I know I'm a bit late popping into this thread, but I think Mel is onto something - I'd really want to start working with her on the idea that touching her collar/pressure on her collar isn't a bad thing. Have you tried any clicker training with her? It might be very different/new to her and so it might not have any prior negative associations. If it were me, I would give it a shot - even if you didn't want to use a clicker, even something like "touch her collar, "Yes!" (in a happy, excited voice) and then treat, and working up to a little pressure, with the same "Yes!" You'd work from just a touch, to a little pressure, to slowly more, sustained pressure.
Personally, I probably wouldn't use collar pressure as a way to teach loose leash walking with her, because she has such a negative response to it....you might get better results by simply using a LOT of rewards with her for being near you. I've often found that using canned food in a food tube so the dog can get fast, easily delivered rewards work really well - you can buy food tubes online at places like Amazon, or at camping stores like REI. For a dog that needs a really high rate of reinforcement it works well, plus a lot of dogs like a REALLY high value reward, and canned food can really fit the bill there.
Just throwing it out there as an alternate idea.
You might find with some of the other training that mixing up your rewards helps, too. Kind of a "trail mix" bag can keep dogs interested and working harder - some cooked chicken, steak, braunsweiger....when dogs don't seem motivated I try to really increase the value of rewards, go through a lot of different things to see what really gets them interested and wanting to work with me, and then I also try to have a mix, so they never know what they'll get. I find it makes them work harder, because they don't know if this time it's the piece of steak, or the piece of cheese, or the cheerio, or....
Just some different training thoughts that might help. Throwing them out in case they do.
Thanks MeadowCat - good ideas!
I will have to bump up the treats. Although she is a delicate eater. That is to say my wife gave her a couple of raw tenderloin scraps from last nights supper prep. Mila was easy to take the meat. I was thinking if that was Molly - might have lost a finger or two
But she does respond better with the higher value such as cheese.
This morning, I sat on a chair and kept putting my hand on the collar and moved it up her neck as I let her nibble on the hard cookie type treats. Seemed ok. Repeated this quite a few times.
But when I stood up and had her on my left side she was sitting and with my hand on her collar up high...I could sense she was not very happy. So I dropped it and had the treat low and took a step. She did not move....I took a few more steps and she finally came and got the treat.
Personally, I probably wouldn't use collar pressure as a way to teach loose leash walking with her,
The trainer actually had us start all the training with no leash. Only time we put it on her was when she became stressed. Once leash was attached she actually would calm down a bit. Then when we discussed issue with leash walking - as we will have to have on a leash if we are in public places - is when we tried to understand the issue in our last session.
So I will look into the tube and better treats to keep her happy and interested to be near us. As she progresses from the back yard(fenced) then the front yard(non-fenced and new sights), and neighborhood walks....will try more public areas again.
I like the "trail mix" idea....time to do some cooking. We did save the rest of the meat scraps as well so I can start with those