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9 months old now and looking like a man!

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He is looking great! I like his little pocket on his coat
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Hey Louise......Axel is looking great........nice jacket !!!
Heads up to keep pressure off the boys under belly..........snug on ribs......is OK..........but if the strap riding below the rib bones keep loose.
But maybe its looser when he’s standing up I suppose. Anyway........he’s huge!
Well I/we are doing good.....getting ready to take a trip to West Virginia to go hiking and take in some fall colors. Hoss will go with us....he’s pretty good at hiking ...we go to a place called Cooper’s Rock National Forrest......lots of fun.
How are you doing in your new position..........?
Man o man Axel’s head is HUGE .....and he’s got more growing to do......!!!
Hoss started nosework classes......we have fun in that class............finally a class where the dog already knows what to do......find scent........its the humans that have to be trained to notice their dogs have found the scent. Gets me off the couch !
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Yeah LadyDi.....the whole coat looks tight when he sits down, but standing it’s perfect

Have a fantastic time hiking - I am very jealous, I need a holiday!
New job is going well albeit very very full on!


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So good to hear from you............Axel is sure a good looker ......but I certainly would not want to piss him off either.....what’s his love at this time..........doing any group classes?
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Boy he's so manly looking ! Great looking young man !

Is it me - But his face reminds me of a Young Baron .

We are doing fine - I guess - We have started harvest here - had to stop - ran out of beans ready to go and corn is still to wet to run , We look at the beans this afternoon - thinking we will try and go again tomorrow and then cut to the end , Then go to corn . Hope everything is going great across the pond

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So good to hear from you............Axel is sure a good looker ......but I certainly would not want to piss him off either.....what’s his love at this time..........doing any group classes?


Hell no.....other dogs are not his thing! We are taking it slowly just regular walks and training at home to try to slowly resolve/grow out of the dog issues!


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Hell no.....other dogs are not his thing! We are taking it slowly just regular walks and training at home to try to slowly resolve/grow out of the dog issues!


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Yeah taking your time when dealing with reactivity is a good thing............Hoss was real reactive when he was younger ......I would say as he approached 3 he mellowed out quite a bit.
Shoot......dog gone males ...they have so much to prove when they are young buckaroo's .............
Then they develop strong self confidence and they learn to relax...with age!
Hoss has dogs that he loves to play with...but for dogs that are unfamilar to him he sounds off.........it seems he is a different dog when leashed or in the fenced yard........he's very protective.
If he is loose ..........he plays and zoomies like crazy with familar dogs.
But within a pack of dogs he becomes a yapper........almost like he is the referee and in charge.....bark bark bark........me I don't like that yapping .......so I socialize him with familar dogs.......1 visitor at a time..........this works for us.......then he is exhausted for days!!!
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Yeah taking your time when dealing with reactivity is a good thing............Hoss was real reactive when he was younger ......I would say as he approached 3 he mellowed out quite a bit.

Shoot......dog gone males ...they have so much to prove when they are young buckaroo's .............

Then they develop strong self confidence and they learn to relax...with age!

Hoss has dogs that he loves to play with...but for dogs that are unfamilar to him he sounds off.........it seems he is a different dog when leashed or in the fenced yard........he's very protective.

If he is loose ..........he plays and zoomies like crazy with familar dogs.

But within a pack of dogs he becomes a yapper........almost like he is the referee and in charge.....bark bark bark........me I don't like that yapping .......so I socialize him with familar dogs.......1 visitor at a time..........this works for us.......then he is exhausted for days!!!


Axel went into daycare for a day over the weekend. He was assessed by the kennel owner whilst he was there and we had a huge long chat. Long story short she has owned many reactive, destined to be put down, dogs mainly German Sheps.....she told us that what she sees in Axel is absolute and utter fear of other dogs. She said he is terrified about what might happen and so is reactive. She made me cry while I was taking to her

He was bitten by a tiny terrier on an extendable lead so if we see any dog on an extendable lead now he goes off! Some days are better than others. We have to constantly talk to him while we are waking to try to reassure him.

Anyway, that was just a little update for you all......and what comes with an update?! A PHOTO!!!

This amazing photo was taken by Sarah, the lovely lady at the kennel
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Such a handsome young man.

It sounds like you're having a tough time with his reactiveness? Dang it--I'm so sorry.

Do you have access to a canine behaviorist? It might be time to get an opinion/assessment from someone who has had formal training (or maybe your daycare kennel person does??) in Axel's familiar surroundings and set up a specific step-wise training program to help him deal with it.

If you haven't already. You're on here so LITTLE, , I don't know what you've done and what you haven't. Anyway, don't be such a stranger.

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Such a handsome young man.



It sounds like you're having a tough time with his reactiveness? Dang it--I'm so sorry.



Do you have access to a canine behaviorist? It might be time to get an opinion/assessment from someone who has had formal training (or maybe your daycare kennel person does??) in Axel's familiar surroundings and set up a specific step-wise training program to help him deal with it.



If you haven't already. You're on here so LITTLE, , I don't know what you've done and what you haven't. Anyway, don't be such a stranger.



And hugs and kisses to Axel.


Well we have paid hundreds for a behaviourist who helped us initially but he seems to be going through a tougher period.
The kennel owner gave us details of another guy who charges £120 an hour so we are considering it but with doing the house up and Christmas we don’t have the funds at the moment.
On the plus side, Axel is amazing in all other ways....walks to heel, waits to be told he can eat, isn’t food reactive, loves people, doesn’t destroy the house, sleeps soundly in his crate at night, pees on demand etc etc
I can’t be down on him too much and tbh I don’t NEED him to like other dogs, just not react!



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On the plus side, Axel is amazing in all other ways....walks to heel, waits to be told he can eat, isn’t food reactive, loves people, doesn’t destroy the house, sleeps soundly in his crate at night, pees on demand etc etc
Well, that right there outweighs any problems you may be having. LOL
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Just my 2 cents here L - But if I'm thinking right here , Axel won't be a year old till ? What ? Feb ? He is just young and unsure of things . I know TN had some deals with Mocha and I sure have had some little issues with Mr. Business and other dogs - he get's all jacked up sometimes - most times they start talking smack with him first - but other times - he starts it - barking and carrying on , After a few minutes around the other dog - he well settle down . I took him to group OB classes and that helped a little - the problem is I need him around other dogs more - not less . I talked to Patty - the gal that is in charge of the Dog training in Anderson Indiana - said bring him on up - we are wanting to start Rally OB in Jan . She is the one that told me he needs to be in the show ring type environment = around other dogs , like I said more , so he can get use to it . From what I just read - Axel does good at everything else - that my friend is a big plus ! You only have one thing to work on really --- the same as me . Mr. B needs to be around strange dogs every day till I can get this worked out of him - and I truly believe that will work - but have to stay after it . Maybe you can talk to your trainer and see if he thinks getting Axel more evolved in class work - 2 or 3 time a week . Now this is just me thinking out loud here , But I have to really disagree with the lady that said Axel is terrified of other dogs - I don't believe that for a second ! He is unsure - not terrified . Like the idiot with the extended lead !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What was Axel thinking ? This other dog is running at him - I would say that Axel did a great job for not ripping off the other mutts head ! I may be totally wrong here - but with lots of work around other dogs - he will be ok


BTW Axel is sure a looker !!! Great looking Dog !

Double btw - Don't let this get you down ! Head up and full steam ahead !

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It's tricky to try to diagnose anything online--so much depends on how he's reacting, when he's reacting, his body language--no one can see any of that when they're not there with their eyeballs staring at the dog and his behavior, seeing how you folks handle him when he reacts and watching how he responds.

With a really reactive dog, one place to start is to keep him far enough away (from another dog, if that is the trigger) that he never gets aroused, and then to work on attention exercises, until you can slowly get closer and still keep your dog focused on you. His reaction may be situational...maybe a class would help. But it would need a great deal of care, advanced warning to the class instructor as well as a lot of knowledge from that instructor, to make sure that the reactive dog isn't actually getting reinforced in his behavior. And of course, you have to think of the other students and whether you are interfering with THEIR learning experience.

So much just depends on the severity of the dog's reaction and how "set in stone" it is in terms of knowing what direction to take to work with the dog.

His age does mean that he may be still in that possible teenage fear stage, which I'm sure doesn't help in determining how he may develop from here. A tricky situation all around, which, like you said, ECIN, will in all likelihood take a lot of work, long term, and maybe always a little extra vigilance to deal with.

I don't think unfixable though, given that his behavior in other venues appears to be exemplary
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We’ve done the classes.....he has diahorea for 3 days afterward so we just aren’t doing it to him anymore. It doesn’t seem fair. He cries the whole time and we spend the whole time correcting him whilst the other dogs run around together.

We are good with keeping axel at a good distance, we have even got him to a point where we can do the “watch” exercise to get him to focus on us and not the dog.....however it’s other dog owners that aren’t considerate. Extendable leads grind my gears so hard it’s ridiculous......and then the other owner looks at us like Axel is some sort of danger to society. GRRRRRRRR

We will get there! He has come a long way....it’s been a bad week but over all he is improving! We take him to a field to run and he made friends through the fence with a lurcher and they just raced and raced each other for ages! It was nice to see
No heckles, no growling, no aggression from what I observed....just over excitement and the desire to play. He would bark everytime the lurcher stopped racing.....Axel beat him on stamina that’s for sure!

Ups and downs, but progress overall.

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I always heard that England has a lot of rain and can be a muddy place, but really!!! His coat looks like an airedale's! I do love the foam decorations over his nose...always a sign of much fun.

I hate, hate, hate those extendable leashes.
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I always heard that England has a lot of rain and can be a muddy place, but really!!! His coat looks like an airedale's! I do love the foam decorations over his nose...always a sign of much fun.



I hate, hate, hate those extendable leashes.


I should try and post a video and show you what he was running through!! You can assess his reaction to the lurcher too!! Will give it a go in a bit


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Ewwwwwww......and a very nice mom for letting her baby get filthy because he was having fun.

Here I always thought my picture of Capri was sorta impressive (I think she sat in a mud puddle) but it seems she was amateur and a tyro at that, compared to your professional mudder.



Maybe we need a "Dobes in the Mud", or "Dirty Dobes" (no innuendos intended) instead of "Water Dobes" as a calendar category next year.
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Well he looks great!
Hoss tends to be reactive if he does not spend time around other dogs.
After many different attempts I found training classes to be the most controlled atmosphere for Hoss.
And during that process you still have to be so proactive to ensure your pup has great experiences (stupid people in training centers also).
But schools have rules that are followed, so that helps.
Hoss is turning 4 and I found he became more confident between 2.5 years and now.
With Hoss I always keep a close eye on targeting......after he gets the stare going things start happening.
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Captured this shot of my husband, daughter and Axel while we were hiking today....
Any chance we could have a “hiking with our Dobes” calendar entry?!



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Where was this? Absolutely beautiful!
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