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How long can I crate my 5 month old puppy ?

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I have a 5 month old female dobermann Hinata. I work as a dentist for 3 days and doing researches on the other 4 days of the week at home. I take Hinata out everyday at least 1.5 hour in the morning and 1.5 hour in the evening. When I m at work she is always together with my wife. When I m home we are always together. But starting from next month my wife and I will not be at home at the same time on wednesdays from 10 am till 5-6 pm. She is sick at the moment and she needs to visit her doctor regularly. Do you think I can crate him that long for only day of the week ? Rest of the week we are all like glued to each other. I live in an isolated area far from the city center inside the forest so I couldn’t find any dog walker or visitor. I appreciate your help.
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Welcome to DT doc.

Pups should not be crated longer than 4 hours straight.
- many don't have a mature bladder
- some have more than 1 bowl movement / in an 8 hour span
- and soft stools, on occasion / to deal with

Personally, by 4.5 months young...
- I have successfully trained our last 2 girl, to be "home alone" unsupervised on a leather sofa in the living room
- when we get a 10 week old fur-baby, this dad teaches puppy >> toy rules of conduct
- soft toys are treated with respect / hard toys are for chewing
- so quickly, our pups have learned to not chew pillows, sofa blankets, oak coffee table, etc.
- I even teach pup, how to debark a tree branch and spit out the bark / I train to eliminate "obstruction surgery" at a very young age
- I start in week1 home and start testing "home alone" at 3 months old
- in 2 > to 5 > to 10 > 15 > 30 > 45 > 60 minute intervals
- developing early house manners in puppy, was the Key to unsupervised success later on
- its all about / providing necessary rules, expectations & boundaries on human belongings/furnishings
- and our 10 week old girls, learn this before bad-destructive habits set in

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How old is will your pup be when this will happen? You said she's 5 months now and this starts next month....so will she be 6 months? 6.5?

8 hours for a 5 month is tough, 6 months would be better.

You could always put a large sturdy baby gate in a bathroom and leave her in there.
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Have you thought about hiring a pet sitter to let her out half way through for about 30min.? I did and it was the best decision. She lets her out, makes sure she has water and gives her some treats and plays with the dogs and then back to the crate.
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Thank you very much for all. I m so glad that I joined the forum because everybody seems to be very helpful-and help is not something that I can find easily.

As far as I understand, in case I don’t leave her in a crate, I can leave her in a puppy-proof room with toys, plenty of water and puppy pads so that she can potty. I never left her alone and I really don’t want to because I don’t want her to suffer any anxiety issues. That’s why it makes me suffer the idea of leaving her alone for prolong times. I tried to find a visitor and I still do, till so far I m not successful.
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Skip the puppy pads / they encourage bad habits...plain & simple.
- no good comes from them, the lazy-owners approach

Look for a win-win solution !!
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I dunno...puppy pads or newspaper can create bad habits, especially if you start training using one, but so can leaving a dog in a crate for longer than she can hold it. Or for that matter, anywhere in the house for longer than she can hold it.

If you can't be there often enough to let a puppy out---well, newspaper is not ideal, but it is what it is.

At least you can take a puppy pad or newspaper away when you no longer need it; your carpet, not so much. Pottying in the crate is not such a good thing either.

Way back when, when we were unable to be with our puppy while we worked, I fixed him up in the kitchen. We put a barricade in the doorway (apartment) and a little newspaper in one corner. He did take longer to train than is typical, but it was not a huge deal. If we were home, there were no accidents. We took him out regularly. If we couldn't be home, he spent his time in his kitchen...and yes, did use his newspaper. When he got older with better bladder control, and the newspaper eventually disappeared, there were no more accidents.
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Hi,

it depends on how large the crate is. I have an outdoor kennel that I keep in my home, I can leave for hours and have no issues. They play in the crate too.
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I want to address something as an aside - you DO want to leave your puppy home alone on a regular basis, or you could create some serious separation anxiety issues, especially with this breed. If they don't practice being away from you and alone on a regular basis, you can create real problems for yourself.
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I want to address something as an aside - you DO want to leave your puppy home alone on a regular basis, or you could create some serious separation anxiety issues, especially with this breed. If they don't practice being away from you and alone on a regular basis, you can create real problems for yourself.
Great - Great Post Meadowkitty ! This is very true - We farm - So both of us are around them most of the year - Office is here at the house for the farm - then come spring or fall when I'm gone - the wheels sort of fall off - as the other day - I was gone all day shelling corn - left at 5a.m. - home around 10:30 p.m. - wife was NOT happy - My buddy - Mr. Business missed dad and howled for a half hour - Wife said he would not go to bed - just cried and howled - I will say - He was happy when I got home and I don't think he could have slept any closer - then Ali laid just as close on the other side - But this is not a good thing - and it's hard for us to - as to get them use to us not being here - if that makes since -


When my wife worked on the farm - things were a lot better - for the dogs and us

BTW - I think the 5 months is to long to be pinned that long - with out a accident - also lose the idea of pee pads - not a good thing - but that's just my opinion

And Welcome ! From East Central Indiana
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And to echo MeadowCat a little, start getting her used to being left alone now. It will be hardest for her if you or your wife is (nearly) always there, and then suddenly you are both gone for a long time. Start with the longest you’ve left her, then each day, leave her alone a little longer. You want her to learn that nothing bad happens when she is alone for longer times. That way, when you need to be gone, it won’t be sudden and scary.
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I was going to say the same thing about teaching her to be alone, but everyone else already covered it.

My Mom has a dog with severe separation anxiety, my grandma lived with her and was home with the dog almost 24/7, when she passed the dog developed severe sep anxiety because she had never been taught to be alone.
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Have you tried Rover? It's like Uber for dog sitting. I am a pet sitter on Rover and it's much easier to find sitters in rural areas with the app! People do drop in visits where it's half hour visit to let the dog out, feed them etc. Or daycare. My current dogs did daycare when they were young and it was great socialization as well as a savior for me, as I worked in an office at the time.
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