Waking up agressive - Doberman Forum : Doberman Breed Dog Forums
Doberman Health If it has to do with your dog and its health post here.

 2Likes
  • 1 Post By Cressrb
  • 1 Post By falnfenix
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 06-16-2020, 11:40 AM Thread Starter
Lil Pup
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 6
Location: Gibsons BC, Canada
Dogs Name: Echo and Ohce
Dogs Age: 3.5 & 4.5
Gallery Pics: 1
Visit EchoEchoEcho's Gallery
Thanks: 0
Thanked 20 Times in 5 Posts
Images: 1
   
Click here to find out how EchoEchoEcho became a supporter
Exclamation Waking up agressive

Our 3.5 year old girl Ohce, came to us when she was 6 months old. She was owned by the breeders adult daughter and was returned to the breeder. Our other girl Echo came from the same breeder.
Ohce is the sweetest most adorable girl, but has always been anxious and fearful around new situations. Recently we have had a few disturbing situations with her. The girls snuggle with us in bed when we watch tv at night and come up again in the morning for snuggles. They sleep in the same room as we do, each has their own bed. Over the last week we have had about 3 or 4 instances of Ohce in the bed, she starts to REM sleep twitching etc and if she is touched she has woken up biting. Scary business 2 dobermans fighting in your bed. After the first incidence we have been putting a soft silicone muzzle on Ohce if they are going to be in the bed with us, so the last few instances have been harmless but still disturbing. We don't want to punish her, we know she doesn't realize what she is doing. Has anyone else ever had any experience with this? We took her to the vet and awaiting various tests to see if there is an underlying reason for this.
EchoEchoEcho is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to EchoEchoEcho For This Useful Post:
ECIN (06-17-2020)
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old 06-16-2020, 11:57 AM
Big Pup
 
Join Date: May 2020
Posts: 26
Location: Greater NYC Metropolitan Area
Dogs Name: Hudson (Black & Rust) Cooper (Red & Rust)
Dogs Age: 10/23/2016
Gallery Pics: 0
Visit DobieGang's Gallery
Thanks: 10
Thanked 94 Times in 24 Posts
         
Waking up agressive

I have an aggressive red and rust (Cooper) that will growl and sometimes want to bite if disturbed while hes sleeping. Hes grown out of it more and more but his brother (Hudson) likes to come in and out of the bed a lot throughout the night and it bugs Cooper. He doesnt mean to be aggressive but for Cooper, once hes in bed and lights are out, its bed time.

He cant stand when myself or Hudson move around or get up too much and accidentally bump him while hes asleep. He snapped at me and hudson before. twice at me but I had to unfortunately discipline him those two times. He never snapped again but now, he just growls under his breath to make everyone aware that he is a cranky pants and we are annoying him. Lol

side note....(cooper happens to have hypothyroidism. Not sure if its related to the night time/sleep aggression. )

I never look for the monster under my bed because hes in the bed sleeping with me every night. Lol

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

Last edited by DobieGang; 06-16-2020 at 12:01 PM.
DobieGang is offline  
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to DobieGang For This Useful Post:
dobebug (06-16-2020), ECIN (06-17-2020), melbrod (06-16-2020)
post #3 of 8 (permalink) Old 06-16-2020, 12:42 PM
Alpha
 
Cressrb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 3,278
Location: Utah
Dogs Name: Irongates East of the Sunrise, aka 'Jada' CGC, WAC, GrCh. Cha-Rish Mine To Imagine, WAC
Titles: CGC, CH. WAC GCH
Dogs Age: DOB:5/21/12, 1/26/15
Gallery Pics: 0
Visit Cressrb's Gallery
Thanks: 12,335
Thanked 8,929 Times in 2,665 Posts
                     
Click here to find out how Cressrb became a supporter
I don't allow my dogs on the bed at night, but sometimes in the middle of the day when taking a short nap, they can join me, but it is a privilege and they know that. Any jealousy or guarding or growling and they lose that privilege. They are very smart and they do know why they lost their privilege. If enough time has elapsed I may let them have one more chance, but if a rule is broken, they don't get another chance. Mean me.
dobebug likes this.

"Lots of people talk to animals...Not very many listen, though...That's the problem. " ~ The Tao of Pooh
Cressrb is online now  
The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to Cressrb For This Useful Post:
4x4bike ped (06-16-2020), Beaumont67 (06-17-2020), ECIN (06-17-2020), falnfenix (06-16-2020), melbrod (06-16-2020), sandy2233 (06-16-2020), VZ-Doberman (06-16-2020)
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 8 (permalink) Old 06-16-2020, 01:11 PM Thread Starter
Lil Pup
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 6
Location: Gibsons BC, Canada
Dogs Name: Echo and Ohce
Dogs Age: 3.5 & 4.5
Gallery Pics: 1
Visit EchoEchoEcho's Gallery
Thanks: 0
Thanked 20 Times in 5 Posts
Images: 1
   
Click here to find out how EchoEchoEcho became a supporter
Thanks for the reply...interestingly enough hyperthyroidism is one of the tests we requested the vet do. I had a male Dobie years ago and he developed hyperthyroidism around the age of 3 and I did read that it can cause aggression. Hopefully we can get this resolved, I feel bad putting the muzzle on her and do my best to let her know she is still a good girl!
EchoEchoEcho is offline  
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to EchoEchoEcho For This Useful Post:
ECIN (06-16-2020), melbrod (06-16-2020)
post #5 of 8 (permalink) Old 06-16-2020, 01:27 PM
ಠ_ಠ
 
falnfenix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 6,486
Location: Baltimore
Dogs Name: Ripley; R.I.P. Deckard
Titles: WAC
Dogs Age: DOB 7/8/13
Gallery Pics: 0
Visit falnfenix's Gallery
Thanks: 17,258
Thanked 14,277 Times in 4,708 Posts
                     
Ask for a full thyroid panel, not just T3.
ECIN likes this.

“I am the sea witch. I am the tide you fear and the turning you can't deny. I am the sound of the waves running over your bones on the beach, little man, and I am not amused at finding you on my doorstep.”
- the Luidaeg, Chimes at Midnight

DPCA Chapter Club: http://www.mbdpc.net/
Regional rescue: http://www.dobe.net/
falnfenix is offline  
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to falnfenix For This Useful Post:
Cressrb (06-16-2020), greenkouki (06-16-2020), Gretchen_Red (06-17-2020), melbrod (06-16-2020), VZ-Doberman (06-16-2020)
post #6 of 8 (permalink) Old 06-16-2020, 05:18 PM
Super Moderator
 
greenkouki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 15,224
Location: SC

Gallery Pics: 77
Visit greenkouki's Gallery
Thanks: 20,248
Thanked 31,659 Times in 10,179 Posts
Images: 77
                     
Click here to find out how greenkouki became a supporter
Quote:
Originally Posted by DobieGang View Post
I have an aggressive red and rust (Cooper) that will growl and sometimes want to bite if disturbed while hes sleeping. Hes grown out of it more and more but his brother (Hudson) likes to come in and out of the bed a lot throughout the night and it bugs Cooper. He doesnt mean to be aggressive but for Cooper, once hes in bed and lights are out, its bed time.

He cant stand when myself or Hudson move around or get up too much and accidentally bump him while hes asleep. He snapped at me and hudson before. twice at me but I had to unfortunately discipline him those two times. He never snapped again but now, he just growls under his breath to make everyone aware that he is a cranky pants and we are annoying him. Lol

side note....(cooper happens to have hypothyroidism. Not sure if its related to the night time/sleep aggression. )

I never look for the monster under my bed because hes in the bed sleeping with me every night. Lol

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Just my opinion but that's a dog I would be throwing off the bed really quick! I wouldn't tolerate that behavior with two males.
greenkouki is online now  
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to greenkouki For This Useful Post:
ECIN (06-17-2020), falnfenix (06-17-2020), VZ-Doberman (06-16-2020)
post #7 of 8 (permalink) Old 06-16-2020, 06:48 PM
Super Moderator
 
MeadowCat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 20,643
Location: MN
Dogs Name: Richter; Sypha; RIP Shanoa & Simon
Titles: Richter: CAA L1V NW1 L1I L1E L1C NW2 L2V ACT1 RATI WAC; Sypha: NW1 NW2 L1C L1V L1E RATI SOG WAC
Dogs Age: d.o.b. 7/13/2012; d.o.b. 12/6/2015
Gallery Pics: 1
Visit MeadowCat's Gallery
Thanks: 49,343
Thanked 63,243 Times in 16,921 Posts
Images: 1
                     
Click here to find out how MeadowCat became a supporter
Quote:
Originally Posted by EchoEchoEcho View Post
Our 3.5 year old girl Ohce, came to us when she was 6 months old. She was owned by the breeders adult daughter and was returned to the breeder. Our other girl Echo came from the same breeder.
Ohce is the sweetest most adorable girl, but has always been anxious and fearful around new situations. Recently we have had a few disturbing situations with her. The girls snuggle with us in bed when we watch tv at night and come up again in the morning for snuggles. They sleep in the same room as we do, each has their own bed. Over the last week we have had about 3 or 4 instances of Ohce in the bed, she starts to REM sleep twitching etc and if she is touched she has woken up biting. Scary business 2 dobermans fighting in your bed. After the first incidence we have been putting a soft silicone muzzle on Ohce if they are going to be in the bed with us, so the last few instances have been harmless but still disturbing. We don't want to punish her, we know she doesn't realize what she is doing. Has anyone else ever had any experience with this? We took her to the vet and awaiting various tests to see if there is an underlying reason for this.
I'd do two things - one, full vet work up with blood panel, etc. So I'm glad you're doing that.

Second, I wouldn't have her in the bed anymore. Even if it's not intentional, you could end up with a bad situation. I'd definitely not have her in the bed while you're sleeping, and I'd probably work on training her to do her sleeping in a crate, or on a particular "bed" where she's left alone. It would really be to her benefit, as well as the other dog and your benefit, if she wasn't disturbed while sleeping. This could be a crate, an elevated cot like a Kuranda bed, etc. I'd be working on making sure that she's not disturbed when she's on it, so that she learns that sleeping there means she's not going to be bothered.


DSC_0133
by Shanoa Delta, on Flickr

Richter & Sypha
Glengate's Mountain Fortress CAA ORT L1E L1C NW2 L2V L2I ACT1 RATI SOG WAC
& Sirai's Golden Masquerade ORT L1V L1E L2C L2I NW2 RATI SOG DOG TKN WAC
“You cannot get through a single day without having an impact on the world around you.
What you do makes a difference, and you have to decide what kind of difference you want to make.”
― Jane Goodall
MeadowCat is offline  
The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to MeadowCat For This Useful Post:
brw1982 (06-16-2020), Cressrb (06-16-2020), ECIN (06-17-2020), melbrod (06-16-2020), Rosemary (06-17-2020), spocksdad (06-17-2020)
post #8 of 8 (permalink) Old 06-16-2020, 11:52 PM
sandy2233
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,418
Location: Wyoming
Dogs Name: SE
Titles: CGC, BN, PCD, CD, UDC-CD, WAE, BH
Dogs Age: March 12, 2015
Gallery Pics: 0
Visit sandy2233's Gallery
Thanks: 4,266
Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,634 Posts
                     
Click here to find out how sandy2233 became a supporter
Not something I would have any tolerance for. Dog would be off the bed in a New York minute. Go sleep on the couch, your bed, the floor, whatever. But it is MY bed and MY rules. And aggression is not to be tolerated.
sandy2233 is offline  
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to sandy2233 For This Useful Post:
Beaumont67 (06-17-2020), ECIN (06-17-2020), VZ-Doberman (06-17-2020)
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Doberman Forum : Doberman Breed Dog Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome