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Last time I took Wiccabella to the vet I inquired about her weight, to me she looked ribby and her hip bones were protruding a little. She gets a ton of exercise (she runs FAST every minute she can) and I am still having a hard time keeping weight on her. She was eating 4 cups of TOTW and now she is eating 5. She has gained a couple pounds but I think she could gain about 3 more. What do you think about increasing her food even more? 5 cups seems like so much food. She weighed 61 at the vet and should probably weigh 65. While I was there the tech said her german shorthairs eat 8 cups a day!!!
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Go slow if you are going to increase the amount, very slow.

How are her stools?
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Her poop is good! Thanks for the reply.
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Not sure about the brand of food you are feeding. I have never used it. I feed and recommend Purina Pro Plan Salmon and Rice, my dogs are very active and keep a good weight. My Adult Males get about 4 to 4 1/2 cups a day now and are looking awesome!!! This brand seems to agree with a lot of Doberman, they have no digestive issues and put on weight easily.

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I use TOTW too and seem to have the same weight issues? My dobe is small, and prob a byb pup (she was a stray in KY) weighing in at almost 50lbs on a good day!?

I have seen that alot of you guys feed ProPlan. It seems to get low ratings on certain food sites and that is probably the reason I haven't taken a closer look.
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I had the same problem with Ripley. He was eating close to 7 cups of food a day (plus pasta and whatever other safe, higher calorie foods I had around) and was still too thin. Finally I ended up finding a food that works for him (Acana Sport & Agility -- a bit higher in calories than other foods), and now he looks really good and only has to eat 4 cups a day.



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I have never checked out ratings. My dogs rate their food for me!
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That is true! I think it is better to not even look at those sites sometimes - especially if you throw an OCD person like me in there. I could spend weeks researching the "perfect food" and I bet Kashi would just look at me, sniff it and walk away!
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Years ago I went to all our pet food retailers and got all their free samples of different dog foods.

I placed all in different piles for my dogs to 'check out', they all chose the Pro Plan.

I 'listen' to my dogs!
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I have been using Taste of the Wild because I like grain free dog food and no corn or soy. For the most part, it seems that dogs do well on it. She has a BIG need to run so when she is on an off leash hike or at the cemetery off leash she runs hard for an hour. Maybe I'll try the Pro Plan or Arcania. I'll look into them!
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I've said this on other posts, but I think it really helped my Dobe a lot. I thought he was too skinny at 4 months. I added Digest-All Plus to his diet, and he started to put on weight. It helped him utilize his food more. Another good brand is Prozyme. I swear by the stuff. Also, how old is your dog? Mine is 6 and a half months, and he weighs about 60 pounds. I feed him 6 cups of Solid Gold Hunchen Flocken food a day. If I feed him any less, he looks too thin. For your dog's weight, I don't think you are feeding too much. My neighbor uses TOTW, and it works well for his dog. I tried transitioning it very slowly into my dog's diet to see how that food was, and TOTW gave him terrible runs. I went back to Solid Gold. It all depends on the dog.
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Thanks everyone.

Vader66, she is 3 and thanks for the suggestions!
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Uh, yeah, but dog's love horse and cat poop too.


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TOTW gave Sora runs too, but it's still a good food, just not for her.

Did you ask the vet tech what kind of food she feeds 8 cups of? You really have to take into consideration what the metabolizable energy is in the food, not just how much of it you feed. Kibble should be measure by weight, not cup. A cup of kibble made with high quality ingredients can have loads more available calories and nutrition than a food with poor quality ingredients.

So, for instance, you might have to feed 2 cups of a poor quality food to get the same benefits in one cup of a premium food. The first will fill them up, but the dog can’t digest and use some of those calories and nutrients - it just goes right through their system.


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wow 4 cups a day 5, cus a day and 8 cups a day, thats lots of food
Apollo ( 89-90lbs) which is 20 month old gets 2cups a day, sometimes 2.5, Logan my Gsd (76Lbs), 1.5 - 2 cups. Aesa( around 45lbs) is 5 month and gets 3 cups a day.
And not one has weight problems. why so many cups ???
On eh e oo,Aesa gets diamond puppy food, the regular one, not large breed or giant breed and the boys get Eukanuba.

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Shanoa is eating less than 2 cups a day of Orijen. There seems to be a huge disparity in how much food you have to feed to get the same results from different food manufacturers. We've had really good success with Orijen, and they also make Acana. I actually found it cheaper to feed Orijen than something like TOTW because I have to feed so much less of it. And Shanoa absolutely loves her food.

You could also try adding some stuff to her food if you like how she's doing on TOTW and don't want to switch brands. I add different things to Shanoa's kibble a few times a week (when I do it I have to reduce her kibble, but if you want to add weight you won't need to do that). We variously add an egg, cottage cheese, yogurt, sardines, etc. You might try that to see if she'll put on some more weight.

I would never personally feed something that would require 8 cups a day. That's a lot more food volume than the size of a dog's stomach. Just like a person, there's only so much food you can stuff in there at once. I'm already paranoid about bloat - I don't want to stuff her too full.
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When something works, don't try to 'fix' it. The only change I have made recently is to cut back on the amount I feed my guys, they are all seniors now and do not run amock near as much as they used too. I don't either, which is part of why they don't too.

Biggest issue I see regularly IS overfeeding. Not just of kibble, but supplements too. So many owners come on DT asking for help with their dogs digestive issues.
Every dogs consumption and utilization of their food will be different!

Some dogs are couch potatoes, 'easy keepers', low thryoid, oldtimers, etc. so survive on less food.
Others just 'burn' it up!! From the time they arrive till the time they go.

I will continue to do what I am doing because.................my guys are all Happy, Healthy and Hearty!!!!

So if your dog is healthy but has loose stools, first thing I would suggest, is cut back on the amount you are feeding.

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Uh, yeah, but dog's love horse and cat poop too.
LOL....deer poop and dead voles. Moj even brought in a road kill snake (YIKES!! I thought it was a stick and picked it up....shiver!)

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Forgot to ask - did your vet agree that she's underweight?
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