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Boil or Raw Bones?

In the summer I would give the dogs raw bones outside, but now that it is freezing outside and want to give the dogs bones inside should I boil them first? I don't like the idea of raw meat all over my floor, especially with kids rolling all over them. What do you guys do?

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I would not advise giving the bones boiled, it will soften them and they could splinter. You could soak them in apple cider vinagar first, this will help eliminate bacteria. I would teach the dogs to only eat their bones on a special mat. I put a bedsheet down for the dogs and they keep their bones on that. Also, giving them the bones frozen will also help with the mess.

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my suggestion is either, give them in a crate, raw, so you don't have the mess all over, or continue outside, skip on the boiled ones. There is a foot of snow in my yard, but my gang are still having their bones outside. Shorter periods of time, and sometimes they have to go dig them out of the snow but they don't mind. They are now enjoying vension ribs, funny how long they are, they happily go out and naw on them.

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I ONLY gives Raw or Frozen Bones.
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I always and only give raw. It doesn't take Gunner long to clean the meat and marrow out of a bone but while there is "stuff" on it he lays in his bed, on a sheet on the floor or in his crate.


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Now this is a good question!!!! I was always told never to feed raw bones to a dog because of parisits you know worms and such. I was told to smoke or slow cook them? Do I listen to the vet or long time dobie owners?
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Now this is a good question!!!! I was always told never to feed raw bones to a dog because of parisits you know worms and such. I was told to smoke or slow cook them? Do I listen to the vet or long time dobie owners?


I would NEVER give cooked bones to a dog! Only give frozen or raw bones like this Raw Meaty Bones - Excellent for Teeth & Gum Nourishment
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I have been waiting for the occasional warmer day. Then I put Ruby in her coat and send her out onto the deck with her raw bone. If it's too cold for that, it's crate time. There is no way I want raw meat rubbed all over the place. She loves to carry her bones all over the house, but I let her do that only when she's eaten away the outside meat. She usually settles onto her dog beds to lick at the marrow.

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Thank you I now will go buy bone from my butcher. Cause draco dose get the nala bone too.
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I've been wondering about the raw bones as well when our pup comes home. We dont have - or I havent found - an independent butcher near our home, so I'm curious as to whether anyone buys from, what needs to be asked, etc. from a local grocery store butcher? My closest would be an Albertsons.

I certainly dont mind ordering them - was just thinking of convenience.
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I've picked up soup bones from our grocery store if I see sizes that are big enough for him.


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Our grocery store stocks the 4"-long beef marrow bones pre-packaged in the meat case, usually in sets of two. They're labeled as Soup Bones or something like that. Tess loves, loves, loves 'em! I feed them raw in the house, but we don't have any kids to be concerned about.

The link you sent, DobeGirl, made me wonder: do you all feed raw chicken bones to your Dobes too? Even raw, I'd be concerned about those smaller, more brittle bones.


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I would NEVER give cooked bones to a dog! Only give frozen or raw bones like this Raw Meaty Bones - Excellent for Teeth & Gum Nourishment
Thanks a lot for the link, Dobegirl! Can I feed those to the two month old puppy? I do not want her completely on raw but I love the "30% of the daily ration" idea (as this manufacturer suggests) for a dinner with 1 or 2 recreational bones per week.

OH, never mind - same site different page, dah!
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Great! I'll have to run up & take a look at our grocery store to check. {I'm almost embarassed to say I'm not the grocery shopper in the house..lol.. so I'm lost when I go inside!} :biggrin55:
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Thanks for the responses. I put Baruch outside/garage with the raw bone this morning. I just feel bad he is out there cold and alone and not inside warm with us just to eat a bone. I think I am going to save the raw bones for when I go somewhere and have to put him in his crate. We are having crate issues we need to work on (as seen on an older thread with torn carpet pics), so this should work out.

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The link you sent, DobeGirl, made me wonder: do you all feed raw chicken bones to your Dobes too? Even raw, I'd be concerned about those smaller, more brittle bones.

Raw chicken bones are not brittle at all. They are chewy and bendable, if that makes sense.

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grocery stores are charging way to much for marrow/knuckle bones these days, see if there is a meat packer any where in your area, much cheaper source. Beef ribs are good too, takes them a long time to wear them down, and they can't get their jaws stuck inside.
at this time of the year too, if you have a friend who hunts, see if you can get the bones when they butcher their kill, butchers don't like having to despose of them.
the risk of parasites, no higher than for feeding raw, I do fecals and have yet to have any at my house.

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You reminded me that the garage is an excellent choice too; we did that just last weekend because it was raining. I just had to keep peeking in to make sure that Ruby wasn't nosing through the recycling. She likes to shred newspaper.

Oddly enough, we have a fancy butcher store right in town, but they only sell smoked bones. Smoked things do not agree with Ruby's delicate stomach. The Shop Rite is where I get some very nice bones. I freeze them for later use.

My husband is a hunter, but I don't know if deer bones are good for dobies. I've always stuck w/beef bones.

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I think grocery stores have picked up on the fact that doggie people are buying marrow bones (labeled soup bones) I use to buy them for .87 cents for two or something under a dollar, now they are almost $3.00 dollars!

I buy all Jasmine's and Meeka's bones from a local butcher. What I like is I can tell him exactly what I want. Really I don't mind paying a little more for something that will last a long time, unlike bully sticks.

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I just set a ex-pen up on my tile floor and put the dog and the raw bone in the ex-pen in the nasty weather. Crates would work as well but the floor is easier for me to clean. That way I have a small area to clean up. Only use raw, never boil or cook them as they can splinter.

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Beef ribs are good too, takes them a long time to wear them down, and they can't get their jaws stuck inside.
I'm bumping this back up to ask more info about the beef rib bones. I've read the Raw Feeding FAQ but that seems to apply more to adult dogs who you have already moved over to a raw diet.

Can I give Axel a whole beef rib bone at 11wks old? If so, should I trim away any of the meat. Never having had a dog that I fed raw - or began introducing it too - was just curious if I should pare away most of the raw meat on it or just let him have it & see what he thinks? Or should I just start adding a bit of raw hamburger or something to his kibble before just diving right in?

Just want to make sure I dont totally upset his tummy!

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I feed raw meaty bones about three times a week, midday. I feed in a crate, or spread a blanket on the floor, and teach them they have to stay on it.

They should not be fed at the same time as a kibble meal, because kibble and raw are digested at different rates, and feeding together increases the amount of time the raw food is in stomach.

I also adjust the amount of kibble I feed on the days I feed meaty bones, decreasing the kibble accordingly.


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Thank you Stone Hill

He tried his first one last night & was wild about it! We trimmed all but about 3 real bites of meat first because we didn't know how it would work with his system yet. And I didn't let him have it until about 2hrs after his evening kibble so he didnt really get an 'entire full meat' bone. Just enough to see if he was interested.

I'm another one who would like to feed 50/50 down the road because I am reading a lot of good stuff about Raw in general. Next time I will go by the instructions you {and DoberKim} provided regarding adjusting the kibble, etc. and let him have the full meat on the bone.

He sure got the zoomies after gnawing it clean :biggrin55:
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I only give the big marrow bones, but I do give them a quick boil so I can remove the marrow. The marrow can cause the runs as it is all fat.
I do like to freeze them too!!!!

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