I don't think I've ever seen someone call out a member for purchasing from a byb unless they clearly knew better and ignored our advice prior to a purchase. This is the point TN was getting at. As a membership we understand that a lot of new members come here without knowing better and buying from one of these bybs, and that's okay. This new person already has the pup and lecturing them on making a better breeder choice is a moot point. We're going to help them find the ear crop vet, give posting lessons, help with food and vet care and hope they stick around to gain a little knowledge, learn about great breeders, make better future buying decisions and even help out the next guy or gal who comes here seeking doberman help.
The unique thing about DT is we're also going to stick up for the breed itself and call it like it is when we need to. It's been that way since the beginning- at least the 12 years I've been a member. Our mission has been to help preserve and better the breed while making more knowledgeable owners out of everyone in the process. This is even noted in the rules when you sign up, and it's said too that DT is not for everyone because of this.
I appreciate your comment (rebuttal?) I don't see where you and I are even remotely at odds.
Offer help, welcome newcomers. Pass on past experiences that might be helpful. Console those who have lost a beloved pet. Anything that can assist a Doberman owner.
Attitude and presence is what I was referencing. Opinions and suggested info vary on any topic. Politeness and understanding are what is extremely important.
Personally, I have so much experience with our chosen breed that I would not even know where to begin. Yet, I don't believe that I have ever been heavy handed with a fellow commenter. Especially a first timer.
BTW. Your words: "I don't think I've ever seen someone call out a member for purchasing from a byb unless they clearly knew better and ignored our advice prior to a purchase."
Nonsense. Maybe not recently, but it was very prevalent when I first arrived on this site.
Just to remind you, it was when the DT moderators started intervening in some of the nastiness that was going on here that several of the worst offenders packed up and left.
OK enough of this.
Oh.. Feel free to cal me John. Most of my friends here do. (Or STJ!... Stop That Johnny ! LOL)
John Lichtwardt (STJ!)