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Fussy eater

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I was wondering if anyone could help me? Tia is a VERY fussy eater and we are trying to get a little weight on her because she is VERY slim. We will give her a certain type of dry food for a while but then she will 'go off it' and we will have to find another brand of dry food that she likes, untill about 2 months later when she 'goes off it' again. We have also tried her on wet food but the same happened with this as well. She just spits all of her food on the floor!!

She is currently eating Bakers (the softer ones) she absolutaly loved these for the first few weeks and started to put on a bit of weight (which is what we wanted) but now she has decided that she doesn't like these anymore and is refusing to eat them, hence losing this little weight.

I really don't know how to make her eat, we have spoken to some friends about this and we have tried putting gravy on her kibbles (she licks off the gravy and leaves the kibbles), feeding her chicken and rice (she just picked out the chicken), giving her porridge in the morning (ate it for about 3 days then decided she didn't like it) etc.

Can anyone hlep with this please?

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Wow...YOU have created a nightmare I'm afraid. Quit babying her and give her whatever kibble she does best on and don't change it. The more you try to "entice" her to eat the more picky you are making her. If she doesn't eat her food then fine, pick it up and she doesn't get one bite of ANYTHING until her next scheduled meal, which should be cut in half. If she doesn't finish that meal either, then her next scheduled meal will also be half of what she should get. Not until she finishes every last bite quickly does she get a full meal AT HER NEXT MEALTIME. Don't give her MORE at the same meal just because she finishes what you gave her. The only way to fix the problem is through tough love and not encouraging her to eat, because that has exactly the opposite effect.

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hi laura been there done that LOL

right get rid of bakers its rubbish.

go back to puppy food its higher in callories.

when we had this trouble with zeus we went onto eukanuba, very expencive but noe we have put his weight on we are on iamms.. but bakers is not good food !!

put the correct amount down in the morning.. to intice her you can put some boiling water on it.. it makes it smell nice to get her to eat.

leave it for half an hour.. take it up not eaten or half eaten !!

put the correct amount down again in the evening !! same again.

it took zeus 3 days to eat.. after that he would gobble up every bowl.. some days now he still has an off day and doesnt eat anything but hes problems are sorted.. i did exactly what you did cos you love em and want them to eat.. but changing foods is not good for dogs tummys !!

so follow the instructions above cos it worked for us.. dont worry if she doesnt eat for days.. you will be over the moon in a week when she is eating 2 meals a day happily !

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The above posters are correct. Tough love is the only way! I babied my last Dobe, Dax, when she was a puppy and created my own nightmare. She became a "grazer" and continued this her whole life. She was the only dog I have ever had that I had this problem with and I was determined not to do this with Baron. He tried to control the food situation but it didn't work and now I have a great eater. We put the food down and his regular times and it is gone. No more food all around the house. Believe me, the tough love works. Its hard but stick with it. Good luck. Lois
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been there, done that. lexx was fed raw and was the pickiest eater on the planet. finally i gave up, bought a good high quality kibble ( Wellness CORE) and started him on it. 2 cups in the morning, if he didn't finish, it went down to 1.5 cups the next MORNING, no night meal.

it took him around... hmm.. 2 days to figure this out, now he's very excited about every meal.

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been there, done that. lexx was fed raw and was the pickiest eater on the planet. finally i gave up, bought a good high quality kibble ( Wellness CORE) and started him on it. 2 cups in the morning, if he didn't finish, it went down to 1.5 cups the next MORNING, no night meal.

it took him around... hmm.. 2 days to figure this out, now he's very excited about every meal.

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Yes indeedy. Been through the picky eater ringers

Advise, and this will be hard to do on a puppy - you will think you are starving her, but it is for her good going forward:

1. pick a good kibble that she likes. Stick with it.
2. Breakfast day 1: put down 1/4cup, give 10 minutes for her to eat it. No eat, pull it up without any fuss. She doesn't get any food until the next regular meal.
3. Next meal: if she didn't eat before, put down 1/4 cup again. If she did eat before, put down 1/4 + 1/4 = 1/2 cup. Allow 10 minutes to eat.
4. Next meal: repeat - didn't eat before, offer 1/4cup again. She ate before, put down 1/2 + 1/4 = 3/4 cup. Allow 10 minutes.
Keep doing this until you are at the target per meal feeding amounts.
And don't despair - my dog as a puppy went four days without eating, then it clicked. We have since been through several cycles of this tough love and the time he goes without eating is shorter and shorter - he gets it. And we figured out we - the people parents - were to blame in a lot of instances because we would change foods mid-stream trying to find the best food by our reading of labels and reviews.
Irony - we are now on Science Diet Sensitive Stomach and have not missed a beat in over a month now..
so stick with it. Be firm. It's for her own good.
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I agree with all the others. Fussy eating is almost always trained behavior. It's an insidious game, where the dog will wind up controlling the entire household. Don't get sucked into it.



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I've had multiple dogs and horses all my life (40+ years) right now we have 7 (dobes) never had issues with non eaters until 2 years ago and today we still go back and forth with him eating not eating. (he's just a pain in the a--) but being that he is a show dog and close to finishing, not eating was not an option, because under weight, he don't stand a chance. So I resort to stuffing him, that is when he doesn't feel like eating. This week he is eating. I feed a mixture of Pro Plan sensitive stomach, the new PP shredded and raw-natures variety. If he doesn't eat it I soak it in hot water to soften, make balls and help him swallow. See I can't afford to let him go through what other posters have suggested although I may agree, at least not until he is finished. (1 more major) The other day I broke down and bought the "Fresh Select" stuff from supermarket sold in rolls and regrigerated, doesn't appear to be too bad, chicken brown rice and he really likes it. Will see how long that last. good luck
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Hey dobigang, I know you were just relating your story with your kid, but I always hesitate to mention stuffing to a pet owner, even anecdotally. I work at a vet clinic and met a woman whose sister had mentioned stuffing her own dogs when they wouldn't eat. The woman decided to try this on her poor springer and attempted to shove down a bolus that was too big. The poor dog ended up choking, inhaling some food and seriously injuring his esophagus.

Only show dogs who don't eat "should" be stuffed, and I say should very lightly. There is no reason to ever stuff a pet dog unless you are being assisted or instructed to by a veterinarian. Tough love will work. Make sure to add some warm water so the dog doesn't feel like he's trying to choke down a bowl of dried corn flakes and be strong. It WILL work!
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Ah, and "should" you even stuff a show dog?


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Exactly why the quotations were there. Conformation seems to be the only venue in which the fancy finds this even moderately acceptable. I think it's a cruddy practice personally but I acknowledge that it happens. Thanks for the clarification though.
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Hey dobigang, I know you were just relating your story with your kid, but I always hesitate to mention stuffing to a pet owner, even anecdotally. I work at a vet clinic and met a woman whose sister had mentioned stuffing her own dogs when they wouldn't eat. The woman decided to try this on her poor springer and attempted to shove down a bolus that was too big. The poor dog ended up choking, inhaling some food and seriously injuring his esophagus.

Only show dogs who don't eat "should" be stuffed, and I say should very lightly. There is no reason to ever stuff a pet dog unless you are being assisted or instructed to by a veterinarian. Tough love will work. Make sure to add some warm water so the dog doesn't feel like he's trying to choke down a bowl of dried corn flakes and be strong. It WILL work!
Have a good point, tough love is always the #1 choice but if all else fails...
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Ah, and "should" you even stuff a show dog?

In 40 years it's the only time I felt the need to and certainly because of my ego and the quest to finish him. A rare case for sure
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As I agree it is best used as a last resort, I have to say that when I do intervene the food is very soft and very soupy, very messy but much less risk that he will choke as the liguid triggers a reflux to swallow. And believe me if he wasn't so skinny and drawing attention to the fact from folks much more savy then me, I would have never thought to do it.
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Ah, and "should" you even stuff a show dog?
I vote NO.



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Thank you so much for your advice, I'm going to try everything that you've suggested.
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I wish I had found this thread $500.00 ago. Cinnia just quite eating her raw and only nibbling on her kibble. At 11 months old 25 inches tall and 52 pound she is very slim and every ounce counts. I have had her at the vet getting test after test trying to find out " WHATS WRONG WITH HER"! Tomorrow we start the tough love. Thanks for this thread
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I wish I had found this thread $500.00 ago. Cinnia just quite eating her raw and only nibbling on her kibble. At 11 months old 25 inches tall and 52 pound she is very slim and every ounce counts. I have had her at the vet getting test after test trying to find out " WHATS WRONG WITH HER"! Tomorrow we start the tough love. Thanks for this thread
she checks out ok medically, right?
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