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How spoiled is too spoiled? Asking for a friend..

So its been a little bit since I've posted an Ace update. Our handsome boy has been doing great! Living the best life a dog could live.



After receiving his CGC and TKN (which the AKC still doesn't show , guess I need to figure that out), we haven't had a chance to get back into classes. I've had to put all my time into finishing my degree, but its looking good for him to be enrolled back into school in fall! We are going to be working towards our BN and RN titles. After those, I think we are going to head in an agility direction. As long as Phats McGee, who is notorious for being lazy, can handle it.

Our trainer switched us to a chain collar last year, but I finally invested in a LolaLimited Secret Powers collar. He's really doing great on the leash, but still needs minor corrections when approaching people/other dogs. I am just not happy much with pulling on a chain. So this eases my mind, and gives us that little bit of control in those situations that I need. While waiting at the clinic the other day, and older lady walked up to him asking me if he was "friendly". I told her of course, and asked him to sit and allowed her to pet him. I warned her that he may try to kiss her, and she stuck her cheek out. He popped right up and licked her. Such a ham, but definitely not something I want him doing on a regular occasion. Reaching up to shove his face in peoples face is his one bad habit (can farting be the other extremely bad habit he has?). So hopefully this collar will give me the control to prevent that from unexpectedly happening, and help his manners. He just loves people SO much.

Regardless, life has been great for all of us. Ace has been living the life of luxury, and we have been pampering his every hope and dream. His kennel resort is getting closer and closer to being finished. I posted a pic of the proud new homeowner below. We still have minor incidents with him stealing socks, or being spiteful if left in the home alone, so he's still crated while we are at work/sleeping. I have been working on letting him have his crate door open at nights, but he constantly does drive by kisses in the middle of the night, so often that I cant get a good rest. I'm working on my patience and learning how to sleep further in the bed. . I really don't enjoy having him crated so often, but he's pretty understanding.

The real problem we now face though..... is the fact that my dog is now the most spoiled creature on earth. Observe below.

Sometimes, he gets the full spa treatment. Rub down, treats, face massage and complimentary tucking in bed.


Other times, we binge watch horse movies/shows together (his preference, horses are his favorite to watch.) I've started thinking that he may need to go get a real job and start supporting himself, he's on the fast track to being a full time couch potato! My "no dogs on the furniture/bed" rule seems to have been vetoed by both future husband and dog-in-charge..... I tried (not very hard, admittedly)


He is pretty great at being a seat warmer any time you get up and worry about coming back to a cold cushion.


But god forbid my fiance or I leave the house for a few minutes without him. (He has zero separation anxiety, thank goodness, but really wants FULL attention given to him when we are back in).


And last but not least, the proud new dog-resort homeowner. Its still mid construction obviously, but coming along. Still have to poor the concrete floor (drainage already installed), seal the wall for the separate indoor area, install the fencing, and add the auto waterer/AC/heat. Its a two stall run, and I am being held captive on getting another dog until its complete. Obviously you guys can tell this isn't something meant for him to "live in". Just more space for him to enjoy while we are at work/on the boat. My fiance keeps saying he thinks he is moving into the resort, and just letting Ace have his side of the bed. Works for me.



So yeah. Life's good, dog is good (and healthy!), and we are chugging along! I never knew how much a doberman would change my life, but I am so happy to get to share this time with him. He's definitely my once in a lifetime dog.

However, you guys did NOT prepare me for the amount of huffing/puffing and sass I was going to get! He's pretty compliant, but if he's unhappy its ALL I HEAR ABOUT for the next twenty minutes! Huff... Puff.. Huff... Puff... stand in front of me... heavy sigh... go lay down with his back to me... more huffing. more puffing. It really cracks me up, every single day, lol.

Hope everyone is doing well, and their dogs too!

Edit: forgot to mention, he is now weighing in at 90lbs!!! He's about 28" at the wither. He's still the biggest of his litter!


If I had to give any bit of advice to a new puppy owner, it would undoubtedly be don't ever play chase. Ace will sometimes pick up items he shouldnt (socks/dryer sheets/trash), and we can walk over to him, and he won't run away. He will put his head down sulking as we take it away from him, but there is NO chasing him whatsoever. He doesn't try to run off and avoid us, and we know that if he grabs something he shouldn't, we can get to him and remove it quickly, without all the games. Heck, sometimes he will even bring it over to us on command, but that is the slowest walk ever. Our friends recently got a puppy, and he will steal stuff constantly. Then they spend the next 20mins trying to corral him and capture him to get the item back from him. Doesn't look like much fun!
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Hell... thats a real nice kennel......tell Ace to move over ...I com'in in !!!!!!
Good to hear from you.........keep checking in wif us...............he looks absolutely stunning!!!!!
NICE EARS!!!!!! I remember when you were first posting that little wiggle worm!!!! Nice job!

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Wow, on the kennel resort! Thanks for the update, too. Glad to know all is well. Ace is looking good - you've done a great job with him. He looks and sounds like a real sweetheart.

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Hell... thats a real nice kennel......tell Ace to move over ...I com'in in !!!!!!
Good to hear from you.........keep checking in wif us...............he looks absolutely stunning!!!!!
NICE EARS!!!!!! I remember when you were first posting that little wiggle worm!!!! Nice job!
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Wow, on the kennel resort! Thanks for the update, too. Glad to know all is well. Ace is looking good - you've done a great job with him. He looks and sounds like a real sweetheart.
Thanks guys. Its been such the joy. I really value all that I have learned from this forum, and hope to make everyone here that offered their guidance proud.

His left ear is definitely slightly floppy, but has no issues standing. Definitely should have posted another month, but its not so bad! Only I can notice.

Its always fun in the house now. My fiances favorite thing to do is blame the dog. Left the lights on in the bedroom? "Ace's fault". Clothes missed the hamper? "That dang Ace!". Ace always just looks at me and sighs, almost as if hes rolling his eyes too. Bahaha, but those two are the best of buds. Adventuring everywhere together. But I am convinced Ace is half human with his reactions to most of our conversations, lol.

I cant believe I have lived this long without a dobe! What was I thinking.
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Wow that is some dog resort, I am jealous or should I say my two dogs are so I will not be showing them that picture
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Wow that is some dog resort, I am jealous or should I say my two dogs are so I will not be showing them that picture
What happened was...

We were considering tearing down this building, as it wasn't being used much. Instead, my crafty, talented fiance figured we could just revamp it, remove some boards, add some things here and there, and it be nice enough for the dog.

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He sure has grown up handsome. You need to update your info panel. Surely he's not still a "<1" puppy, is he?

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Reaching up to shove his face in peoples face is his one bad habit (can farting be the other extremely bad habit he has?). So hopefully this collar will give me the control to prevent that from unexpectedly happening, and help his manners. He just loves people SO much....
Good luck training the farts out of him. If you figure out how, I think there a lot of folks on here who would like to know your method. LOL



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If I had to give any bit of advice to a new puppy owner, it would undoubtedly be don't ever play chase. Ace will sometimes pick up items he shouldnt (socks/dryer sheets/trash), and we can walk over to him, and he won't run away. He will put his head down sulking as we take it away from him, but there is NO chasing him whatsoever. He doesn't try to run off and avoid us, and we know that if he grabs something he shouldn't, we can get to him and remove it quickly, without all the games. Heck, sometimes he will even bring it over to us on command, but that is the slowest walk ever. Our friends recently got a puppy, and he will steal stuff constantly. Then they spend the next 20mins trying to corral him and capture him to get the item back from him. Doesn't look like much fun!
New puppy people, running away from you is a good thing to keep control of.

The answer: NEVER chase after your dog to catch him or take away a "toy". It's better if you don't even call them to you (except in an emergency) if you're planning to stick him back on a leash or take the toy away. And certainly NEVER call him only to yell at him, even if he's been ignoring your "come" for 10 minutes. If he is moving toward you, praise up a storm. Don't set him for failure--know the limits of his training and don't ask him to come if you know he's going to blow you off. Just work on his recalls more during your training time.

I generally go to them, like Chesa describes, to get them. I have taught a "wait" command which tells them to hang out a bit until I can catch up. That way I can get an enthusiastic recall when I actually do have to call them in.

The other thing that is important is to teach a "drop it" command. So many dogs see you coming and simply swallow the offending thing (like icky stuff you find on a walk, or actually dangerous things they shouldn't have in their mouths). If they know "drop it", and figure they'll get something good to trade for the nasty but desirable (to them) thing they just found, you at least have a chance to get it away from them.

I used to...well, not exactly praise...but cheerfully say something like, "Ooh, you found a yourself something special. Look what you've got!" when I see one with a sock or other forbidden thing in their mouth. Then they'd come up to me to play with it, and I could do a quick trade for whatever it was. That turned into a "bring it" kind of thing. They would do a proud puppy dance through the room to show me the latest prize. And show no hesitation coming up to me so I could admire it too. I'd get the chance to do a trade for something really special (Often just my undivided happy attention would be enough).

And I would turn that "Dang it. He's got a sock." into a mental warning to keep stuff picked up and out of reach.

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He sure has grown up handsome. You need to update your info panel. Surely he's not still a "<1" puppy, is he?



Good luck training the farts out of him. If you figure out how, I think there a lot of folks on here who would like to know your method. LOL





New puppy people, running away from you is a good thing to keep control of.

The answer: NEVER chase after your dog to catch him or take away a "toy". It's better if you don't even call them to you (except in an emergency) if you're planning to stick him back on a leash or take the toy away. And certainly NEVER call him only to yell at him, even if he's been ignoring your "come" for 10 minutes. If he is moving toward you, praise up a storm. Don't set him for failure--know the limits of his training and don't ask him to come if you know he's going to blow you off. Just work on his recalls more during your training time.

I generally go to them, like Chesa describes, to get them. I have taught a "wait" command which tells them to hang out a bit until I can catch up. That way I can get an enthusiastic recall when I actually do have to call them in.

The other thing that is important is to teach a "drop it" command. So many dogs see you coming and simply swallow the offending thing (like icky stuff you find on a walk, or actually dangerous things they shouldn't have in their mouths). If they know "drop it", and figure they'll get something good to trade for the nasty but desirable (to them) thing they just found, you at least have a chance to get it away from them.

I used to...well, not exactly praise...but cheerfully say something like, "Ooh, you found a yourself something special. Look what you've got!" when I see one with a sock or other forbidden thing in their mouth. Then they'd come up to me to play with it, and I could do a quick trade for whatever it was. That turned into a "bring it" kind of thing. They would do a proud puppy dance through the room to show me the latest prize. And show no hesitation coming up to me so I could admire it too. I'd get the chance to do a trade for something really special (Often just my undivided happy attention would be enough).

And I would turn that "Dang it. He's got a sock." into a mental warning to keep stuff picked up and out of reach.
Only method we have found that works is to evacuate the building. Although usually when we go running, Ace becomes concerned and runs with us... The smell always follows, and I have to explain to the poor dog that I need to get away from him because of that terrible smell!


What you mentioned is exactly what we do with Ace. "What have you got?!" in a upbeat voice. If I say "Drop" hes about 90% good on that command, but every now and then will just hold it. Depends on his moods. But a quick "Trade you for a treat" usually gets him to drop and leave it well.

I still need to work on training with the fiance on not leaving the socks around on the floor.... but I can only work so much magic lol. Dogs are easier.

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I still need to work on training with the fiance on not leaving the socks around on the floor.... but I can only work so much magic lol. Dogs are easier.
It's because dogs actually seem to care about pleasing the SO who makes a request.

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Here's a bit of ear information for you so you don't continue to worry about the somewhat soft ear--ear cartilage hardens for years after puppyhood. That's why I tell people to not worry about ears when the tips are flopping around when the dog trots or runs. In the very long show crops that "apparant" softness occurs in part because of the length but in shorter crops as the cartilage ages (along with the dog) it will stiffen more--for several years.

Sounds like a pretty entertaining guy--hope you have lots of fun with him.

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Let me start off by saying, so thrilling to see Ace in the family of his dreams.

Chesa - Let me possibly share a "sock paradigm shift", with you.

Having owned 3 dober girls, I have come to realize their common nature...to be treated humanized.
- bringing them much joy and fulfillment
- its the power of their unique Smarts, that is fun to expand boundaries on

So current Kelly has been helping Mom, unload the clothes dryer...since 10 weeks old.
- she would pick out a clean pair of undies or socks...and walk to the master bedroom, with her Momma
- Dad taught her to debark sticks outside, and spit out foreign matter
- so around here, stuffies last for years (because all toys have names & rules of conduct)
- no risk of blockage or obstruction surgery either
- hard toys can be treated rough / soft toys are treated, with more respect
- and slippers, our shoes & dads socks...OK to mouth & carry for fun, but no wrecking them
- this added level of responsibility @ a very young puppy age, has payed off in big dividends
- they know Human stuff, is OK to borrow...but never hurt it
- our girls quickly figure out that they have few rules here / the leather section, is even their nappy bed (during daytime)

The more Rules we broke (since 1977), the easier it got...in sharing our Life together.

For Example, when Beau came out of the shower (few days ago) / Kelly stole one of my clean socks...I just laugh, and grabbed another pair // while making an exciting time over her controlled mischief.
- after yesterdays shower, Dad is sitting on the edge of the bed (starting to get dressed)...Kelly brings Dad, yesterdays sock (she hid earlier, some where) back.
- its her game, as she plays with her care givers

Baby Bunny & Dads Sock...



And Moms Shoe...all Adult personal stuff, treated with the Doberman Love.
- and a nice reminder, of the Family affection & the "big Tease" they become (to welcome our attention)



Debarking & learning to not swallow the foreign crap...was trained young.
- even a rare squeaker found out of a toy, are safe here...Dog will spit it out & leave it on the floor


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I must have jinxed myself somehow yesterday. Had our first emergency vet appointment after posting this. Ace was okay, but experienced a rectal prolapse. It all happened within 20 minutes, and corrected itself in the next 20min trip to the vet. He never once showed any discomfort, irritation, or even knowing that it happened. Had full energy, and life was normal in his world.

She examined for a hernia, but doesn't believe that is the case. She didn't feel one. Found a very small rock though, so she wonders if maybe that is what caused it initially. Straining to get that passed. He doesn't eat rocks, but he does chew sticks on our gravel driveway. Unfortunately our area is largely gravel, so limited options there. So he's on watch for the next few days to see if it happens again. If it does, we have bigger problems. But, this morning everything functioned properly, so praying things are done and over! she mentioned about if it continues to consider neutering him, but she didn't explain the relation between the two.

He loved the trip... my wallet did not.

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I must have jinxed myself somehow yesterday. Had our first emergency vet appointment after posting this. Ace was okay, but experienced a rectal prolapse. It all happened within 20 minutes, and corrected itself in the next 20min trip to the vet. He never once showed any discomfort, irritation, or even knowing that it happened. Had full energy, and life was normal in his world.

She examined for a hernia, but doesn't believe that is the case. She didn't feel one. Found a very small rock though, so she wonders if maybe that is what caused it initially. Straining to get that passed. He doesn't eat rocks, but he does chew sticks on our gravel driveway. Unfortunately our area is largely gravel, so limited options there. So he's on watch for the next few days to see if it happens again. If it does, we have bigger problems. But, this morning everything functioned properly, so praying things are done and over! she mentioned about if it continues to consider neutering him, but she didn't explain the relation between the two.

He loved the trip... my wallet did not.
Poor Ace! Hope that was a one-time thing. I hear you on the ER costs and also how scary it is to have to rush to the e-vet. Glad he seems okay now.

If he's really a very determined rock-eater, you can consider a basket muzzle for outdoors. I know a few folks that have to use them for various reasons - grass or stick or mulch eating, that kind of thing. It's pretty easy to get a dog used to liking their muzzle (you can check out the muzzle up project online for good training advice there, just google it). A nice, lightweight basket muzzle can be so useful for dogs that like to eat things, and keeps them safe from their own bad habits The lightweight greyhound muzzles fit Dobermans very well and are inexpensive - under $20, usually. You can find them online.

Glad to see how well Ace is doing!


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Poor Ace! Hope that was a one-time thing. I hear you on the ER costs and also how scary it is to have to rush to the e-vet. Glad he seems okay now.

If he's really a very determined rock-eater, you can consider a basket muzzle for outdoors. I know a few folks that have to use them for various reasons - grass or stick or mulch eating, that kind of thing. It's pretty easy to get a dog used to liking their muzzle (you can check out the muzzle up project online for good training advice there, just google it). A nice, lightweight basket muzzle can be so useful for dogs that like to eat things, and keeps them safe from their own bad habits The lightweight greyhound muzzles fit Dobermans very well and are inexpensive - under $20, usually. You can find them online.

Glad to see how well Ace is doing!
I will definitely keep that in mind!

He typically never picks random things up and eats them, not usually rocks. He will chew his stick on them, and I assume some small fragments could be ingested, but he doesn't ever eat the stick. Just chews it to shreds and leaves it in a pile. But I just had a small lightbulb. I recently gave him a new himalayan cheese chew, and it did crack in a few places very small shards, but I thought i picked up most of them. That would be more his type of ingesting. He loves those chews. I wonder if one of those was mistaken for a rock, and could be the culprit.

Probably the last one of those I buy for a while, just to test the theory.

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Glad to hear about Ace ! You may not believe this - but I was thinking the other day how he was doing

Somethings like the huffing and puffing —- You just have to experience first hand — lol. Hard to put that in to words before hand

I will disagree with you on and I think most will agree. With me But our Dobes are the most spoiled lol

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Me to I was thinking of Ace....and here you are.............Love it!
Always nice when the universe cooperates......now universe lets get Ace's pooper all mellowed out!!! Real soon............
Hoping for a smooth outcome.......YEAH........stay in touch !!!

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