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Lately I have been reading through old posts here on DT and reminiscing on a lot of once frequently active members, their thought filled posts, and sometimes even the heated discussions that make DT a great source for everything doberman. I thought I would start a thread where we can ask about, thank, or remember members that are no longer active or who have since passed.

If you are thinking about someone in particular or simply read an old post by a member that you thought was very helpful you can leave a little note here.
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Does anyone know what happened to RedFawnRising?



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And the nice lady from Spain, her dobe Toby and the stone fence & organic olive trees.

And LindaH was the expert on pet nutrition...so informative & helpful to others.

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General Observation:
A ton of interesting members left 2-3 years ago / seems to be common, on other forums too.
(garage, car related) - FB, twitter, video games, etc / who knows ??
But one things, for sure:
- some tag team DT fights, went on way to long & feeling get real Hurt...members drop out, and never come back
- some tolerance, is always best...but damage done

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Does anyone know what happened to RedFawnRising?
I came on here 2 1/2 years ago. (Yeah, a very short time ago). RFR was part of a fairly heavy handed group who, even with the best of intentions, tended to alienate newcomers. Personally, having owned Dobermans since 1974, being fairly knowledgeable and having a great love for the breed, I was offended. Some us challenged them. Continuously... Several left. RFR was one of them.I am sorry for that.

Honestly, the tenor of this site changed very quickly. While not implying cause and effect, it is a fact. Even newcomers with unpopular or ignorant opinions are now treated with respect. We open dialogue and don't just slam people

I wish she would return, as with the others who left or limited their involvement.

Just be nice....

As far as those who left long before I came, have not a clue.

If i have offended anyone with this comment, my apologies.


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I have also wondered about the members already mentioned but also about monicaei and Herb2relax. I used to really enjoy speaking to those 2 ladies years ago in chat or pms.

I hope everyone is ok and just got busy with life stuff.

This forum has definitely changed over the years. I am not very active anymore although I do tend to lurk.

And I'm still crushed about JobeyV. I always had a good chat in pms with her even when I wasn't actively posting.



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I have also wondered about the members already mentioned but also about monicaei and Herb2relax. I used to really enjoy speaking to those 2 ladies years ago in chat or pms.
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And the nice lady from Spain, her dobe Toby and the stone fence & organic olive trees......
Toby’s Human--seems like I remember that she was either moving to France or had moved, last we heard.

Anyway, I was thinking of her just the other day, because I remember her talking about how difficult it was for her family, not being native to Spain, to be accepted into their community...and I think the area of Spain which has had all the trouble and has voted to break away from Spain (Catalonia) is the area where she lived.
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I miss many of the members that had such a passion for the breed and the unwillingness they had to let ignorance ,and bad concepts go unchallenged. This site always had several threads going that provided some very intelligent info but these threads seem to getting further and further apart.
I miss RFR and God bless Dobebug.
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I joined in 2008, 4 years before I got my first Doberman. It was fine, everyone was cordial to me...until 2012 when I shared that I had put my deposit down, and when I had concerns, I was one of those members that was attacked and was very harshly bashed and slammed... apparently people were thinking I was tainting the breeder's reputation by voicing my concerns and confusion about getting a puppy from them. You can still look at my old threads and see the posts from older members.... because of this is the reason I left. I did not feel like I could post a question without feeling criticized and getting attacked, even got PMs bashing me. There were a select few that were very kind to me, KCFilley was one (last on almost 2 years ago).

I finally came back earlier this year, Zuko is now 5 and I have managed to raise him just fine. I feel if I were to make the same thread today I don't think I would get the same critical responses, but they do still happen. There will always be some, but I feel it has gotten much better over the years, people are kinder, people are more accepting of newbies, and moderators have cracked down on banning those that constantly bashed others and have not let members get away with so much negativity.

Just my experience with DT. I lurk more often than post now, but I will continue to roam DT as long as I own a Doberman and continue learning about them.
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Hey SP, I'm still here, just don't contribute much lately because Spocksdad's ship (my job is master) got activated for a mission back in August and I'm away from my DW and Dobes and home for a while

We carried a load of mil equip to/from PG and are now headed back now to CONUS. (That's what we do) Here's a view out my office window on ship (bridge) as we entered a central Med port in ideal weather.



Another shot our agent in Turkey took of my ship berthing at dawn:


I haven't seen or touched my or any dogs in over two months (just scrawny dock cats) Finally on a short stop in Turkey on way back through Med from canal, a dock dog was on pier when ship pulled in. He was a cute, skinny and curious thing that was supposed to be a "security dog" for pier but make friends with everyone he could (see pics)

3rd Mate "Kat" making friends with "Tasucu" in Turkey:



When I saw Tasucu, I realized how much I missed Spock & Eva, and yes even Lanah. Being away for so long is a huge portion of a Dobe's life, especially since they are both over 7 y/o. I enjoy reading DT daily (yes we have limited Inet on our ship using VSAT)

I am planning to retire after this trip, ending 35 years of shipping out. I want to be like Beaumont 67 and enjoy a nice retirement with my Dobes (and DW...) 24/7/365!

SORRY FOR HI-JACKING THIS THREAD!!
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Thanks Spocksdad For helping keep all us DT ers safe ! BTW -Hope the food they feed you all is good ! As I help raise it - lol If its not - let me know and I will b-t-h to higher ups - lol

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We carried a load of mil equip to/from PG and are now headed back now to CONUS. (That's what we do) Here's a view out my office window on ship (bridge) as we entered a central Med port in ideal weather.



Another shot our agent in Turkey took of my ship berthing at dawn:

Did you sail from the Port of Beaumont? I know that a bunch of military equipment goes through there.


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Thanks Spocksdad For helping keep all us DT ers safe ! BTW -Hope the food they feed you all is good ! As I help raise it - lol If its not - let me know and I will b-t-h to higher ups - lol

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And the nice lady from Spain, her dobe Toby and the stone fence & organic olive trees.


I don't come on here much anymore and never contributed all that much but I did love the stories of Toby and the spanish gardens. Such a good storyteller

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I have also wondered about the members already mentioned but also about monicaei and Herb2relax. I used to really enjoy speaking to those 2 ladies years ago in chat or pms.

I hope everyone is ok and just got busy with life stuff.

This forum has definitely changed over the years. I am not very active anymore although I do tend to lurk.

And I'm still crushed about JobeyV. I always had a good chat in pms with her even when I wasn't actively posting.

I've been away for a while, has something happened to JobeyV?
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Some may see some who are being critical as being loyal to the breed. The problem is that all of us when we started in the breed were ignorant. Most of those just as a person here a day or so ago felt they were being loyal to their breeder. Their breeder was an obvious byb but obviously also comes across to first time buyers as being knowledgeable and probably charismatic. So the first time buyer feels loyal to that person more out of emotions then knowledge. If we just chastise that person we just drive them away. What knowledge then could they possibly gain? If instead we try to welcome them and try to educate them. Building friendships and trust will open most people up to be able to listen. But to ridicule them and shut them down we could end up making more bybs out of them. By shutting people down we could be our own worst enemies. So being loyal to our breed our desire should be to educate others.
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She died in a tragic car accident recently - her son posted the news.

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I don't miss the fights, but I certainly miss some of the people. There used to be some really knowledgeable and reputable breeders on here - but most have left for Facebook pages. I personally have not bred a litter in over 5 years - and am not very active at this point. I've got two kids in college and tuition trumps show dogs for a few more years.
I also am thankful for Dobebug's decades of knowledge!!
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It is extremely hard to remedy ignorance without challenging it.

However, some methods are more likely to be productive & constructively received than others. I'm surprised some folks spent so much time not suffering fools, it's so repetitive and pointless, and there are more important and interesting things to be concerned with besides correcting people who are wrong on the Internet.

I miss the folks who were striving to do great things with their Dobes, such as jywel417, it seems like it's been ages in Dobe years since I've seen a Ricky Bobby update. Hope all is well, I think attempts to balance Dobes rather than focusing only on conformation showing or working titles make the breed stronger.
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I''ve only been with you for a bit over 3 years but fondly remember Smilin' Gus of AugustusMcCrae. She was having some behavioral issues with Gus, I sent her a PM, but never heard back - hope all is ok with her family and Mr. Gus.
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