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For those of you that Titer Test

I took Sabrina to the vet on Wednesday for her annual visit and instead of getting her vaccinated for DHPP, I opted to do bloodwork for titer testing, liver and kidney function, cbc and thyroid.

I was very happy to hear from my vet today that all of her bloodwork is normal. Hopefully she will be having her first echocardiogram next month.

My question is, for those of you that titer test your dogs, generaly how long do you find that they have the immunities present?
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Razzle hasn't been boostered for distemper/parvo since she was about 16 months old, she'll be 6 in May.



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I'm actually just about to do the same thing with my Dobe.
I don't want to get him any vaccinations if he doesn't need them.
If you don't mind me asking - how much did they charge you?

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At three years old my two are still good.
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I'm actually just about to do the same thing with my Dobe.
I don't want to get him any vaccinations if he doesn't need them.
If you don't mind me asking - how much did they charge you?
I think it's around $80 at my vet to do titer testing for distemper and parvo.



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Does the titer cover the rest of the vaccinations as well or only the ones your request?

I'm looking for parvo/distemper and bordetella.

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Does the titer cover the rest of the vaccinations as well or only the ones your request?

I'm looking for parvo/distemper and bordetella.
The only titer tests made available to me are parvo and distemper.

There is a rabies titer test, but not all states accept it in place of rabies vax, because rabies is a public health issue. I know my state doesn't.

I don't know if there's a titer test available for bordetella or not. I doubt it, because there are so many different strains of bordetella. Even if there were such a titer test, I doubt I'd use it. I just wouldn't vaccinate for it if I had no plans to board my dog in a boarding kennel. That's what I did for years before I started traveling and needed to board my dogs. Bordetella just can't be considered a high risk disease like parvo or distemper, IMO.




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Razzle hasn't been boostered for distemper/parvo since she was about 16 months old, she'll be 6 in May.
Wow! That's impressive! And I was thinking I'd be satifsied to get 3 years between vaccines.

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I'm actually just about to do the same thing with my Dobe.
I don't want to get him any vaccinations if he doesn't need them.
If you don't mind me asking - how much did they charge you?
I paid $129. for distemper/parvo titer testing vs. $29. for the vaccine. The liver/kidney function was $10. more when included with the heartworm test and the bordatella was $32. The thyroid panel was $132.

We live in a very high cost of living area.
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Petey hasn't had any shots since puppy shots, and he has plenty of protection.

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I only vac for rabies- every 3 years as required by state law. I was reading in one of my dog health books and the author (also a vet) was talking about vacs. She said, humans receive vacs (typically) only once in their lifetime; measles, mumps, rubella vac. Why is it that we want animals to be vac'd every year?

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I only vac for rabies- every 3 years as required by state law. I was reading in one of my dog health books and the author (also a vet) was talking about vacs. She said, humans receive vacs (typically) only once in their lifetime; measles, mumps, rubella vac. Why is it that we want animals to be vac'd every year?

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Yes it is! I often wonder this too.

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Petey hasn't had any shots since puppy shots, and he has plenty of protection.
Carol, what about rabies? My vet told me that rabies is required by NYS every 3 years so I figured I'd have to go along with that. But she won't be due for another one until 2012.
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My vet told me that rabies is required by NYS every 3 years so I figured I'd have to go along with that. But she won't be due for another one until 2012.
The stakes are just too high to NOT follow state laws about rabies vax. If a bite occurs and your dog isn't current on rabies, there's a good chance the dog will be pts and its brain harvested for testing.



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The stakes are just too high to NOT follow state laws about rabies vax. If a bite occurs and your dog isn't current on rabies, there's a good chance the dog will be pts and its brain harvested for testing.
Wyo is an every two years. And I believe if there is an incident of a dog bite and they are not vaccinated, it is an automatic put to sleep.
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I called 3 vets in my area just last week cause I needed to take Deezil in for his distemper/parvo shot, and they don't do the titer test. I think we are a little behind up here in Maine. Every time I leave the vets I am upset, I took Pandora to the vet a few weeks back and all I wanted was the distemper/parvo and rabies shot. They made me feel like I was the worst pet owner in the world because I would not get the shots they recommended. I do believe in the distemper shot, when I was a teenager my pup came down with distemper, we almost lost her, the vet saved her but it was very costly.

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O" I forgot Deezil had the bordatella shot last year,and he still came down with it.

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Sandria, you totally need a new vet! Maine is not the ends of the earth... you must have access to someone with whom you can have a better relationship. Just out of curiosity, were the vets you called chains like Banfield and VCA?
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O" I forgot Deezil had the bordatella shot last year,and he still came down with it.
That's because there are many, many different strains of bordetella, the vaccine only covers a few of them.



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Sandria, you totally need a new vet! Maine is not the ends of the earth... you must have access to someone with whom you can have a better relationship. Just out of curiosity, were the vets you called chains like Banfield and VCA?

mmctaq I agree with you 100%, I do need a new vet. There is a vet about 45 mins. from me that I like alot, they are more costly but keep up on the training. I took Deezil there to get castration, one Dewclaw Removal, shots. They did a great job except when they stitched up the foot where the Dewclaw was. The vet wiped stitched the foot, they were far apart and no way was this going to hold on a dog that has energy.( I know that the dog must stay came as much as possible for at least two weeks.) But the stitches did not stay like I pro-dicked, so bake under anesthesia he went again to restitch the foot. This time the stitches was nice and tight I had a different vet do the stitchings.Now I have to keep Deezil quite for two more weeks , A month of quite time for a Doberman is alot. I really do think that there is some nice vets there. I just wish that they had stitched it right the first time. I get upset if my dog has to go under twice for the same thing. Am I wrong? should I give them another chance? I be leave that Pet Co does the Banfield program, but not up here in Maine that I am aware of, and no VCA in Maine.

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That's because there are many, many different strains of bordetella, the vaccine only covers a few of them.

Murreydobe, Yes you are right there is many different strains of it. I had to get the shot because I was bording Deezil for 4 days. Every summer I get on my Iron horse and ride and ride hard.

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Murreydobe, Yes you are right there is many different strains of it. I had to get the shot because I was bording Deezil for 4 days.
Yeah, that's the ONLY reason I ever give any of my dogs bordetella-because no boarding kennel will take them without it. So they get it once a year, right before we go to Europe.



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Rex will be six in April and has had the titer's annually since his last shot when he was 14 months and hasn't needed anything other than the required by law rabies shot. So I think the titer's are a very good idea!

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Every time I ask my Vet to do the Titer's testing he always tells me that it depends of the lab that the results are sent to and that particular lab's standards. I am beginning to think that he just wants the $ for the vacs. What are your ideas?
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If they are sending the blood to one of the major professional vet labs, not sure why they said it wouldn't be accurate...


"Veterinary laboratories offer traditional vaccine titer testing by looking at a blood sample from a dog and identifying a specific level of actual immunity in the dog. Reputable laboratories use commonly accepted immunological techniques that have been validated against original test techniques and found to be accurate. Be certain your veterinarian sends blood samples to a major professional veterinary laboratory such as Antech Diagnostics (www.antechdiagnostics.com), Idexx Laboratories (www.idexx.com), Vita-Tech Laboratories (www.vita-tech.com), or one of the major university veterinary laboratories, including Cornell, Colorado State, Michigan State, Tufts, and Texas A&M. In early spring 2002, Synbiotics Corporation, a San Diego-based manufacturer of diagnostic materials and instrumentation for the veterinary market, rolled out an innovative tool that should make titer testing even more readily available and affordable. TiterCHEKTM is the first in-office titer test licensed by the USDA for use in veterinary clinics. TiterCHEKTM tests titers for canine parvovirus and canine distemper virus, registering the degree of strength of the immune response in varying color shades. If the test results denote a weak immune response level, blood samples can be sent to a veterinary laboratory for more comprehensive testing. Dr. Dodds estimates that more than 95 percent of in-office tests will indicate a satisfactory immune response present in a dog that has received its puppy vaccinations and one-year boosters, so follow-up is rarely required. Expect to pay your veterinarian from $40 to $100 for CDV and CPV titer testing from a laboratory, and slightly less for an in-office test, for which your veterinarian must purchase the TiterCHEKTM test kit"

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Every time I ask my Vet to do the Titer's testing he always tells me that it depends of the lab that the results are sent to and that particular lab's standards. I am beginning to think that he just wants the $ for the vacs. What are your ideas?
I know my vet sends the blood drawn for titer testing to Antech. They're a highly respected lab, used widely from coast to coast.



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