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Airline travel with a doberman

If anyone has any advice or experience on airline travel with your dog, I'd love to hear it!

I am having issues finding the proper sized kennel for traveling. The requirements are "your pets head or ear tips, whichever is higher, cannot touch the top of the crate"

With her long legs and cropped ears, I haven't been able to find a single kennel tall enough for the airlines requirements. Plenty of kennels out there that have more than enough room for her to stand up, sit down, turn around, and all.. (Including the ones I already own) but none tall enough for her ridiculously long legs, and ears; which add an extra 4 inches to her height
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I'm not sure who you're flying with, I fly with Delta. They aren't THAT picky really. I believe my crate is 36Lx27Hx24w. I know G. hits the top because she stands 25.5 at the shoulders. They just want to make sure the dog is comfortable. Also, for Delta at least, they have a policy that they won't fly a dog, in over 80degree temps and under 10 degrees.

One thing I didn't know is you MUST supply a water bowl (this was a no brainer for me) and a food bowl and food (The food is taped to the top of the crate).

LASTLY and MOST IMPORTANT!!!! Be sure, as you're boarding the plane to check with the flight attendant that your dog is on board. I was told this by a friend, who is a flight attendant. On my flight back to CO they almost forgot Gretchen and would have had I not checked. I preboard since I also have a dog as carry on as well, so I could watch them load the luggage, no Gretchen, so I asked the flight attendant, watched her call, watched the puzzled looks on the loaders faces and then 10min. later I see them bring out Gretchen. And, at least in both of my cases, the dog was the last thing loaded after the luggage.

Good luck!
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Just for 2 hours flight I have to have Chee on cargo plane and me on a passenger plane. I am scared. I think I am going to get a ride or go by train where I can visit my dog's wagon every 2-3 hours. But the total will be 15 hours. Not sure what I should do. Those mistakes are freaking me out.

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I have flown with two different dobermans. One internationally (US to UK/UK to US) and one domestically within US.

For my male doberman who was about 27.5" at withers and I think 4 years old when he flew from San Francisco to London, I *think* via British Air. Gosh, been 10 years now... I bought a Varikennel 700. He originally had a 500 but I did not think it would have been large enough for air travel so I bought a 700. It was quite large but gave him adequate space. I think we returned on Continental (now United). Never an issue with that size crate.

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For my female bitch she flew domestically from New Jersey to Los Angeles at about 18 months of age in a Varikennel 500, I think on United. She was probably about 24" - maybe 24 1/2" at withers at that time. That was totally adequate sized for her. She subsequently flew back from LA to NJ in same crate a couple years later. No issues.

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If your bitch is pretty standard size, a Varikennel 500 should totally be adequate sized.

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Looking at their website, I think the sizes correlate as follows:

500 = Extra Large 40″ x 27″ x 30″
700 - Giant 48″ x 32″ x 35″

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I have only flown with Westjet and i always ask them when i board to check that my dog(s) are on. They also give you a ticket that is handed to you once the dog is on the plane so that you are aware that they did put them on. I have used a vari-500 for my male dobe and not had problems. Diesel is flown in Zinger crate (he actually cracked the back of a vari kennel in my van) which is a about the same size. No issues. I have only had my dogs weighed twice and even though he was over the weight limit, they still let him on. :-)
If you are going to fly a lot i definitely recommend the Zinger. Worth the $$.

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I had one pup flown from Mexico to the US at about 8 months old and they had the same ridiculous requirement... in the end, his owner had to have the crate customized. Different airlines have different requirements, so check around if you can fly with someone else or if not, PM kaloric on here, he can give you more details.
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Just for 2 hours flight I have to have Chee on cargo plane and me on a passenger plane. I am scared. I think I am going to get a ride or go by train where I can visit my dog's wagon every 2-3 hours. But the total will be 15 hours. Not sure what I should do. Those mistakes are freaking me out.
If it's a 15 hour flight how long would a train ride be? That seems like a really long time for your dog to have to hold it's bladder.
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If it's a 15 hour flight how long would a train ride be? That seems like a really long time for your dog to have to hold it's bladder.
I think brujj means that the flight would be 2 hours long but they are completely freaked out by potential airline mishaps, so they're considering going by train - where they could change wagons and go check on their dog every so often but the flipside is that it would be a 15 hour train ride.

My breeder uses air canada when he's had to ship out a puppy out west. He says in spite of their advertised limits, they do take a grown male in their regular flights (as opposed to having to ship through Air Canada Cargo). I would assume it all depends on each airline, but usually the sizing guidelines is with the pet's comfort in mind (like temperature limits as well as the fact snubbed nose breeds are required to have better ventilation and a kennel that is one size larger than what would normally be appropriate). I think as long as the pet has enough room to get up and turn around, most of them aren't too picky about specifics.

If you are unsure, feel free to phone an airline representative and talk to them.
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The other thing you need to keep in mind is that you need to check with the airline you hope to fly on to make sure the plane cargo door will accommodate a crate the size of a 700--most commercial flights can get a 500 in the cargo doors but there are lots and lots that can't get a 700 in the plane even though it is the size they require.

I used to occasionally fly dogs but as regulations get stricter and flying a dog gets more and more expensive I'd think many times before I flew another dog.

I didn't realize that Canada still allows dogs on the passenger trains--it's been ages since
you could do that in the States.

I pretty much drive if I want a grown dog to go someplace with me. And I pretty much don't plan any lengthy trips any more because of that.
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Lufthansa, air canada, Aeroflot and I believe a few American Airlines allow pets in cabin. Most other airlines have recently changed their policies or simply lie saying they are full for let in cabin status. Always check airline website policies before you travel with pets, and call as far ahead as possible to the flight to inform of your pet in cabin
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Pets are only allowed in Cabin if they fit in a carrier small enough.
ESAs and Service Dogs (or certain working dogs) will be allowed on the plane without a carrier.
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