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Ear Posting NIGHTMARE!!!!

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To start off, this is my first post on here as we have been super busy with our new puppy! I plan on posting a proper introduction here in the near future.

Now, on to the subject at hand-- we are having the absolute worst luck with posting our puppy's ears. After we are finished, he shakes his head violently until they pop out. We CANNOT get them to stay in. We've tried everything we are supposed to do. We have been using backing rods, we thought the 1/2 inch may have been too big, so we went and bought 3/8 inch. A little better luck but we've read those are too small for a 12 week pup. We have called our breeder a million times, we've had a Doberman owner of three come over to our house to try and help us with no luck, we've ransacked these forums and have watched just about every YouTube video there is on it, etc etc. we've tried making the ends smaller to better fit in his ears, and putting duck tape around the rod to make it sturdier. We've basically tweaked it every which way to try and make it work. The only thing we have not tried is zip ties. I'm not sure if there is much more anyone else can provide that we haven't already attempted but we are desperate.

We got him from a VERY reputable breeder and his ears were cropped by a VERY reputable ear-cropping veterinarian. We are wondering if there is something wrong with the base of his ear or something. We don't want him to have horrible looking ears later on down the road. He's going to the vet tomorrow for a general check up as well as have his ears checked out.

Any more advice anyone can give is much appreciated.
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Have you tried using the tampon method and taping a bridge close to his head? I tried the backer rod and my boy gets those out too.

Are you twirling the rods in so they are as far down in the ear as they can go?
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Hi, thank you for your reply. No, we haven't tried the tampon method yet, and this would be the tampons with the cardboard, correct? And yes, we make sure the rods go as far down as possible and also pull up on his ear at the same time.

I guess I also should have mentioned above that all the while going through this taping struggle, he's scared of the rain and will not go potty in it. Not only that, we have no idea what to do because if/when we actually do get his postings to stay, the last thing we will want to do is get them wet.
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I forgot to mention that we have also been using a bridge. The one that worked the best was when we used a sturdy backing rod as the bridge. But that was also when we had the skinnier backing rods in his ears, so...
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Just put a grocery bag over his head when it's raining and tie it to his chin. I started with the tampon, moved to backer but I like the tampon because it's so much sturdier. I found it much harder to get out. I also use more tape than most esp. Around the base of the ear so no dirt gets in there and it's harder to get out of the ear.
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Thanks so much! It's good to hear that the rods didn't work for you at first either. We will definitely be picking up some tampons tomorrow! We'll also be trying the grocery sack over his ears as well. Thanks for the tips!
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My Killy was a headshaker and a "picker" (digging with his hind legs). He had a small ear infection. We let ears hang while we got that cleared up. Once it cleared up he accepted posts much better. However I must say even with all his fussing the posts stayed in, they just weren't lasting very long... maybe 2-3 days instead of 5. Are you using Zonas tape? In my opinion that is the best brand. Are you backtaping your posts to make them sticky? Are you "screwing" the post way down inside the ear (this won't hurt him; dogs' ear canals are sort of L-shaped)

Sorry you are going through this, must be so frustrating Maybe a member here close to you can assist? I would in a heartbeat but I am sure you are not in Maine. I do recommend the vet check for ear infection, though. Killy had no smell or doscharge yet had a minor one brewing and it was irritating him.

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There's a new alternate method that people are using successfully using either zip ties or corset boning in lieu of posts made from tampons or the insulation rod material. See if your breeder can connect you with someone, or contact Dobiewankenobie here, she made a ear posting video for her puppy owners.
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He very well could have an infection going on, so good job on getting him an appointment with the vet . If he does end up having one, just follow through with the meds and let them air out w/ no posting.

If he doesn't have an ear infection, and you are ensuring everything is cleaned out well and aired out... you can always use medical glue to glue the posts in. My prior vet used to do that but what I didn't like it was definitely more of chore to clean up between each posting.

This is what I used to glue in the breath right strips.
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Hi there! I'm thinking he may have an ear infection. We noticed last night that they have a slight odor and are a little red in/near the pocket area.

Yes, we are using Zonas tape and also backtaping the posts. We twist in the rod as far down as it will go and also put a thin layer of baby powder on the insides of his ears using a cotton ball.

You are correct, we are far from Maine! . Thanks for your reply!
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He very well could have an infection going on, so good job on getting him an appointment with the vet . If he does end up having one, just follow through with the meds and let them air out w/ no posting.

If he doesn't have an ear infection, and you are ensuring everything is cleaned out well and aired out... you can always use medical glue to glue the posts in. My prior vet used to do that but what I didn't like it was definitely more of chore to clean up between each posting.

This is what I used to glue in the breath right strips.
https://www.medicalmega.com/medical/...ZTIaAvRr8P8HAQ
Hello! Yes, we are cleaning it out very thoroughly and letting it dry. Is it okay to let them go without posting for a few days at 12 weeks old? I believe his ears were cropped around 8 weeks.
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If there's an odor there's probably an infection, that's usually a good sign.
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I recently posted a puppy (not one of mine) for someone locally and showed them how to do it. When I cleaned the puppy's ears, it was apparent he had ear mites and thus shook his head vigorously and popped the posts. Have his ears checked for infection and/or ear mites.


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Get any infection taken care of first. I also use the tampon method (Tampax tampons). We tried the backer rods first, but it was not sturdy enough. He always shook them out.
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Thank you! He has an appointment in 3 hours so we will find out about an infection. The fact that your dobe shook out the backer rods too gives me hope!
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I use the zip tie posting method. I really like it. Super easy. My boy has a full ear crop. He scratches his ears after I'm done, but has not been able to pop them out. It may be worth asking your breeder about this method.



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I didn't use any other method other than the tampon method, and I LOVED it.
I was very nervous since this was my first Dobie, but it went super smoothly.

He didn't like it.
But the turn out was great.
I did bridge them. But honestly didn't even leave them bridged but for a day.
But it all just depends on the crop and how you like them to look.
Sven (my Doberman) didn't get the show crop. So maybe they were a little easier for that reason.

Good luck !!!
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