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Lick Granuloma Ugg

Well look what Hoss developed in 2 days.....one day noticed him licking ...by the next day we had this........
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So....gave him some Galliprant to keep inflammation down and coned him used some Derm a vet in hopes of preventing further problems.... ............looking better now.....no redness........hairs growing in ....skin back to natural color........darn these can happen so fast......
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These are the best cones I have ever used....put out by Kong............attaches with Velcro strips.
These cones are the way to go they are actually long enough to prevent Hoss from reaching his back leg.........
Can you believe they charge $28.99 for this cone..........but .........it works.
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Here’s more pics if interested...
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Here’s the cone details.....boy you gotta catch these quick.......or they can turn into something messy and expensive.
So now I am using water/vinegar as an astringent ...........
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Poor Hoss and the cone of disgrace !

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Have you compared that foot to his other one? I'm wondering if he could have an underlying something (irritation and callus development from rubbing on floor or other surface, or scar tissue/thickening skin secondary to some other issue) that made him go after that foot. Or maybe an injury, foreign body (thorn) or just itchy feet because of allergy/skin irritation. Not that dobes need an excuse to start licking.

Kip had some kind of something on the side of his rear leg...I can't quite remember what. But I do remember that he had a sort of lump with thickening tissue on the outside of his leg. It was very difficult to get it to heal. He'd lick at it a lot (he was a closet licker), but we ended up surgically removing some of it. Anyway, there was an underlying problem that was part of his constant licking. I just can't remember what.

Age catches up with you. Maybe Bug will know (she always does)....

Sometimes there is something other than just nerves and dobe OCD at the root of the licky-licky impulse.

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dobebug just finished retaping Toad's latest incursion as a closet licker and lick granuloma former.

Toad has always been terrible about licking even the smallest scab, bite or scratch into a giant mess in no time at all. I've learned over time that for him cones (no matter how effective they maybe on other dogs are not the answer for him) Ultimately my solution is to bandage his lick spots, muzzle him and keep him bandaged and muzzled until the spot has not only healed entirely but has grown hair to cover the original area that was licked bare (and bloody--ick).

The bandage consists of a Telfa (not stick type gauze--Telfa is brand name--I buy the Winco copy at about 1/5 the price). If it's raw I put a big blob of mupiricin (prescription--works best but you can substitute a triple antibiotic gel or cream) on it and tape it in place over the licked area. On top of that goes a thick pad of (usually) 2 X 2 gauze pads held in place by a strip of Vet Wrap (this is the ideal kind of application for vet wrap--over boney areas like feet of legs) I also keep the No Lick version of Vet Wrap on hand--it help stop licking to some extent). I put a wrap of that over the whole thing--tape it at the top with wide Zonas type tape and at the bottom with a more narrow band of Zonas type tape.

Depending on the weather--I change the bandages daily if they started out on a raw and bleeding spot--and if it's wet out. As the areas starts to heal if it doesn't get wet I can sometimes leave it on a couple of days. And when it's actually healed but still growing the first bit of hair I can leave it taped for three days before changing the bandage.

AND he wears a muzzle--until he's entirely healed with new hair. The muzzle only comes off for him to eat. The reason cones don't really work well on him is that he has a whole routine of moving the cone aside to rub or scrape or lick the spot. The padded bandage keeps him from rubbing the spot with the edge of the muzzle (which he also learned to do)

And I'm as guilty as many owners--feeling sorry for my dog in his Hannible Lector gear so I get sucked into leaving him unbandages and sometimes without a muzzle and that's what I did this morning so he had a 5 minute window during which he licked the spot raw again. Danged dogs--it's always something.

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PS--Why dogs start to lick--Dobes don't need a reason since they are the poster kids for OCD but as to what happens under some of these lick spots--often they start out with just a minor ding on top of a boney protuberance--just a high spot on the bone--then they lick the same area over and over (sometimes out of boredom--and every time they make a raw spot and it eventually heals it tends to form a callous or thickened area which also seems to be of more interest to the danged dog. Sometimes there is actually something physical going on with the area but with my dogs at least it seems to be more boredom and licking at a chosen spot--once I can get hair back on the area they seem to loose interest and find another spot to lick.

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Kip lived in taped-on socks. They worked especially well on the back legs where you can tape around them up above the hock (not to his fur), cut off the bottom below the knuckle/wrist and tape it too, and they'll stay on. He wasn't a sock eater, so that was OK, and even if he started licking it slowed him down a bit.

Seems like they can rip those sores open in 15 seconds flat.

Cold laser treatment helped us with a couple of stubborn front leg granulomas.
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LOL--I know that look--one of my long ago Dobes was dying from kidney failure and licked and licked and licked mostly his front legs and wore long socks up above his knee which did slow him down some--they were heavily padded under the socks and taped to hair above the knee to keep them up.

Poor Perry--when the kidney issue got really bad I took the socks off and he made that last sad trip to the vet before he actually was in physical distress.

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I feel for you! My previous boy, Simon, had lick granuloma, and it was a PITA to get resolved. There'a whole long thread on it somewhere on DT. We ended up with the muzzle route, too, along with cold laser to help it heal. It was truly a nightmare.


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Here’s a look at today.He seems to be ignoring it now.....and redness gone.Fortunately I caught this before raw.....so hopefully will not scab over.Thats when trouble happens....the hairs try to grow under the scab...then you get ingrown hairs...but luckily not this time.If anyone notices
Wet areas check them as these lick granulomas happen so fast.
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