getting Mila's attention and marking/reward also worked on sit. Where to give the reward from (position). Also different exercises/games to keep her mind actively moving. Ways to keep her from trying to bolt out the door. Also a game of go get it....I hold her collar and say go get it....have food in my hand move it in a tossing action so she sees me then toss the food let go of the collar.

You will enjoy your classes , it not only trains the dog , but teaches you how to train your doggy , we have been to , two classes and had planned on starting rally this summer till Mother Nature stoped that idea , maybe after harvest we will give it a go , you will have a blast !



My wife has a less structured exercise/game - walk and if Mila is walking with her stop walk backwards and as Mila follows - drop the reward on the floor.
Hopefully, we (us humans that is) retain it all and have made progress by our next training session next Sat.

She has been very sweet and awesome! I am glad we have her here in our home. We still miss our other family members Molly and O.D. but she is helping us heal. [/QUOTE]

After the lose of Kasia , we didnít wait to long and like you , it sure helped us , but of course , Mr. Business was a hellion , NO joking ! You think your happy , your tells the true and important part , your little girl is beyond happy ! glad it has worked out for everybody
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We can use tennis balls here , like you found out , I will have to pull up chewys and find the name on the balls we use , I think most Dobers on here can be shredders
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There are many good feed posters on here that will give you a lots better advice than I , but my question , why do you want to mix the two ? Weíre on pro plan and like it so far .
I agree lots of great information - one reason, we are moving her towards the Purina Pro Plan. But she came with the SolidGold and it may be contributing towards her good coat? The nutritional analysis for both of them - the SolidGold has more Omega 3 & 6 along with taurine(support or not....) and carnitine. But Purina Pro has more vitamin E and has vitamin A(SolidGold doesn't) which support coats and skin. I assume since both are good companies the sourcing of the ingredients would be good. The mixing would be trying to get best of both worlds - although not really as it would be diluted amount??? I am not an expert on understanding all the analysis of each dog food.

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Always good to get that first trip done , one thing we have done with every pup was we had go the vet time here , I will look in there ears , check teeth , look at and feel there bellies , everything they do at the vets , Iím telling you it works and the vets always comment how good they do there .
Yep - will do all that good advice, thank you. She does have a small hard spot on her right hip we want to have checked out maybe quarter or so size.

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It was very fun! Agree - we do need to be trained - our best intentions may not be the correct ones and make it not as easy to train. Lots of information to take in but I think I have the gist and the trainer can correct me when I get back next week - hmm wheres my reward!!!! Yes I know a well behaved and social puppy!

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Hope this works . Mod this is the balls we use here , have never put a treat in any or them , but they throw good , and they can chew on them , after time , they will come apart and need to watch them , in one of the videos I posted , they just lay there and entertain themselfs chewing on them .

https://www.chewy.com/starmark-treat...-ball/dp/45447
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Hope this works . Mod this is the balls we use here , have never put a treat in any or them , but they throw good , and they can chew on them , after time , they will come apart and need to watch them , in one of the videos I posted , they just lay there and entertain themselfs chewing on them .

https://www.chewy.com/starmark-treat...-ball/dp/45447
That looks great....Thanks!

Current plan for the food is to get another bag of the Pro Plan and mix more in the large bag of the SolidGold and move to the single source food. Basically introducing slowly.
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I love that picture.

So often the messed up photos are the ones you treasure.

Like this one...brings back so many memories of Kip and Capri's "special" relationship.
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