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Folliculitis

My girl has had itchiness for most of her 6 yrs, with skin staph infections early on. Accupuncture and Chinese herbs sorted it out for a while and she hasn't been on steroids or antibiotics for a for a couple of years. On Apoquel for last 18 months which worked like a miracle up until a couple of months ago.

She had a punch biopsy done 3 yrs ago, which came back with a diagnosis of folicular disease OR CDA. She's black and rust.

Two years ago thyroid test came back low normal.

My holistic vet says there is a type of folicular dysplasia that occurs in red/rust and black/rust Dobes. I'd never heard that.

Anyone have thoughts or experience with this??
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Hey CR Dobe,

I dog sat for a nice bitch owned by a college professor who took student on trips during the summer (for credit deals) And her bitch had been dx'd with follicular dysplasia (a black bitch)so I asked around some of the vets who used to drop in and so short seminars on this and that--a couple of vet dermatologist/allergists about that and generally the opinion was that there were vets who were big fans of otherwise unexplained follicular problems which always ended up with an itchy dog who had dandruff and things like that--but that particular vet said he felt the jury was still out on it.

That particular summer I had moved into a house that had a big graveled area that the owners used to park work trucks in. I asked them to fence it and add new gravel and they did and the bitch spent an entire summer there with nary an itch.

I told her owner about it and shortly after that she called me to tell me that they had done some work on the yard of the house she'd moved into just before leaving for the summer seminar and when they finished the work they just left it bare dirt.

And her bitch didn't itch there. She went to a different vet to get another opinion because that bitch had a five year history of skin issues with scratching and chewing so bad that she made holes in her skin and bled. She had been treated with virtually everything (except apolquel because it wasn't on the market yet) and nothing worked.

So the new dermatologist looked the bitch over and asked a lot of questions and said that she might want to put in a graveled dog pen for her and not let her out on grass because what she was descibing was a classic grass allergy which was generally contact only.

And because bermuda grass is one of the big offender of being the cause of a grass allergies I used to see a fair number of dogs (not just Dobes) with the tell tale patchy skin of an allergy dog. One of my friend had a bitch whose reaction to bermuda grass was so bad he had put in a three run outside kennel with wide concrete pad around the whole exterior. It was a three run kennel and for all of her life he carried that bitch out to the middle run and carried her back in the house . They had a huge lot that was ALL bermuda grass.

The other theory that I heard that made me laugh was from a dermatolgist/naturalist who said it was because dogs with symptoms like that had one or both parent who were dilutes (fawn or blue) but I knew what the gene test was for several of the dogs he had dx and the dilution factory being the cause of the follicular dysplasia.

For what it's worth. Gotta go feed the animals--the cats are about the riot--the dog is much more patient.

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Thanks, interesting info.
Very little grass on my property, mostly all coffee and some weeds.
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