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Whining!!! Please help

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Hinata is 11 months old now and she is doing great except a few things. She is crate-trained till she is with us which is going fine. Almost!! She is very well behaved at the crate during the day and she never whines or barks. We never leave her inside the crate more than 4 hours. She can stay at the house free roaming without any problem for several hours. The problem starts in the morning. When I monitored her she wakes at 5.35 every morning and waits till 6.10. After that she starts to whining. I can tell that she is bored and wants to do something. I take her to a forest every morning for 2 hours which includes training, playing, running and hiking. I never let her out while she is crying to prevent rewarding the behavior. However in that case it takes too long to let her out. I tried waking up before she does and let her out and progressively increase the time interval. It just doesnít work after 6.10. I also tried free roaming during night in which she behaved very well but came to me at 5.35 to wake me up and when i ignored her she waited till 6.10 and start whining freely at the house. I also tried letting her out at different times every morning so that she doesnít associate a specific time with freedom. I am just trying to sleep till 7. As I am a doctor and sometimes I came home very late and I feel the need for sleeping till 7 (which is 4-5 hours of sleep). My wife is recently handicapped like for 6 months now and she is not able to take her out. I m expecting your opinions and I value them a lot.
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It's possible she just needs to go to the bathroom right when she wakes up? What happens if you let her out and then put her right back in the crate? (Kinda like getting up to feed the baby in the middle of the night...if you do it right, you can stay asleep the whole time. )

Maybe you could have a prepared frozen kong on hand to give her when she wakes up that would keep her occupied for an hour or so in the crate (or loose, if she is trustworthy.)

Some dogs are unfortunately just early risers. Mine would get me up early-ish to potty and then head back to bed for a snooze until 10 AM or so. Of course, then I was up watching them sleep.

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Some dogs whine a lot, regardless. Our senior is one.

It is late and I have to go to bed, but I will explain more tomorrow.

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When I let her out the walk to the forest takes around 15 mins and she doesnít potty until she gets to there. I m %100 sure itís not a bathroom issue. I never tried to let her out and put back in. I can try that. She just goes crazy because she is happy to see me But again she does the same even when she is free roaming during the night where she is able to reach me
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Good morning Doc . When I started reading your post - I was like Mel - I thought she may need to potty -- Then I read your second post - then went back up and reread your first post -- lol

So this is my diagnoses -- Dobermans not only need lots of attention - they Demand it - I think your little girl is just saying - come on dad - time to get up and see me - play with me or just to be there - The key to me is -- you said you can take her out , but she don't go potty first thing - She may just be anticipating your time together out side is near .

You may think " I'm Not right " here - as many do - but I think they do get set in a routine - or that they do know time - Ali always lets me know when it's time to get her treat at noon time - lol

Kasia -- Sometimes would do what your girl is doing - I would wake up - like somebody was watching me - I would look around and there she was -- Staring at me - lol

One other key to me was - when you let her free run and she still does it - again - she just wants you to get up . These dogs have a bond with there owners that is almost unbreakable - That is there job in life

How to fix this ???? I have no idea - It goes with the territory of having a Doberman .

Hope your wife gets better soon

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Oh how I remember the breaks in sleep .........
Till this very day at 6:45 PM he will come and stand between me and the TV...........if I try to ignore him.......he dobie smacks me with his paw.
That's always been his time to go outside and see what's going on.........
At 11 months .....your pup is still a baby.................hang in there ...as they get older they will learn to enjoy sleeping till 7am.........with Hoss I noticed alot of changes around 18 months.....mental stimulation burns these little puppers out quicker than anything.......Hoss's favorite game is hide and seek .........we hide his favorite toy........started this game at 1 year old .....he stills love it..........after few minutes ......we call the game and he settles in............sometimes we will do several rounds...few minutes each time.........once we go inside he's tired.....time to be tucked in with his blanky !!! LOL He's asleep by 8PM...........
I would suggest a short get up to let him out for potty......then back to the crate and give a Kong with frozen food in it...........make dog wait till 7AM......even if whining ........try some ear plugs allowing you to block out sound...............I used them.......it allowed me to sleep and force a schedule.

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Do you feed her at a particular time in the evening? The easiest thing for me to adjust when it comes to my having to let them out in the AM is the change their PM feeding time. It is very much predictable. Delay the feeding by an hour will buy you another hour in the morning
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I sooooo feel your pain. I really, truly do, as I have a bitch that was the same, and it took too long to fix the problem.

First question - is the crate in your bedroom? If it is, my first suggestion is that you need to move the crate to a different room. If it's already in another room, what I'm going to say is that since you've definitively said she doesn't need to go out to potty, I'd go back to crating her (so she can't get destructive), and you are going to need to TOUGH IT OUT and not let her out until the time that you want. I'd do it gradually. Start by increasing it maybe 20 minutes. Get a white noise machine or ear plugs or whatever it takes to block the noise.

It CAN be done. You can train her to get up later. It might help to also adjust her evening meal a little bit later at night - I feed my dogs' meals 12 hours apart (so I feed at 7:30 am and 7:30 pm) and that way they aren't starving in the AM. It did take a while for my girl to learn to sleep later. And I'm not going to lie...it was very unpleasant for a while - we were awake, listening to the temper tantrum.

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